2021-07-11: Reds (Castillo) at Brewers (Woodruff) [Brewers lose, 3-1 -- Crew hits a speed bump heading into the All Star Break]

[JET15]

"He isn't far off from being elite again."

 

That wild swing at a ball waaay off the plate would differ

[82brewcrew82]

The difference in lineups between these teams is pretty extreme. If Cincy gets good pitching they can easily win the division.

I don't think it's all that extreme with Wong in the lineup. I'd give the Reds the edge but not by a ton.

[brewers888]

Yelich's walk rate is unsustainable unless he starts hitting.

[Jopal78]

The difference in lineups between these teams is pretty extreme. If Cincy gets good pitching they can easily win the division.

I don't think it's all that extreme with Wong in the lineup. I'd give the Reds the edge but not by a ton.

 

If the Reds could manage to land Kimbrel, and with Atone, Sims, Gray, Moustakas and Senzel coming back they’d have to be the favorites based on overall talent.

[titletownking]

Anyone who has seen Yelich’s at bats, including Yelich himself, knows that he isn’t close to being elite. The raw numbers that you’re citing don’t capture the strikeouts and weak contact. Maybe he can regain the form he had in early 2018 before he exploded, but he isn’t close to that now.

 

 

 

AMEN.

[brewers888]

The difference in lineups between these teams is pretty extreme. If Cincy gets good pitching they can easily win the division.

I don't think it's all that extreme with Wong in the lineup. I'd give the Reds the edge but not by a ton.

 

I think its far bigger difference than that.

[82brewcrew82]

The difference in lineups between these teams is pretty extreme. If Cincy gets good pitching they can easily win the division.

I don't think it's all that extreme with Wong in the lineup. I'd give the Reds the edge but not by a ton.

 

If the Reds could manage to land Kimbrel, and with Atone, Sims, Gray, Moustakas and Senzel coming back they’d have to be the favorites based on overall talent.

I'd agree with that but the Brewers will make moves to. I just don't think it's an extreme difference.

[Oxy]

He isn't far off from being elite again.

 

Anyone who has seen Yelich’s at bats, including Yelich himself, knows that he isn’t close to being elite. The raw numbers that you’re citing don’t capture the strikeouts and weak contact. Maybe he can regain the form he had in early 2018 before he exploded, but he isn’t close to that now.

 

Half right. He does K way too much. He is in the 92nd percentile of hard hit% so weak contact really isn't a problem.

 

And of course Yelich should be better and says he should be better as his potential is the best hitter in the league. That doesn't mean he should be benched for underperforming compared to that lofty potential. Right now he is merely above average.

[titletownking]

And the Brewers go out with a whimper. Fire Haines and just promote the damn assistant at this point. A new voice definitely cannot hurt as this team is already bottom 5 in literally every major offensive category.

[brewers888]

He isn't far off from being elite again.

 

Anyone who has seen Yelich’s at bats, including Yelich himself, knows that he isn’t close to being elite. The raw numbers that you’re citing don’t capture the strikeouts and weak contact. Maybe he can regain the form he had in early 2018 before he exploded, but he isn’t close to that now.

 

Half right. He does K way too much and chases bad pitches way too much (oddly, since he also BBs SO much). He is in the 92nd percentile of hard hit% so weak contact really isn't a problem.

 

And of course Yelich should be better and says he should be better as his potential is the best hitter in the league. That doesn't mean he should be benched for underperforming compared to that lofty potential. Right now he is merely above average.

 

The walk rate is all Yelich has going for him and its probably not sustainable unless he starts hitting.

[Jopal78]

And the Brewers go out with a whimper. Fire Haines and just promote the damn assistant at this point. A new voice definitely cannot hurt as this team is already bottom 5 in literally every major offensive category.

 

What are they going to do have the new guy change his uniform every inning and bat 9 times a game? Coaches coach, but the players are the ones swinging the bat and have played thousands of games before getting to the major leagues. Short of swinging for them what’s a hitting coach going to improve?

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Reds should have an easier schedule down the stretch. Just for some perspective, though, Five Thirty Eight has the Crew at 75% to win division. Reds at 16.

 

That projection takes rosters into account, I believe, though obviously not any deadline adds. Today will impact it some too, of course.

 

In my baseball experience, I'm always most nervous at like a 4-8 game lead. Feels big enough that you have a ton of cushion, but it's still far from certain. Feels like there's a lot to lose, I guess, and to me that goes a long way into me underrating the Brewers chances...

[titletownking]

And the Brewers go out with a whimper. Fire Haines and just promote the damn assistant at this point. A new voice definitely cannot hurt as this team is already bottom 5 in literally every major offensive category.

 

What are they going to do have the new guy change his uniform every inning and bat 9 times a game? Coaches coach, but the players are the ones swinging the bat and have played thousands of games before getting to the major leagues. Short of swinging for them what’s a hitting coach going to improve?

 

Do you release all the players or fire the coach? answer me that.

[brewers888]

And the Brewers go out with a whimper. Fire Haines and just promote the damn assistant at this point. A new voice definitely cannot hurt as this team is already bottom 5 in literally every major offensive category.

 

What are they going to do have the new guy change his uniform every inning and bat 9 times a game? Coaches coach, but the players are the ones swinging the bat and have played thousands of games before getting to the major leagues. Short of swinging for them what’s a hitting coach going to improve?

 

The Brewers offense has underachieved every year with Haines as the hitting coach.

[adambr2]

We need Woodruff's best today badly and it looks like we're going to get his worst.

 

Which could still be enough, but only if we get some offense.

[brewers888]

Awful pitch to Castillo.

[Simba2020]

I'd personally put the division race at 50/50 and that's only because we are currently ahead by 5. I'd still pick Cincinnati to win it however.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Just an observation, but by the way so many here fawn over the Reds, you'd think this is a Reds fan site. It isn't new, either. Been that way for years.

[roadcrew3]

Just an observation, but by the way so many here fawn over the Reds, you'd think this is a Reds fan site. It isn't new, either. Been that way for years.

 

Yeah...Cincy is a lot better within these threads then they are on paper or in person.

 

Winning the division isn't easy, maybe they are providing a good reality check to fans that this team isn't going to run away with the division, but man do people act like they are some world beaters while forgetting that we have a pretty good squad over here too

[82brewcrew82]

Same pitch to Peterson was a ball.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Just an observation, but by the way so many here fawn over the Reds, you'd think this is a Reds fan site. It isn't new, either. Been that way for years.

 

Yeah, and probably partially a function of them winning 5 of the last 6 against the Crew. I think they have a more balanced roster. Is it better? Probably depends on how you feel about Wong and Taylor and Cain. And is Yelich this guy this year? Or something with a bit more SLG than he's shown so far.

[pacopete4]

Just an observation, but by the way so many here fawn over the Reds, you'd think this is a Reds fan site. It isn't new, either. Been that way for years.

 

It’s a good observation. It’s weird to say the least.

[trwi7]

Jace Peterson might be a better hitter than the guy we gave almost $200 million.

[82brewcrew82]

Just an observation, but by the way so many here fawn over the Reds, you'd think this is a Reds fan site. It isn't new, either. Been that way for years.

 

Yeah...Cincy is a lot better within these threads then they are on paper or in person.

 

Winning the division isn't easy, maybe they are providing a good reality check to fans that this team isn't going to run away with the division, but man do people act like they are some world beaters while forgetting that we have a pretty good squad over here too

I think the Reds are slightly better. Our rotation is better but not by much. Their lineup is better but not by much. Our pen and defense are probably better. I'm not fawning over them, but it seems pretty clear to me.

[Oxy]

Just an observation, but by the way so many here fawn over the Reds, you'd think this is a Reds fan site. It isn't new, either. Been that way for years.

 

Yeah, and probably partially a function of them winning 5 of the last 6 against the Crew. I think they have a more balanced roster. Is it better? Probably depends on how you feel about Wong and Taylor and Cain. And is Yelich this guy this year? Or something with a bit more SLG than he's shown so far.

 

The Reds bullpen melts down more often than this board...if this fanbase had to follow that it would constantly wonder why it couldn't come up with a decent reliever or two like the Brewers who seem to have no-name relievers come out of their ears and dominate year after year after year...