2021-06-01: Tigers (Boyd) at Brewers (Lauer) [Brewers lose, 10-7 -- Crew hits 5 HRs including 2 each from Wong and Taylor]

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Eric Lauer: Batter (Tigers) vs Pitching Stats

 

Matthew Boyd: Batter (Brewers) vs Pitching Stats

 

 

Statcast Game Preview for Tigers-Brewers

 

Statcast Game Feed for Tigers-Brewers

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LHP Matt Boyd started the game last September 9th versus the Brewers that the Crew ultimately won 19-0.

[Lake Geneva Brewer]

LHP Matt Boyd started the game last September 9th versus the Brewers that the Crew ultimately won 19-0.

 

Now that's what I call a "fun fact"!

[Zad Fnark]

Just pretend they're all wearing Dodger's jerseys.

[CheezWizHed]

Just pretend they're all wearing Dodger's jerseys.

 

Lauer really has only had one bad outing this year (ATL 3ER in 3IP) and 3 good starts. He is looking more like the pitcher we expected to get back in the trade (i.e. younger Zach Davies) and not the 2020 version he showed last year.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Just pretend they're all wearing Dodger's jerseys.

 

Lauer really has only had one bad outing this year (ATL 3ER in 3IP) and 3 good starts. He is looking more like the pitcher we expected to get back in the trade (i.e. younger Zach Davies) and not the 2020 version he showed last year.

 

I think the fact that Lauer is a lefty likely makes him more valuable than Davies ever was. He does throw harder than Davies too. I've seen several 94s and perhaps even a 95 or two out of him this year. He's been a pleasant surprise so far no doubt. He, along with Urias's success with the bat lately, are definitely making that Grisham/Davies deal a bit easier to stomach.

[CheezWizHed]

Yeah, I didn't necessarily mean he pitched the same as Davies. But more of a #3/4 type SP ceiling. Giving up Davies wasn't too bad in the trade, but seeing Grisham blossom in SD (or continue his success as he did pretty well his last year here) was tough.

 

I read that Lauer did shorted his pitching arm path to improve the repeatability of his mechanics. I wonder if that had any impact to his velocity too? Seems counter intuitive, but who knows...

[timpep]

Just pretend they're all wearing Dodger's jerseys.

 

Lauer really has only had one bad outing this year (ATL 3ER in 3IP) and 3 good starts. He is looking more like the pitcher we expected to get back in the trade (i.e. younger Zach Davies) and not the 2020 version he showed last year.

 

I think the fact that Lauer is a lefty likely makes him more valuable than Davies ever was. He does throw harder than Davies too. I've seen several 94s and perhaps even a 95 or two out of him this year. He's been a pleasant surprise so far no doubt. He, along with Urias's success with the bat lately, are definitely making that Grisham/Davies deal a bit easier to stomach.

 

Davies was a good pitcher outside of one weird year where he had some phantom injury. He's only 28 now. When he was Eric's age he already had 3 2+bWAR seasons under his belt. Heck he had more WAR last year than Lauer does for his career. I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

[sveumrules]

I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

 

Lauer | 22 IP | 2.45 ERA | 167 ERA+ | 0.5 WAR

Davies | 50 IP | 4.65 ERA | 82 ERA+ | 0.0 WAR

 

Lauer has been more valuable than Davies so far in 2021.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Davies was a good pitcher outside of one weird year where he had some phantom injury. He's only 28 now. When he was Eric's age he already had 3 2+bWAR seasons under his belt. Heck he had more WAR last year than Lauer does for his career. I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

 

Lefties inherently have more value that righties ... simply because it is more rare to be able to find competent ones.

[CheezWizHed]

I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

 

Lauer | 22 IP | 2.45 ERA | 167 ERA+ | 0.5 WAR

Davies | 50 IP | 4.65 ERA | 82 ERA+ | 0.0 WAR

 

Lauer has been more valuable than Davies so far in 2021.

DOH!

 

Here is another:

Davies: $8,630,000

Lauer: $562,500

 

It was pretty obvious that part of the trade was to move "backwards" into the cost-controlled years of Lauer over the arbitration/FA years of Davies.

 

Plus, I didn't dump on Davies as a bad pitcher. I said they had similar ceilings as a #3/4 type SP.

[timpep]

Davies was a good pitcher outside of one weird year where he had some phantom injury. He's only 28 now. When he was Eric's age he already had 3 2+bWAR seasons under his belt. Heck he had more WAR last year than Lauer does for his career. I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

 

Lefties inherently have more value that righties ... simply because it is more rare to be able to find competent ones.

 

I mean, there are limits to that. Suter isn't more valuable than Burnes for example, regardless of salary or service time.

[timpep]

I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

 

Lauer | 22 IP | 2.45 ERA | 167 ERA+ | 0.5 WAR

Davies | 50 IP | 4.65 ERA | 82 ERA+ | 0.0 WAR

 

Lauer has been more valuable than Davies so far in 2021.

 

Oh snap, you got me, Lauer has had a good 22 innings so far this year.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Davies was a good pitcher outside of one weird year where he had some phantom injury. He's only 28 now. When he was Eric's age he already had 3 2+bWAR seasons under his belt. Heck he had more WAR last year than Lauer does for his career. I hope Lauer keeps doing what he's doing but I don't think there has ever been a point where Lauer has been more valuable than Davies.

 

Lefties inherently have more value that righties ... simply because it is more rare to be able to find competent ones.

 

I mean, there are limits to that. Suter isn't more valuable than Burnes for example, regardless of salary or service time.

 

Of course, you are very much correct. But when it comes to two pitchers that offer somewhat similar stuff and perceivable upside, I would imagine that most teams would pick the lefty.

[PinaMadness]

Looking forward to seeing Hiura behind the plate today.

[PinaMadness]

 

Congrats, Woody.

[phnxcrew]

Looking forward to seeing Hiura behind the plate today.

 

If they let him hit from behind the plate his OBP should be amazing!

[Warning Track Power]

I don't know what it is but Boyd just feels like a guy who is destined to be the Cubs SP acquisition at the deadline (should they be buyers at the deadline). A guy with a lot of hype who has been historically inconsistent but somehow figures it all out once he gets to Chicago.

[brooks_quichenick]

That's an embarrassing effort on a routine throw with 38 year old Miguel Cabrera lumbering down the 1st base line. Yeesh

[Warning Track Power]

Adames D has not been nearly as good as advertised...

[jason21nl]

Totally unacceptable

[markedman5]

I say again……what is going on with throws from the SS position on routine plays?

 

I,mean come on.

[BruisedCrew]

Brewers SS throwing to first with slow runners lumbering down the line is a recipe for disaster.

[Sixtofan]

Yep that was ugly.

[Sixtofan]

The worst part is all the extra pitches Lauer has to throw now