2021-06-17: Brewers (Woodruff) at Rockies (Márquez) [Brewers lose, 7-3 -- Crew manages just 3 hits, commits 4 errors]

[titletownking]

Singles hitter Christian Yelich up to bat.

[titletownking]

Yep… called it.

[adambr2]

The hitter friendly air at Coors is no match for the incompetence of our offense.

[Eye Black]

I think the spin rate “sky is falling” stuff is overblown. Even the best substance, presumably Spider Tack, isn’t going to turn some middling Triple-A pitcher into a Cy Young candidate. Also, the majority of pitchers were using some sort of substance, so even if offense improves somewhat it isn’t like we’re going to see wild variations in which pitchers are “good” and which are “bad”.

 

There might be an adjustment period where pitchers struggle to adjust for a couple of weeks, but I think that will end up being the extent of any issues and everything will eventually settle back towards normal once again. I would guess by 2022 MLB develops a tacky baseball like other professional leagues have done.

[magnoliacrew]

Did Urias have this throwing problem before we traded away Trent Grisham?

[Simba2020]

I think the spin rate “sky is falling” stuff is overblown. Even the best substance, presumably Spider Tack, isn’t going to turn some middling Triple-A pitcher into a Cy Young candidate. Also, the majority of pitchers were using some sort of substance, so even if offense improves somewhat it isn’t like we’re going to see wild variations in which pitchers are “good” and which are “bad”.

 

There might even be an adjustment period where pitchers struggle to adjust for a couple of weeks, but I think that will end up be the extent of any issues and everything will eventually settle back towards normalcy once again.

I don't think any conclusions can be drawn yet one way or the other. But you take somebody like Bauer who was mostly a decent pitcher with a career 4.04 ERA going into 2020. But in 2020, his 4-seam spin rate went from 2410 to 2779 and he wins a Cy Young award. This year his spin rates were about the same as 2020 through his first 12 starts and he gave up 40 hits in 76.1 IP. Clearly his spin rate was down his last two starts and he gave up 15 hits in 12.1 IP. That's a small sample size but still pretty interesting.

 

I'll admit spin rates aren't going to turn Yardley into Peralta but I suspect it helps already very good pitchers take their top quartile spin rates to levels that really create an unfair advantage.

[BruisedCrew]

One bright spot tonight. The Brewers have kept their 69 game hitting streak alive.

[Simba2020]

Did Urias have this throwing problem before we traded away Trent Grisham?

Not sure what type of errors he was making with the Padres but the volume of errors at short are about the same so I'd imagine the answer is yes. He was probably a 2B for a reason.

[Eye Black]

I'll admit spin rates aren't going to turn Yardley into Peralta but I suspect it helps already very good pitchers take their top quartile spin rates to levels that really create an unfair advantage.

Yes, I agree with you that it’s likely helping already good pitchers become dominant. And to be a little clearer, I do think it we will see modest improvements to league wide offense. I just don’t think we are likely to see wild fluctuations among the current hierarchy of pitchers.

[Simba2020]

This is pathetic.

[mtrebs]

Maybe we’ll give up another grand slam now…

[adambr2]

For all the talk about building a great defense, we sure suck at defense.

[magnoliacrew]

Maybe we’ll give up another grand slam now…

 

I share your concern didn't want to speak it into existence.

[magnoliacrew]

For all the talk about building a great defense, we sure suck at defense.

 

Right, I remember the commentary about having a great double play defense, especially relative to our pitching. I've been tracking it this year, and I don't see it. For example, Colorado had 62 DPs coming into tonight while the Brewers had 37.

[timpep]

I think that the better your pitchers are the fewer double plays you get as a team, simply because you'll have fewer chances to get them. Just like the better offenses usually hit into more than the worse offenses because they have more chances to do so.

[JET15]

This is such an ugly game. 5 errors and counting, folks

[timpep]

2 free runners and it's a 4 batter inning. And that was the good half of the order.

[JET15]

For all the talk about building a great defense, we sure suck at defense.

 

Right, I remember the commentary about having a great double play defense, especially relative to our pitching. I've been tracking it this year, and I don't see it. For example, Colorado had 62 DPs coming into tonight while the Brewers had 37.

 

COL got 3 more tonight, thanks to the Brewer's hitters

[wildcat2237]

This offense is offensive. So painful to watch.

[wildcat2237]

Okay. Time to dfa Yardley. Yuck.

[magnoliacrew]

This offense is offensive. So painful to watch.

 

Can the defense also be offensive?

[brewers888]

Unless Stearns makes a dramatic move to improve the offense this team is going nowhere.

[Simba2020]

I think we'll be very fortunate to win one game in this series.

[brewers888]

So what exactly will it take for Haines to be replaced or is the guy completely untouchable.

[trwi7]

Can't say I disagree with Yardley's entrance song.