2021 NBA Finals: Milwaukee Bucks vs Phoenix Suns BUCKS WIN THE TITLE!!!!

[FVBrewerFan]

This series has been all about a team that has learned to win these big games, and a team/star that is new on the scene.

[KeithStone53151]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRdCztJHLHh/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

Let me know if this link worked. This is hilarious

[young guns]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRdCztJHLHh/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

Let me know if this link worked. This is hilarious

That is good lol.

[sveumrules]

Best day in Milwaukee Sports history…until Tuesday.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Remember that one time booker flexed at giannis like a punk and then lost the game...?

 

 

way back on july 17th 2021. I remember. I bet Giannis remembers too.

[adamb100]

https://i.imgur.com/wCuBn8a.gifv

[DuWayne Steurer]

that dude is meme central right now. in all the worst ways.

[homer]

that dude is meme central right now. in all the worst ways.

 

He and the post-apocalyptic Guy Fieri made quite the pair.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Beat the Heat and exorcise the demons from last year - check

Beat the Nets and get back to the Conf finals - check

Take care of business with the Hawks and WIN the conf finals - check

 

Win game 5 and at bare minimum guarantee a game 7, with a chance to win the clincher at home - CHECK

 

I think I'm gonna say something unpopular here, but here it goes. Bud has been adequate in the finals. There, I said it. Our starters have been playing 40+ minutes. He's been making defensive adjustments (hounding Chris Paul full court, is a big one, the last 3 games). Getting Lopez out of the game when Phoenix is trying to abuse the matchups and play small ball to facilitate scoring. He's actually *coaching*

 

I don't think he's been fantastic, by any means. I think he's doing the obvious things that most good, or even average coaches do in the playoffs... but these are things he didn't do in the previous years and a big part of the reason the Raptors trounced us and the Heat bounced us. There's no possible way he's insulated from the criticism that is out there that he's a good (even great) regular season coach, but fails to make adjustments to the way the game is played in the post season. Maybe he swallowed his pride or whatever it is that made him such a bad post season coach 2 1/2 seasons up til now and suddenly he's at least.......average? I don't know. It just seems like the things we've all been yelling about haven't been as huge a factor this series. They're trying to adjust, and not get annihiliated by matchups and the bench isn't playing a bunch of crucial minute when the other teams are running starters 42 - 44 minutes each.

 

I'm not advocating a 7 year extension for Bud..... but if there was ever a time for him to figure out how to suck at coaching a little less, this has been it.

[adambr2]

Beat the Heat and exorcise the demons from last year - check

Beat the Nets and get back to the Conf finals - check

Take care of business with the Hawks and WIN the conf finals - check

 

Win game 5 and at bare minimum guarantee a game 7, with a chance to win the clincher at home - CHECK

 

I think I'm gonna say something unpopular here, but here it goes. Bud has been adequate in the finals. There, I said it. Our starters have been playing 40+ minutes. He's been making defensive adjustments (hounding Chris Paul full court, is a big one, the last 3 games). Getting Lopez out of the game when Phoenix is trying to abuse the matchups and play small ball to facilitate scoring. He's actually *coaching*

 

I don't think he's been fantastic, by any means. I think he's doing the obvious things that most good, or even average coaches do in the playoffs... but these are things he didn't do in the previous years and a big part of the reason the Raptors trounced us and the Heat bounced us. There's no possible way he's insulated from the criticism that is out there that he's a good (even great) regular season coach, but fails to make adjustments to the way the game is played in the post season. Maybe he swallowed his pride or whatever it is that made him such a bad post season coach 2 1/2 seasons up til now and suddenly he's at least.......average? I don't know. It just seems like the things we've all been yelling about haven't been as huge a factor this series. They're trying to adjust, and not get annihiliated by matchups and the bench isn't playing a bunch of crucial minute when the other teams are running starters 42 - 44 minutes each.

 

I'm not advocating a 7 year extension for Bud..... but if there was ever a time for him to figure out how to suck at coaching a little less, this has been it.

 

Thank you so much for not saying "exercise the demons".

 

Budd has been fine, and having been a lightning rod of our criticisms, is deserving of our commendations. Agreed 100%. Well, 99%. I'll wait til the series is over before I say 100.

[nodakfan17]

Giannis is one game away from becoming the anti-LeBron.

 

He can prove a true alpha doesn’t need to move to asset rich teams every 4 years to win titles. He just needs big stones.

[adamb100]

Someone get Brandon Jennings to Game 6.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Giannis is one game away from becoming the anti-LeBron.

 

He can prove a true alpha doesn’t need to move to asset rich teams every 4 years to win titles. He just needs big stones.

 

He took the Cavs to the Finals five times. Once with Mo Williams and once with Isaiah Thomas as the 3rd option.

[MrTPlush]

Giannis is one game away from becoming the anti-LeBron.

 

He can prove a true alpha doesn’t need to move to asset rich teams every 4 years to win titles. He just needs big stones.

 

Sounds like a trendy take, but in reality I am not sure that really is how it should be viewed. Even if Giannis wins it, it was one time and the only time he (so far) has made the finals. If the asset rich team makes it 9/10 years, but the Giannis type team does it one year...does it really disprove moving to asset rich teams wins championships? The Bucks barely squirted by a banged up Nets team. Not taking anything away from this run, my point is just that it makes me skeptical teams like this can actually win more often. Until it is done more consistently it more feels like an exception to the rule versus some kind of ground breaking success for the peasant teams.

 

I hope the playing field can level out. I think the Bucks winning would be great for the NBA. I was excited for this finals because you have a Bucks team that isn't loaded with multiple world superstars and a Suns team that is a phenomenally young homegrown team. It feels like two teams that built incredible rosters without having a LeBron/Durant recruit help to make it what it is.

[nodakfan17]

Giannis is one game away from becoming the anti-LeBron.

 

He can prove a true alpha doesn’t need to move to asset rich teams every 4 years to win titles. He just needs big stones.

 

He took the Cavs to the Finals five times. Once with Mo Williams and once with Isaiah Thomas as the 3rd option.

I’ll give him credit for the first trip in 2007.

 

Do you think he comes back to the Cavs in 2014 if they hadn’t held the #1 pick in 3 out of 4 drafts? That gave him Kyrie Irving plus the ability to trade for a 3rd star. He left an aging team that was capped out for an asset rich team that allowed him to compete for more titles. He’s an opportunist (and that’s being polite).

[nodakfan17]

Giannis is one game away from becoming the anti-LeBron.

 

He can prove a true alpha doesn’t need to move to asset rich teams every 4 years to win titles. He just needs big stones.

 

Sounds like a trendy take, but in reality I am not sure that really is how it should be viewed. Even if Giannis wins it, it was one time and the only time he (so far) has made the finals. If the asset rich team makes it 9/10 years, but the Giannis type team does it one year...does it really disprove moving to asset rich teams wins championships?

You’re right. If Giannis & Co. close this one out, I think it will be an exception and not the norm. That just makes this all the more special.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I mean, give Lebron credit for what he accomplished early on with the Cavs (going to the finals and losing), but he definitely started chasing rings by going to teams loaded for bear.

 

Eh.... it is what it is. I just hope we get ours.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Why would he voluntarily play for Cleveland when they can't assemble a team? I'm not understanding why that's held against him. Nobody can win a title by themselves and Khris Middleton is leaps and bounds better than any player on Lebron's first Cavs Finals team and his last Cavs Finals team. So is Holiday for that matter.

 

LeBron didn't start pile-on teams either. The Lakers tried it years earlier and Celtics did it with KG and Allen. Just a weird take I don't know why we have to rope LeBron into our title run. It's not like LeBron jumped ship at the first opportunity, he lost in Cleveland for years and then went back when he could have played literally anywhere he wanted.

 

IMO LeBron would have been just stupid to sit in Cleveland and let superteams assemble elsewhere. He'd have 0 titles and hot takes about how he "can't get it done" would be plentiful.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

In the current dynamic of the NBA, those Heat teams were basically a normal contending team. I mean they lost the Finals twice. If we want to criticize something lame, to me that's easy and it's Durant going to GSW, possibly the lamest player move of my lifetime as an NBA fan. LeBron likely knew that team would crush them, they did, so I'd have done exactly what he did at the end of my deal.

[jjfanec]

Here is how good jrue has been on d! Booker or Paul score almost half as often when he guards them and has forced 18 turnovers! His defense is amazing

 

"Holiday has been phenomenal against Phoenix's megawatt backcourt of Chris Paul and Booker. According to Second Spectrum, in the 268 matchups in which Holiday is the primary defender on Booker or Paul, they're averaging just 22 points per 100 possessions. Against all other Bucks defenders, the duo is averaging 39.7 points per 100 possessions. Holiday has forced Paul into an uncharacteristic 10 turnovers and Booker into eight. "

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31836199/nba-finals-2021-one-win-away-jrue-holiday-milwaukee-bucks-staying-course

[pacopete4]

IMO LeBron would have been just stupid to sit in Cleveland and let superteams assemble elsewhere. He'd have 0 titles and hot takes about how he "can't get it done" would be plentiful.

 

This. This is exactly how he would be looked at. Lebron was/is in a no win situation with a lot of the scenarios in his career. Can he be an annoying dude? Yep. But really hard to start nitpicking his accomplishments.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Lebron is pulled into it because Giannis will (right or not) always get compared to the top tier players of this generation.

 

IF the Bucks win this title, the narrative becomes Giannis won it with the team that drafted him. Even if this is the only title he wins here... he didn't chase it. Is that fair to Lebron or Durant or other guys? Who knows. That's for each person to decide for themselves. But that'll be the narrative for a lot of Bucks fans.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Giannis chased it by sitting still, lol. They went out and got Holiday and Bogdanovic (whoops) for him and happened to have a premier shooter on the team already. You're right that's what the narrative is, but Giannis came nowhere close to doing this on his own. Those Cleveland teams were horrendous. Much, much worse than the Bucks of the last 3 years, except for the ones that had both Love and Kyrie. His early teams there were awful.

[homer]

I think Giannis is closer to Shaq than Lebron.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I would agree but almost a blend of the two. He won't be as dominant as peak Shaq was, but will likely have better longevity and is a bit more versatile.