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2021-05-21: Brewers (Houser) at Reds (Hoffman) [Brewers lose, 9-4 -- Winker hits 3 HRs, Crew’s slide continues]

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SeaBass First Round Pick

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I'm convinced by the deadened ball. I have seen more balls off the bat that past couple weeks that I thought were gone and weren't even close than I can ever remember.

Isn't that common knowledge? I thought they announced they were doing that before the season. I could be wrong.

 

Edit: Sorry I read your comment wrong, I get it now.

"Counsell is stupid, Hader not used right, Bradley shouldn't have been in the lineup...Brewers win!!" - FVBrewerFan - 6/3/21
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Why do we just assume as a given that the pitcher makes an unproductive out? Houser is a pretty good hitting pitcher.

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Yes, thank you. The average NL pitcher OPS is .329.

Okay you win. Should have expected a run there because his two homeruns make his OPS better than an average pitcher.

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I'm convinced by the deadened ball. I have seen more balls off the bat that past couple weeks that I thought were gone and weren't even close than I can ever remember.

 

Other guys don't seem to have too much trouble hitting lately. I mean hell, this Reds team gave up 19 yesterday. Somebody's hitting the ball hard.

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homer

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Don't @ me, but I've never liked the name Winker.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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I'm convinced by the deadened ball. I have seen more balls off the bat that past couple weeks that I thought were gone and weren't even close than I can ever remember.

Isn't that common knowledge? I thought they announced they were doing that before the season. I could be wrong.

They definitely announced it, I just didn't know that it would be so noticeable.... Although apparently not as noticeable for the other teams, lol.

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The other teams we play don't have the dead ball problems as badly as the Brewers do. Sigh.
"Counsell is stupid, Hader not used right, Bradley shouldn't have been in the lineup...Brewers win!!" - FVBrewerFan - 6/3/21
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I'm convinced by the deadened ball. I have seen more balls off the bat that past couple weeks that I thought were gone and weren't even close than I can ever remember.

 

Other guys don't seem to have too much trouble hitting lately. I mean hell, this Reds team gave up 19 yesterday. Somebody's hitting the ball hard.

 

I think there's a difference between hitting it hard and hitting it out. I would be curious to see average exit velocities year by year though. Maybe it's down this year?

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Okay you win. Should have expected a run there because his two homeruns make his OPS better than an average pitcher.

 

Why are you getting mad that you displayed his stats to prove that I was wrong that he isn't a good hitting pitcher and I simply pointed out that the average pitcher is worse? He's been hitting well this year.

 

I'm not saying in a vacuum to expect the pitcher to come through, but cumulatively I expect us to be able to cash in on some scoring opportunities and be able to score runs off terrible pitchers like Jeff Hoffman. And yet here we are again, continuing to piss away chances against a terrible pitcher and down by 3.

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Okay you win. Should have expected a run there because his two homeruns make his OPS better than an average pitcher.

 

Why are you getting mad that you displayed his stats to prove that I was wrong that he isn't a good hitting pitcher and I simply pointed out that the average pitcher is worse? He's been hitting well this year.

 

I'm not saying in a vacuum to expect the pitcher to come through, but cumulatively I expect us to be able to cash in on some scoring opportunities and be able to score runs off terrible pitchers like Jeff Hoffman. And yet here we are again, continuing to piss away chances and down by 3.

I thought his 4 career hits talked more loudly than his irrelevant OPS but wherever you want to find positivity I'm not against it.

"Counsell is stupid, Hader not used right, Bradley shouldn't have been in the lineup...Brewers win!!" - FVBrewerFan - 6/3/21
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I'm just saying, while they've been really bad in those situations, it would have been gravy if the pitcher knocked/sacrificed/walked in a run there. Houser's had a couple good swings on one guy this year, but otherwise I certainly have no reason to expect him to get a run in there. It would have been nice to score more, but I think they scored the exact number of runs as you would expect in that situation.
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Okay you win. Should have expected a run there because his two homeruns make his OPS better than an average pitcher.

 

Why are you getting mad that you displayed his stats to prove that I was wrong that he isn't a good hitting pitcher and I simply pointed out that the average pitcher is worse? He's been hitting well this year.

 

I'm not saying in a vacuum to expect the pitcher to come through, but cumulatively I expect us to be able to cash in on some scoring opportunities and be able to score runs off terrible pitchers like Jeff Hoffman. And yet here we are again, continuing to piss away chances and down by 3.

I thought his 4 career hits talked more loudly than his irrelevant OPS but wherever you want to find positivity I'm not against it.

 

I have no doubt I'm being partially irrational. I'm just frustrated and tired of seeing us not score and subsequently not win night after night.

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Don't @ me, but I've never liked the name "Jonathan"

 

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I SAID DON'T @ ME!!!

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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I'm not even slightly offended listening to Karros' harping on how bad the Brewers offense is. That's sad in and of itself.
"Counsell is stupid, Hader not used right, Bradley shouldn't have been in the lineup...Brewers win!!" - FVBrewerFan - 6/3/21
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Houser would be decent as a back end starter on a team that could actually score runs. On this team, he's almost a guaranteed L.

 

Well, Woodruff and Burnes are some of the best pitchers in baseball this year and they almost have a guaranteed loss when they pitch…

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