2021 Miscellaneous College Football Thread

[endaround]

This is unconfirmed but does not include all the other amenities USC will bring in terms of being able to earn:

 

Given recent contracts by MSU and PSU are fully guaranteed, that $110 million and assorted bonuses are all set. No NFL team would pay close to that for a untested college coach. Gruden's contract was the closest in terms of dollars and that was not going to be repeated by a non-Raider team.

[homer]

This is unconfirmed but does not include all the other amenities USC will bring in terms of being able to earn:

 

Given recent contracts by MSU and PSU are fully guaranteed, that $110 million and assorted bonuses are all set. No NFL team would pay close to that for a untested college coach. Gruden's contract was the closest in terms of dollars and that was not going to be repeated by a non-Raider team.

 

Was reading that Oklahoma will go after Kliff Kingsbury and at first I didn't think there was a chance...but now?

[wildcat83]

Jalen Berger to Michigan State

[patrickgpe]

Brian Kelly to LSU, I didn’t realize how little his salary was. 1.6 million only

[Sixtofan]

Kelly made $2.67 million in salary plus was allowed to make outside income.

[patrickgpe]

Well Wikipedia was wrong, which wasn’t the first time. But he is making 10 million a year at LSU

 

Also that is still low for a coach of his stature

[JosephC]

Jalen Berger to Michigan State

 

There might be some that are unaware, but a Michigan State cornerback named Kalon Gervin transferred to Wisconsin. It's almost like the two teams made a good old-fashioned trade.

 

I see that Izayah Green-May also entered the portal. It's too bad he could never keep the weight on as it seemed the coaches loved his athleticism. That's 7 that entered the portal and then add the 2 running backs that were dismissed.

[PeaveyFury]

Urban Meyer is going to fail his way out of the NFL and into that Notre Dame job, isn’t he?

[nodakfan17]

Brian Kelly to LSU, I didn’t realize how little his salary was. 1.6 million only

[sarcasm]This all must be part of that ‘Great Resignation’ I keep reading about.[/sarcasm]

[homer]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

[MrTPlush]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

 

It kinda shocks me sometimes how much demand there is for them all to get paid this much...but I guess they feel a coach is pretty much essential to recruitment/success.

[stoutdude04]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

 

It kinda shocks me sometimes how much demand there is for them all to get paid this much...but I guess they feel a coach is pretty much essential to recruitment/success.

 

For sure - look at what is happening with Oklahoma. College football really is the haves and have nots, but what can ya do?

[MrTPlush]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

 

It kinda shocks me sometimes how much demand there is for them all to get paid this much...but I guess they feel a coach is pretty much essential to recruitment/success.

 

For sure - look at what is happening with Oklahoma. College football really is the haves and have nots, but what can ya do?

 

Yah, I guess the top dollar salaries aren't as shocking....but like PC? Dude makes over $5mil, that is kind of amazing.

 

I am sure part of the problem is the fact that is really the only high paying gig on the team so pouring dumb money into them is pretty minor.

[jerichoholicninja]

Bigger pieces of human garbage - college football coaches or politicians? I'll hang up and take my answer off the air.

[owbc]

It helps that they don't have to pay the players. So the system makes it that anyone who does recruiting is incredibly valuable.

 

I'm indifferent about the big schools. They can afford it. The athletics departments operate mostly outside of the rest of the university.

The small schools, that's another story. Until recently I worked as a researcher at a small school with a D-1 football program. The athletics department is massively in debt (due to football mostly) and the money is quietly being siphoned from the academic side of the university to keep athletics afloat, despite there being no hope of the football program ever being nationally competitive. It's sad.

 

There's no doubt that football players will eventually get paid, and when that time comes I hope it will force larger changes. Most D-1 football programs are struggling to pay the bills. They can't keep up. Many people think that football subsidizes other sports but it's usually the opposite.

 

The small schools won't be able to afford to pay the players. It's no different than MLB's economic inequity -- either there needs to be more revenue sharing or the top 30 or so programs need to go form their own separate league. Some people have suggested a promotion/relegation system between the top football division and a middle one. That would be great for the fans.

[endaround]

Bigger pieces of human garbage - college football coaches or politicians? I'll hang up and take my answer off the air.

Bowl presidents, FIFA officers, and IOC members

[sveumrules]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

 

There was a graphic going around awhile back showing the highest paid state employee in every state & like half the map was college football coaches with another dozen or so states where it was a college basketball coach instead.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

 

There was a graphic going around awhile back showing the highest paid state employee in every state & like half the map was college football coaches with another dozen or so states where it was a college basketball coach instead.

 

Well, that's just representative of the "above board" $$ paid to government employees - politicians' main incomes are most certainly not applicable in that regard.

 

I do think it's outrageous for university systems to cry poor and beg for additional tax revenue at federal/state/local levels when such huge portions of their budgets go towards paying the salaries of people who have nothing to do with higher education along with financing/maintaining all the facilities those extracurricular programs need to have in place in order to be functional - not to mention all the bell and whistle facilities added to campuses to try and attract students.

 

I get that in the case of major college football/basketball programs their revenue streams likely generate plenty of funds to pay the inflated coaches salaries (and oftentimes remaining contract amounts of their last 1-2 coaches that were fired), along with their facilities....but those athletic programs should in no way be linked financially to the university they are part of. My point is, Brian Kelly shouldn't be deemed an employee of the state of Louisiana because he coaches football at LSU - he should be an employee of LSU Football, Inc., its own private entity.

[homer]

The salaries these guys are getting to coach college football is kind of gross.

 

There was a graphic going around awhile back showing the highest paid state employee in every state & like half the map was college football coaches with another dozen or so states where it was a college basketball coach instead.

 

Well, that's just representative of the "above board" $$ paid to government employees - politicians' main incomes are most certainly not applicable in that regard.

 

I do think it's outrageous for university systems to cry poor and beg for additional tax revenue at federal/state/local levels when such huge portions of their budgets go towards paying the salaries of people who have nothing to do with higher education along with financing/maintaining all the facilities those extracurricular programs need to have in place in order to be functional - not to mention all the bell and whistle facilities added to campuses to try and attract students.

 

I get that in the case of major college football/basketball programs their revenue streams likely generate plenty of funds to pay the inflated coaches salaries (and oftentimes remaining contract amounts of their last 1-2 coaches that were fired), along with their facilities....but those athletic programs should in no way be linked financially to the university they are part of. My point is, Brian Kelly shouldn't be deemed an employee of the state of Louisiana because he coaches football at LSU - he should be an employee of LSU Football, Inc., its own private entity.

 

Would that make all the athletes unpaid interns?

[Fear The Chorizo]

 

There was a graphic going around awhile back showing the highest paid state employee in every state & like half the map was college football coaches with another dozen or so states where it was a college basketball coach instead.

 

Well, that's just representative of the "above board" $$ paid to government employees - politicians' main incomes are most certainly not applicable in that regard.

 

I do think it's outrageous for university systems to cry poor and beg for additional tax revenue at federal/state/local levels when such huge portions of their budgets go towards paying the salaries of people who have nothing to do with higher education along with financing/maintaining all the facilities those extracurricular programs need to have in place in order to be functional - not to mention all the bell and whistle facilities added to campuses to try and attract students.

 

I get that in the case of major college football/basketball programs their revenue streams likely generate plenty of funds to pay the inflated coaches salaries (and oftentimes remaining contract amounts of their last 1-2 coaches that were fired), along with their facilities....but those athletic programs should in no way be linked financially to the university they are part of. My point is, Brian Kelly shouldn't be deemed an employee of the state of Louisiana because he coaches football at LSU - he should be an employee of LSU Football, Inc., its own private entity.

 

Would that make all the athletes unpaid interns?

 

You know what? With the exception of paying their room and board and giving them an option to pursue a degree if they wish at the university that owns the property the football program would rent for their facilities, why not? Unpaid internships often are incredibly valued by the brightest and most talented aspiring professionals in a host of other career paths - major college athletics is no different in that regard.

[nodakfan17]

This morning’s Ask Vic column mentioned that Notre Dame requires all freshmen (including football players) to take calculus. I’m guessing LSU has no such requirement.

[patrickgpe]

you are right about that, but he quadrupled his salary. I would assume this has a lot to do with it. He was successful at Notre Dame and from what I read he has better squads the next 2 seasons in the pipeline. He is 60 and took the jack as one last opportunity to get rich.

[yourout]

This morning’s Ask Vic column mentioned that Notre Dame requires all freshmen (including football players) to take calculus. I’m guessing LSU has no such requirement.

 

They probably could not spell calculus.

[patrickgpe]

Kelly tried to lure freeman to lsu, so they were forced to name him their head coach rather than wait for fickel.

[patrickgpe]

What a piece of work

https://dailysnark.com/2021/12/02/brian-kelly-seems-to-have-developed-a-southern-accent-after-one-day-of-being-in-louisiana/?fbclid=IwAR3kMATV1g_XQHMBCWS5zFPbpnQYitGX4rtkN0OGwR-XQDmAIcvlP4jBXFw