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Brewers trade Feyereisen, Rasmussen to Rays for SS Willy Adames, RHP Trevor Richards


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I think Adames feeds off the home crowd energy. That bat flip HR and now Grand Slam. Crowds this size he'd only see on the road before. Seriously just stamp him face of franchise extend him this off-season. Yelich lost his after that kneecap. Just human. Willy isn't.

 

Just to add to that feeling. 7 hits in 6games. 7 walks in 6 games. 2 epic HRs. Since full capacity allowed.

 

The "crowds" in Tampa were pretty bad. The only times they filled the place was when the Yankees or Red Sox were in town. I don't know if fans are attending home games now with the Rays playing well seeing I'm not watching those games while I'm up here.

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I think Adames feeds off the home crowd energy. That bat flip HR and now Grand Slam. Crowds this size he'd only see on the road before. Seriously just stamp him face of franchise extend him this off-season. Yelich lost his after that kneecap. Just human. Willy isn't.

 

Just to add to that feeling. 7 hits in 6games. 7 walks in 6 games. 2 epic HRs. Since full capacity allowed.

 

The "crowds" in Tampa were pretty bad. The only times they filled the place was when the Yankees or Red Sox were in town. I don't know if fans are attending home games now with the Rays playing well seeing I'm not watching those games while I'm up here.

 

BREF shows Milw just above 16k. Tampa just above 6k. On this season. Imagine that gap widens with each home game remaining.

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He was all over the IGT yesterday after the Brewers went down 7-0 after 1/2 inning. Absent after that. Strange.

To be fair, it must be difficult to rewrite and reword the same post 1000 times.

 

I'll come to his defense:

We are in it now.
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Richards now has 19 innings with the Brewers, the same amount Feyereisen had when traded.

 

RICHARDS 19 IP 15 H 9 BB 24 K 3 HR 1.26 WHIP

 

FEYEREISEN: 19.1 IP 10 H 11 BB 20 K 2 HR 1.10 WHIP

 

It's almost a carbon copy, although Feyereisen has been used in more high leverage situations with the Rays.

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both had 2 bad appearances with the brewers. you are correct Richards hasn't been used in high leverage situations but he has helped right the ship after loosing your 7th inning guy and the guy I thought would take over the 7th has struggled since the trade.
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Feyereisen is porbably a little better than Richards. But Richards does have starting background, so you would think he could give you more multiple inning games and save the pen on blowouts. You have to think the Rays were looking as Rassmussen as the push for the trade, more so than expecting Feyereisen to be this good.

 

Whether you thought Richards would suck, you would still do the trade. That he has been okay, is peaches and gravy to me.

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Man, if we have a .280 BA, 25 HR hitting shortstop - who plays pretty good defense - that's going to be huge for the next couple of years. Just huge.

 

This. Adames has said he couldnt see the ball at Tropicana. He also feeds off the energy. Stearns was apparently after him for at least a year. Credit to Stearns for seeing saomething that none of us saw.

 

Stearns found an underpeforming talent who was "surplus" in Tampa and used a strength to acquire him, IN JUNE.

 

In May actually, which is even more impressive.

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I was concerned that Adames was trending downward when we acquired him, and I'm a natural skeptic of any Stearns deal involving middle infielders, but I'm ecstatic with what Adames is giving us. Season altering acquisition, maybe franchise altering.

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The negative reaction to this trade was one of the most bizarre I can remember on this site. Willy Adames was considered a top 10-15 prospect in all of baseball when he debuted in 2018, he was on pace for a 4.5 fWAR season over 162 games just last season in 2020, he has never been bad, and we gave up a middle-tier prospect and a scrapheap RP having a nice season. In his career, Adames has now averaged 3.3 fWAR/4.1 bWAR per 162 games. Oh yeah, and he's still just 25 years old and has not even hit arbitration yet.

 

Baffling that Tampa Bay gave him up so cheaply.

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It's just as odd to me that they couldn't get a better return. Not one team in baseball valued Adames for more than a pair of relievers?

 

Unless they were absolutely in love with JP or Rasmussen, it's odd. In hindsight Adames looks more worth the kind of return that we gave up for Yelich than what we actually did.

 

It indeed appears that his vision issues at the Trop were hindering his career. Was this a problem totally unique to Adames there? I've never really heard of only one particular player having trouble seeing the ball at one specific park.

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It's just as odd to me that they couldn't get a better return. Not one team in baseball valued Adames for more than a pair of relievers?

 

Unless they were absolutely in love with JP or Rasmussen, it's odd. In hindsight Adames looks more worth the kind of return that we gave up for Yelich than what we actually did.

 

It indeed appears that his vision issues at the Trop were hindering his career. Was this a problem totally unique to Adames there? I've never really heard of only one particular player having trouble seeing the ball at one specific park.

 

I think it was probably a perfect storm of factors: (1) the market value of Adames was at a short-term low because he opened the season cold (like half the league); (2) Tampa Bay foolishly felt time pressure to immediately unload him to make room for Wander Franco and their other prospects; (3) Stearns was probably more aggressive than other teams in showing a willingness to trade MLB-ready pieces so early in the season; (4) Tampa Bay likes Feyereisen enough that they had him closing out games right away; and (5) Tampa Bay may be high on Rasmussen to slot into the weird quasi-SP system they tend to utilize.

 

All the better for us! I think I posted this earlier, but honestly if coming into 2021 we had traded Josh Hader straight up for Willy Adames I would not have been surprised or really disappointed. Incredible trade.

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(2) Tampa Bay foolishly felt time pressure to immediately unload him to make room for Wander Franco and their other prospects

It’s sort of a testament to just how strong Tampa Bay’s overall system is when they can trade away infielders the caliber of Jake Cronenworth, Nick Solak, Nate Lowe, Willy Adames and yet still not really skip a beat.

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(2) Tampa Bay foolishly felt time pressure to immediately unload him to make room for Wander Franco and their other prospects

It’s sort of a testament to just how strong Tampa Bay’s overall system is when they can trade away infielders the caliber of Jake Cronenworth, Nick Solak, Nate Lowe, Willy Adames and yet still not really skip a beat.

You could say its a testament to the Brewers front office in how they are able to scrounge up RP every year when other teams seem to struggle. I realize not the same caliber of players but we did just trade two of them for a very good SS.

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Rasmussen is a nice prospect and Tampa obviously likes him since they drafted him originally, I could see this trade flipping back in Tampa's favor a few years from now. Heck Urias and Grisham are a lot closer now then they were a few weeks ago and that trade looked like a disaster. Edited by OldHeidelberg
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(2) Tampa Bay foolishly felt time pressure to immediately unload him to make room for Wander Franco and their other prospects

It’s sort of a testament to just how strong Tampa Bay’s overall system is when they can trade away infielders the caliber of Jake Cronenworth, Nick Solak, Nate Lowe, Willy Adames and yet still not really skip a beat.

 

To Tampa’s defense, Willy was hitting a buck something when we acquired him, and his hitting in Tampa’s Trop was even worse. What has happened with Willy in Milwaukee is not normal anywhere.

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(2) Tampa Bay foolishly felt time pressure to immediately unload him to make room for Wander Franco and their other prospects

It’s sort of a testament to just how strong Tampa Bay’s overall system is when they can trade away infielders the caliber of Jake Cronenworth, Nick Solak, Nate Lowe, Willy Adames and yet still not really skip a beat.

 

To Tampa’s defense, Willy was hitting a buck something when we acquired him, and his hitting in Tampa’s Trop was even worse. What has happened with Willy in Milwaukee is not normal anywhere.

 

Not necessarily. He's been fantastic since moving to Milwaukee, but when I checked about a week ago his very good numbers with Milwaukee were not even that much better than what he did across all of 2020. (They are much better now after his last week.)

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We secured one of the foundations of our lineup for years to come who plays good d at a premium position for the spare change in the couch. This trade could end up being thought of right next to the yelich one soon.
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