2021-05-09: Brewers (Anderson) at Marlins (Alcantara) [Brewers win, 2-1 in 10 innings -- Crew improves on league best all-time record on Mother’s Day]

[markedman5]

Huge win! Way to go boys!

[RollieTime]

Happy Mother’s Day Brewers fans!

[Patrick425]

[sarcasm]Brewer's bullpen stinks[/sarcasm]

[ReverendBrewmeister]

Another nail biter game. Good to get a series win in Miami after the losing sweep in Philadelphia.

[wOOgiE22]

I feel like you start with Rasmussen in the 9th. If a runner gets in scoring position then bring in Hader. I don’t know, I would rather have my best pitcher throwing in the tough spots.

[CheezWizHed]

Gotta get to the 10th before anything else.

The problem is that’s more so classic coach-speak than rooted in any actual probability based reasoning. That’s fine if we want to harken back to the days of “go with your gut” coaching, but the truth is the odds were pretty good Rasmussen wouldn’t have given up a run in the 9th inning with no one beginning the inning on base, and now Hader would have a chance to win you the game in the 10th by stranding the runner. The odds of winning would’ve increased significantly in that scenario. Even if Rasmussen blew the game then at least you saved an inning on Hader’s arm.

 

 

...Now lets hope Rasmussen just strikes everyone out anyway.

 

I hope this doesn't come off snarky but please show your data/proof showing that it is statically better to hold Hader for the 10th.

 

I was going back and forth on this in my mind too. Certainly would prefer Hader with one on second given this K rate. But I'd hate to bring Ras into the 9th and have him give up the lead with Hader in the BP...

[adambr2]

I am in the Eye Black camp and think strikeout pitchers are an efficiency for extra innings given the rules.

 

However, to be fair, Rasmussen is a big time strikeout pitcher. Just not on the level of Hader, but who is? Anyway, great work by Rasmussen who looks like he's starting to develop into a nice 4th option out of the pen after a rough start to the season.

[yourout]

Clutch pitch...... Well done.

[JET15]

I hope we can pick up some ground on STL with a Rockies comeback. It would be sweet to catch them in the standings this week

[Eye Black]

I hope this doesn't come off snarky but please show your data/proof showing that it is statically better to hold Hader for the 10th.

No, I don’t take it as snark. To that point you’re right that I don’t have the probability tables sitting in front of me, but it would be a fascinating analysis to see someone produce. Still, I’m fairly confident a high strikeout and extremely low WHIP pitcher like Hader is much more valuable in a scenario where a runner starts on 2B with no outs versus an inning earlier when no runner starts on base.

 

Anyway, I am glad they pulled it out, a much needed win. Rasmussen did look good as well, so that’s a huge positive.

[adambr2]

I hope this doesn't come off snarky but please show your data/proof showing that it is statically better to hold Hader for the 10th.

No, I don’t take it as snark. To that point you’re right that I don’t have the probability tables sitting in front of me, but it would be a fascinating analysis to see someone produce. Still, I’m fairly confident a high strikeout and extremely low WHIP pitcher like Hader is much more valuable in a scenario where a runner starts on 2B with no outs versus an inning earlier when no runners start on base.

 

Anyway, I am glad they pulled it out, a much needed win.

 

I'm in your camp, but I do feel Rasmussen is probably a solid extra inning option as a 12.5K/9 guy.

 

I still would probably line them up like you do, but I'm a lot more understanding about it than I would be if they used Hader in the 9th and a pitch to contact guy like Eric Yardley in the 10th.

[JET15]

[sarcasm]Brewer's bullpen stinks[/sarcasm]

 

I was surprised to see us ranked 16th for RP in MLB going into today

[markedman5]

Yardley on the IL

[adambr2]

Yardley on the IL

 

Yeah I know. Just using him as an example of who I wouldn't want to see in extras.

[Eye Black]

I'm in your camp, but I do feel Rasmussen is probably a solid extra inning option as a 12.5K/9 guy.

 

I still would probably line them up like you do, but I'm a lot more understanding about it than I would be if they used Hader in the 9th and a pitch to contact guy like Eric Yardley in the 10th.

For sure, Rasmussen is a high strikeout guy as well but obviously a little more hittable. I guess if he develops into a guy you can truly trust in high leverage positions than you’re feeling a lot better about those type of extra inning situations going forward.

[adambr2]

[sarcasm]Brewer's bullpen stinks[/sarcasm]

 

I was surprised to see us ranked 16th for RP in MLB going into today

 

That's about what I'd expect to see right now. The good ones have been generally very good and the bad ones have been very bad.

[markedman5]

[sarcasm]Brewer's bullpen stinks[/sarcasm]

 

I was surprised to see us ranked 16th for RP in MLB going into today

 

Lots of that is skewed by Anderson’s short start game when Lindblom and company got bombed. Probably were 1 or 2 others like that.

 

Our A pen has been great after Williams recovered from his slow start likely due to his lack of spring training work.

 

Formula is clear….. get to the 7th with the lead and you feel.pretty good about your chances.

[RollieTime]

[sarcasm]Brewer's bullpen stinks[/sarcasm]

 

I was surprised to see us ranked 16th for RP in MLB going into today

 

Lindblom gave up 8 ER his last appearance and 13 in his last 4 appearances. Zimmerman gave up 5 ER recently in his appearance. Then you have Bettinger who gave up 11 ER in a 4 inning start which ballooned the SP ERA too.

[markedman5]

Yardley on the IL

 

Yeah I know. Just using him as an example of who I wouldn't want to see in extras.

 

Or in most other innings….am,I right?

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[Eye Black]

The Brewers seem to love producing Mother’s Day Magic. How about a no hitter this year?

Per Adam McCalvy: The Brewers are 33-20 (.623) all-time on Mother's Day, best in MLB.

Would be nice to further improve the left column on that all-time record today.

Brewers improve to 34-20 (.630 winning percentage) all-time on Mother’s Day.

[TURBO]

Garcia was 8/13 his last 4 games, 3/5 last night and has been hot for the last 10 days or so. He just had an off day May 6th too. And found himself on the bench today. The Brewers have an off day tomorrow. Another one of those head scratcher moves by Counsell. The hottest bat on the roster for a team that struggles to score and he finds the bench after just having an off day a couple days earlier and a true off day tomorrow.

 

I know they were facing a lefty today, but it might be wise to keep a left handed bat on the bench for other situations later in the game too instead of putting every single one into the lineup.

 

It’s ridiculous how he does his lineups sometimes. Again, you would think success is rewarded and the manager would want a hot bat in the lineup. It’s like he wants to find a way to cool a bat off.

 

I'm sure it was pre-planned 2 weeks ago that Garcia would get today off, once it is pre-planned, it can't be undone.

 

*sigh*

[adambr2]

Yardley on the IL

 

Yeah I know. Just using him as an example of who I wouldn't want to see in extras.

 

Or in most other innings….am,I right?

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Yes, correct.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

I'm sure it was pre-planned 2 weeks ago that Garcia would get today off, once it is pre-planned, it can't be undone.

 

*sigh*

 

Just a heads up, the Brewers won the game.

[RollieTime]

I'm sure it was pre-planned 2 weeks ago that Garcia would get today off, once it is pre-planned, it can't be undone.

 

*sigh*

 

Just a heads up, the Brewers won the game.

 

That’s completely not the point here at all. The offense struggles to score and players that do well end up finding the bench the next game. That’s like winning a game 10-9 and Yardley gave up 4 runs in the 9th to make it a game and Hader had to come in to finish it out. Can’t say a bad word about Yardley and criticize the performance because we still won.

 

Nottingham was benched after his 2 home run game recently. Hiura had a 2-4 game and smoked the ball 3 times (I believe at Wrigley) and was benched the next game. For being a critical cog in your lineup, a young bat that’s been struggling, and he is benched the day after he’s locked in is asinine. That’s just a couple random ones I can think of currently. It’s bad managing when you remove a hot bat from the lineup intentionally. If he played 15 days in a row, sure. But he just had an off day a couple days earlier too. The Brewers also have an off day tomorrow for him to rest.

[areacodes]

I'm sure it was pre-planned 2 weeks ago that Garcia would get today off, once it is pre-planned, it can't be undone.

 

*sigh*

 

Just a heads up, the Brewers won the game.

 

That’s completely not the point here at all. The offense struggles to score and players that do well end up finding the bench the next game. That’s like winning a game 10-9 and Yardley gave up 4 runs in the 9th to make it a game and Hader had to come in to finish it out. Can’t say a bad word about Yardley and criticize the performance because we still won.

 

Nottingham was benched after his 2 home run game recently. Hiura had a 2-4 game and smoked the ball 3 times (I believe at Wrigley) and was benched the next game. For being a critical cog in your lineup, a young bat that’s been struggling, and he is benched the day after he’s locked in is asinine. That’s just a couple random ones I can think of currently. It’s bad managing when you remove a hot bat from the lineup intentionally. If he played 15 days in a row, sure. But he just had an off day a couple days earlier too. The Brewers also have an off day tomorrow for him to rest.

 

Now do all the times that a player has a big game and is in the lineup the next day.

 

We also don’t know if there is something that was nagging any of these players a bit, if there is something about the starting pitcher match up they don’t like or myriad other reasons that they are out of the lineup.

 

No matter how much people like to complain about it, I don’t think Counsell is looking at a player having a big game and saying - gotta bench him tomorrow so he cools off.