Brewers AS candidates

[adambr2]

I assume Woodruff and Hader have to be close to locks right now.

 

Burnes and Peralta certainly have cases, but I don't know how many pitchers they would take from us.

 

Can't think of any position players that would really be in the running at all. Maybe Narvaez, but I'm not sure how the catching race looks. Yadi is probably a lock on reputation alone.

[MrTPlush]

I imagine Corbin Burnes would be an easy lock. He missed some time, but if he continues to be a big time ace before roster are picked...easy selection. His stats are bonkers and that record put him on the radar early.

 

Omar Narvaez is currently cratering at the moment.

He has honestly been terrible in May...like really really really bad.

[roadcrew3]

I imagine Corbin Burnes would be an easy lock. He missed some time, but if he continues to be a big time ace before roster are picked...easy selection. His stats are bonkers and that record put him on the radar early.

 

Omar Narvaez is currently cratering at the moment.

He has honestly been terrible in May...like really really really bad.

 

Based on what? He's hitting .240 over 30 ABs in May...He had a rough road trip and definitely isn't tearing the cover off the ball but if that's your definition of cratering then just wait till you see a couple of the other guys on the roster.

[MrTPlush]

I imagine Corbin Burnes would be an easy lock. He missed some time, but if he continues to be a big time ace before roster are picked...easy selection. His stats are bonkers and that record put him on the radar early.

 

Omar Narvaez is currently cratering at the moment.

He has honestly been terrible in May...like really really really bad.

 

Based on what? He's hitting .240 over 30 ABs in May...He had a rough road trip and definitely isn't tearing the cover off the ball but if that's your definition of cratering then just wait till you see a couple of the other guys on the roster.

 

If you are going to just use one stat, check out OPS...he is at .678.

 

That’s really bad.

[adambr2]

I imagine Corbin Burnes would be an easy lock. He missed some time, but if he continues to be a big time ace before roster are picked...easy selection. His stats are bonkers and that record put him on the radar early.

 

Omar Narvaez is currently cratering at the moment.

He has honestly been terrible in May...like really really really bad.

 

Based on what? He's hitting .240 over 30 ABs in May...He had a rough road trip and definitely isn't tearing the cover off the ball but if that's your definition of cratering then just wait till you see a couple of the other guys on the roster.

 

If you are going to just use one stat, check out OPS...he is at .678.

 

That’s really bad.

 

If that's a cratering stretch you are having a pretty good season. The average OPS this year is. 708. I don't know what the average catcher OPS is but probably somewhere in that ballpark.

[MrTPlush]

The average catcher OPS means nothing. He needs to be in the top three at his position and even at catcher you are going to need to be an offensive force. He is currently 4th in the NL with Will Smith/Yadier Molina close behind. Two guys that would easily be preferred over him if the stats are close. Buster Posey and Carson Kelly both have OPSs over 1.000.

 

Omar Narvaez has been great so far, but an All Star...probably not. A sub .700 OPS won’t get him there. We are talking about him being an All Star, not just a good catcher.

[TigerUppercut]

The average catcher OPS means nothing. He needs to be in the top three at his position and even at catcher you are going to need to be an offensive force. He is currently 4th in the NL with Will Smith/Yadier Molina close behind. Two guys that would easily be preferred over him if the stats are close. Buster Posey and Carson Kelly both have OPSs over 1.000.

 

Omar Narvaez has been great so far, but an All Star...probably not. A sub .700 OPS won’t get him there. We are talking about him being an All Star, not just a good catcher.

 

But you're missing the point. The average catcher OPS means nothing to you but when you use small sample numbers to position your argument, it does mean something when you look at it from the lens of that "really, really bad" small stretch of baseball being so "bad" it's average for the position.

[markedman5]

Running out of superlatives for Woody

[umphrey]

I thought Narvaez was 6th in MLB catcher WAR which definitely doesn’t make him an all star but puts him in the running as our best chance for a position player (2nd is Wong, 3rd is no one)

[FVBrewerFan]

.678 OPS over a short period of time is really, really, really bad? I have no dog in this fight, but that's a bad take. Just own it and let's move on.

[BruisedCrew]

.678 OPS over a short period of time is really, really, really bad? I have no dog in this fight, but that's a bad take. Just own it and let's move on.

 

It’s an especially bad take when you consider that Narvaez was coming off the IL.

 

But, for the AS team, Posey is having a great season so far, as has Carson Kelly of the DBacks. Realmuto would easily be ahead of Narvaez too.

 

I don’t think we’ll be seeing any Brewers position players in the ASG unless there is a lot of attrition.

[Jopal78]

Is there fan voting? If so, Yelich is still a big marketable star for MLB he could get voted in

[Oxy]

You'd have to be top 3 for the fan vote to matter. Betts, Harper, Acuna, and a bag of balls from the Dodgers club...I mean Cody Bellinger would make it over Yeli.

[MrTPlush]

A .678 OPS is bad offense and certainly would be aiding to cratering anyone’s AS chances at any position. Sorry, that doesn’t seem like a crazy take to me. Voters aren’t going to care that he was coming off an injury and think .678 was impressive. That may be true in reality, but not when an AS roster gets picked.

 

AS appearances are made on name recognition and piling up the stats for three months (and if your coach is picking rosters). Being MIA and bad for 1/3 of that time is going to be a big problem.

 

Of course, he still has all of June to make or break his chances. However, as things stand now he probably wouldn’t make it and he has a few high end names on his tail also chasing the leaders. Guessing he would have to have a crazy month similar to his April just to have a chance. That’s just how good so many catchers in the NL have been up to this point. Usually, I feel like, a .850+ OPS at catcher would not put you in a 5+ race entering June.

[MVP2110]

It sure seems like if it were today the all stars would be Woody, Burnes, Hader, and an outside shot at Freddy although I'm doubtful on him right now. Not sure anyone else even comes close to being deserving

[adambr2]

A .678 OPS is bad offense and certainly would be aiding to cratering anyone’s AS chances at any position. Sorry, that doesn’t seem like a crazy take to me. Voters aren’t going to care that he was coming off an injury and think .678 was impressive. That may be true in reality, but not when an AS roster gets picked.

 

AS appearances are made on name recognition and piling up the stats for three months (and if your coach is picking rosters). Being MIA and bad for 1/3 of that time is going to be a big problem.

 

Of course, he still has all of June to make or break his chances. However, as things stand now he probably wouldn’t make it and he has a few high end names on his tail also chasing the leaders. Guessing he would have to have a crazy month similar to his April just to have a chance. That’s just how good so many catchers in the NL have been up to this point. Usually, I feel like, a .850+ OPS at catcher would not put you in a 5+ race entering June.

 

Saying that a .678 OPS stretch is an unfriendly stretch for All-Star credentials and saying that he has had a really really really terrible May are two different things, though.

 

I think people are taking more exception with the latter statement, not the former.

[Sixtofan]

As much as I love Brewers to get the recognition, I hate the idea of having three pitchers in the all star game. Especially in a year when limiting innings and work is important.

[MrTPlush]

I wouldn't be concerned with a pitchers use in the ASG. At worst, if you are the starter, you may go two innings. Past that guys are usually going an inning. I also find it really unlikely that the manager would make 33%+ of the innings covered by one teams pitchers. Usually, especially since the game became meaningless, you are expected to showcase a bit more variety of teams. If we send 3-4 pitchers they all probably won't pitch.

 

The AS break is pretty long. I would guess most pitchers find time to pitch at some point during it anyway like they do all season long. Pretty sure starters still do BP session on their third(?) rest day. Might as well consider their ASG appearance as that.

[roadcrew3]

I think Woodruff, Burnes, and Hader are close to locks to be there. Peralta probably doesn't have the national recognition needed. His stat line is similar to guys like Kershaw, Wheeler, Flaherty so would think they get the nod over him just based on popularity.

 

I agree not sure any position player would be in consideration, although, if Yelich has a nice few weeks here he might be able to make that list of the last player voted in by fans (if they still do that).

[BruisedCrew]

Is there fan voting? If so, Yelich is still a big marketable star for MLB he could get voted in

 

I hope that doesn’t happen. I’m one of those old traditionalists who prefers to see players selected for the ASG based on current performance and not popularity.

 

Even if Yelich is selected, I would hope that he would choose to use the four days to rest instead of going through the preparations for an exhibition game.

[KeithStone53151]

the only Brewers hitters that even have a shot at AS game are Narvaez and Houser.

[wibadgers23]

For me, nobody on offense obviously but Woodruff, Burnes and Hader would be locks. Freddy with a chance too.

[jjfanec]

For me, nobody on offense obviously but Woodruff, Burnes and Hader would be locks. Freddy with a chance too.

 

If they got 3 catchers it would seem hard to leave Narvaez out. Posey gets the starting spot. Narvaez has the next best OPS. Realmuto and Kelly are next and close so there is time for that change.

[Outlander]

Would imagine Hader is a lock and then just depends which of the three starters they want and how much room they have.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Harder, Narvaez, Woodruff.

 

I could see either Peralta or Burnes taking Woodruff's spot depending on how the rotation falls out and who is available to pitch an inning