2021 Miscellaneous College Football Thread

[PeaveyFury]

I don't know if parity will be affected. I imagine most of the money will go to star-level players, regardless of the school they attend.

 

This couldn't be more false. You'll have boosters that own businesses finding ways now, legally, to funnel money throughout the roster. It'll basically create a way to entice players to go to a specific place with $$$.

 

Teams with serious boosters with deep pockets will be the haves, and the rest of the NCAA will be the have-nots.

 

I guess we'll find out. You seem prematurely certain of this.

 

A very fair point.

[homer]

Collin Wilder taking advantage:

https://twitter.com/WilderCollin/status/1410598304577048579

[JimH5]

I do wonder if this will provide some incentive for college basketball players to stay in their programs vs jumping to the development league. I don't know enough about the financials, but CBB has been harmed by players leaving schools after a year. Maybe this new environment gives players the ability to make money while in CBB programs.

[madbad2000]

I'm curious to see how everything unfolds. We are getting reports of players signing endorsement deals already. I wonder how far it will go and if it gets watered down. You're about to see a huge influx of new "brands" and I'm curious how successful those will be. It's one thing to have the ability to take advantage of your NIL, it's completey another to make anything off of it. Just look at influencers on Social Media, everyone with a channel thinks they are an influencer but how much you actually monetize is something different. I'm most interested in watching how it affects recruiting. The Blue Bloods will still get theirs, but wait until you have something like the top QB in the nation having a final 3 of Alabama, Ohio State and UMass and selecting UMass based on a 7 figure endorsement deal with a local investment firm.

[MrTPlush]

You think Alabama or Ohio State doesn’t have a booster willing to pay 5x more, quite optimistic of you.

 

I predict the the top earner will not be from a booster or play college football…not even a man. I will put my bet on a woman creating an OnlyFans as the top earner.

[madbad2000]

You think Alabama or Ohio State doesn’t have a booster willing to pay 5x more, quite optimistic of you.

 

I predict the the top earner will not be from a booster or play college football…not even a man. I will put my bet on a woman creating an OnlyFans as the top earner.

 

The blue bloods absolutely do have boosters and many have been in the game a long time behind the scenes. Could they always outbid? I'm not so sure. There are a lot of people in this country who have ridiculous money and they are not all fans of SEC schools. If Warren Buffet decided he wanted to make Kansas Football competitive, he could be a final bidder on nearly anyone if money was the only factor. And not just one top player, every single one if he decided to do it. The current numbers that get tossed around on the down low are really not stupid money in the grand scheme of booster/endorsements because of the need to be quiet. Rumor was it was $200k for Cam to go to Auburn. If it was a an open bidding war, I suspect that dollar amount goes way up for him. And if that dollar amount goes way up, how many boosters are looking to spend 7 figures every year on recruits? Can alumni foundations now start crowd sourcing? Put together a pool of smaller donations to try to land bigger fish to their alma mater? That is another area with some major potential to increase funds for student athletes. You could setup recurring payments where fans donate $20, $50, $100 a year to the Recruitment Fund. Higher tiers get access to other perks like meet and greet, etc.

 

Onlyfans is a good guess for top payer since that opens up revenue sources from a wider audience even those without a desire to watch any college sports.

[homer]

I'll be interested to see how this changes things. I bet some enterprising athletes will come up with creative ways of capitalizing on it.

[jerichoholicninja]

You think Alabama or Ohio State doesn’t have a booster willing to pay 5x more, quite optimistic of you.

 

I predict the the top earner will not be from a booster or play college football…not even a man. I will put my bet on a woman creating an OnlyFans as the top earner.

 

Yesterday the question popped into my head if NCAA athletes were previously forbidden from doing OnlyFans.

[MrTPlush]

You think Alabama or Ohio State doesn’t have a booster willing to pay 5x more, quite optimistic of you.

 

I predict the the top earner will not be from a booster or play college football…not even a man. I will put my bet on a woman creating an OnlyFans as the top earner.

 

Yesterday the question popped into my head if NCAA athletes were previously forbidden from doing OnlyFans.

 

Outside of the name/likeness questionable part of it, probably not because I think it is considered social media. That was definitely not allowed.

 

That is where some of these players, notably women, will make a ton. Olivia Dunne has massive followings on TikTok/Instagram. I am guessing she can easily transform that into six figures a year now.

[JimH5]

Jeff Potrykus breaks down UW's rules on NIL income opportunities for athletes:

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/college/uw/2021/07/01/new-uw-ad-excited-see-how-athletes-can-capitalize-new-nil-ruling/7829735002/

[madbad2000]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/texas-and-oklahoma-to-sec-live-news-updates-as-big-12-powers-may-kick-start-conference-realignment/live/

 

With Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC conversation gaining a lot of heat, I'm curious how the other dominos fall. I have to imagine the Big Ten answers relatively quickly. Four superconferences finally happening? I think that may depend on where the Big 12 moves forward in terms of getting raided or adding others.

 

If Big Ten expands do they look for new markets for exposure (VA, NC, GA, TN, KS, MO, TX?) or do they take geography (Iowa State, WVU, Pitt, etc?

[JosephC]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/texas-and-oklahoma-to-sec-live-news-updates-as-big-12-powers-may-kick-start-conference-realignment/live/

 

With Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC conversation gaining a lot of heat, I'm curious how the other dominos fall. I have to imagine the Big Ten answers relatively quickly. Four superconferences finally happening? I think that may depend on where the Big 12 moves forward in terms of getting raided or adding others.

 

If Big Ten expands do they look for new markets for exposure (VA, NC, GA, TN, KS, MO, TX?) or do they take geography (Iowa State, WVU, Pitt, etc?

 

Call me an absolute hater of all these big conferences. I liked the old days when the Big 10 had 10 teams and you would only miss one team every year. Now if these conferences go to 16 teams then you have 7 games in your own division, 2 in the other division and you completely miss SIX teams per season. As a Badger fan, I don't care if it's Ohio State or Indiana, it sucks only playing a conference opponent only one time in four years which is what would happen in a 16-team conference.

 

What is super annoying is that we have prime matchups again Ohio State or Michigan taken away from us because the short-sighted idiots running the Big 10 had to add Maryland and Rutgers to shake dollars out of cable subscribers in those areas. To suck money out of a market that just 10 years later looks to be dying a much quicker than expected death. Thanks a lot! Idiots.

[wildcat83]

Looks like Kansas and Iowa State in talks with the Big 10

[homer]

Looks like Kansas and Iowa State in talks with the Big 10

 

That would be awesome for basketball.

[JosephC]

I'm likely done with college football if the Big 10 adds two more fourth-rate football schools and, even worse, they end up in the west.

 

Wisconsin's annual football schedule would be-

Iowa

Minnesota

Nebraska

Northwestern

Illinois

Kansas

Iowa State

 

Awful, just awful.

[pacopete4]

Add those two schools and kick Rutgers and Maryland to the curb.

[OldHeidelberg]

Iowa State in the Big Ten???? I guess the pickings are slim if Texas and OK gone but takes the Big Ten down a notch in football while the SEC becomes an even more massive powerhouse than it already is. I would rather see North Dakota State than Iowa State. I mean I am sure Iowa State is OK in football just not sure what it adds media market wise. I guess we should have accepted Missouri when they had the chance.

[madbad2000]

I have seen scenarios where the Big Ten could poach from the ACC with North Carolina, Clemson and FSU as potential answers to OU and Tex. I suppose there is a possibility the Big Ten could try for OU and Tex if the SEC flirtation falls through. I would bet that the Big Ten probably would like to increase their footprint for TV and recruiting purposes.

[PeaveyFury]

UNC and UVA would be such crazy basketball additions it would be insane. Both have been solid-ish in football historically, though unspectacular.

[OldHeidelberg]

I don’t think the B1G has the money advantage they had back in the last round of expansion so poaching the ACC will not be as easy. I would look at Miami and Virginia Tech as they may be easier to pull away.

[madbad2000]

I don’t think the B1G has the money advantage they had back in the last round of expansion so poaching the ACC will not be as easy. I would look at Miami and Virginia Tech as they may be easier to pull away.

 

The Big Ten was the highest grossing conference in 2019 at $781.5m which is about $40M more than the SEC and about $230m more than the ACC ($455m). You're looking at about a $25-30m per year jump for each school moving from the ACC to the Big Ten. The kicker is that the Big Ten TV contract is coming up for renewal in 2023 which means they will likely get another bump. The SEC has a new TV deal which will make them top conference in the short term for sure. But the Big 12, ACC and Pack 12 are significantly behind the top two conferences and either should be very attractive to any potential candidates the Big Ten approaches.

 

Something else at play is the reduction in NCAA oversight which leaves more power to the conferences. I'm watching this just as closely as realignment as that power could have significant sway in how championships play out, bowl games, etc to possibly make the rich richer and shut out those on the outside. Teams like Notre Dame are hoping for small ripples or status quo, but they may need to make a decision sooner than they want. If the Big Ten raids the ACC, Notre Dame can't feel too good about that relationship. It's really interesting watching how this will play out.

[PeaveyFury]

Notre Dame has always been the best possible mutual fit for the BigTen. The problem is that Notre Dame doesn’t want to play a Big Ten football schedule.

 

But ND and UNC would be a fantastic rounding out of the conference.

[nodakfan17]

According to this article from Yahoo, the SEC is trying to poach Michigan and Ohio State in route to forming a 20-team mega conference.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/latest-conference-realignment-rumor-states-123925223.html

[PeaveyFury]

That ‘article’ is SEC fanboy nonsense. They’re not turning their back on 130 years of history to greatly reduce their chances of making the playoff each year.

[nodakfan17]

That ‘article’ is SEC fanboy nonsense. They’re not turning their back on 130 years of history to greatly reduce their chances of making the playoff each year.

Probably, but at the very least, I think we’re witnessing the birth of four 16-team super conferences and possibly a pseudo-professional, school-affiliated league that replaces NCAA football.