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2021-05-09: Brewers (Anderson) at Marlins (Alcantara) [Brewers win, 2-1 in 10 innings -- Crew improves on league best all-time record on Mother’s Day]


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I’m good with the decision. Urias has been pretty good in clutch situations like that….Brinson has a great arm and Shaw is slow.

 

2 outs you send him….not 1. IMO

 

If Lane would have sent him and he gets thrown out everybody here is roasting him.

 

With 2 outs they're just throwing to 1st.

 

I think most fans understand reasoning behind sending a guy with 1 out. You don't count on getting a 2 out hit unless it's a laser and the guy would be an absolute dead duck.

 

There is almost no downside to sending him. Even if Shaw is thrown out you still have 2 out and 2 on and Urias can still bring in a run with a hit. The upside is you might score and runs are at a premium.

 

It was 100% a bad call.

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I’m good with the decision. Urias has been pretty good in clutch situations like that….Brinson has a great arm and Shaw is slow.

 

2 outs you send him….not 1. IMO

 

If Lane would have sent him and he gets thrown out everybody here is roasting him.

 

With 2 outs they're just throwing to 1st.

 

I think most fans understand reasoning behind sending a guy with 1 out. You don't count on getting a 2 out hit unless it's a laser and the guy would be an absolute dead duck.

 

 

I guess I’m under the thinking that if you’re struggling to score runs and get key hits, then why not try to force the issue? It takes a perfect throw and tag to get him.

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I’m good with the decision. Urias has been pretty good in clutch situations like that….Brinson has a great arm and Shaw is slow.

 

2 outs you send him….not 1. IMO

 

If Lane would have sent him and he gets thrown out everybody here is roasting him.

 

With 2 outs they're just throwing to 1st.

 

I think most fans understand reasoning behind sending a guy with 1 out. You don't count on getting a 2 out hit unless it's a laser and the guy would be an absolute dead duck.

 

 

I guess I’m under the thinking that if you’re struggling to score runs and get key hits, then why not try to force the issue? It takes a perfect throw and tag to get him.

 

Right. I agree with you. You have better odds there of not getting thrown out at home than getting a hit with 2 outs. And a bonus that they don't even retire anyone if you're safe. And even if you get thrown out at home you still have 2 runners on with 2 outs. It was the exact right situation to send a guy.

 

And as it turns out, that decision may loom large today.

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It appears the Brewers are lining Hader up to pitch the 9th in tie game instead of the 10th if they go to extra innings. This will never not be frustrating to me as long as the extra runner rule is in place. Hader should be saved for a situation where he provides a massive advantage to your team due to the new rule.

 

For those that say “you’ve got to get there first”, I think the problem with that argument is the odds of any average reliever pitching a scoreless inning in the 9th is much higher than any average reliever stranding a runner on 2B with no outs in the 10th.

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It appears the Brewers are lining Hader up to pitch the 9th in tie game instead of the 10th if they go to extra innings. This will never not be frustrating to me as long as the extra runner rule is in place. Hader should be saved for a situation where he provides a massive advantage to your team due to the new rule.

 

For those that say “you’ve got to get there first”, I think the problem with that argument is the odds of any average reliever pitching a scoreless inning in the 9th is much higher than any average reliever stranding a runner on 2B with no outs in the 10th.

 

Completely agree with this. Use Hader to your advantage in that situation since he’s a strikeout machine.

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Gotta get to the 10th before anything else.
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Garcia was 8/13 his last 4 games, 3/5 last night and has been hot for the last 10 days or so. He just had an off day May 6th too. And found himself on the bench today. The Brewers have an off day tomorrow. Another one of those head scratcher moves by Counsell. The hottest bat on the roster for a team that struggles to score and he finds the bench after just having an off day a couple days earlier and a true off day tomorrow.

 

I know they were facing a lefty today, but it might be wise to keep a left handed bat on the bench for other situations later in the game too instead of putting every single one into the lineup.

 

It’s ridiculous how he does his lineups sometimes. Again, you would think success is rewarded and the manager would want a hot bat in the lineup. It’s like he wants to find a way to cool a bat off.

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Gotta get to the 10th before anything else.

The problem is that’s more so classic coach-speak than rooted in any actual probability based reasoning. That’s fine if we want to harken back to the days of “go with your gut” coaching, but the truth is the odds were pretty good Rasmussen wouldn’t have given up a run in the 9th inning with no one beginning the inning on base, and now Hader would have a chance to win you the game in the 10th by stranding the runner. The odds of winning would’ve increased significantly in that scenario. Even if Rasmussen blew the game then at least you saved an inning on Hader’s arm.

 

 

...Now lets hope Rasmussen just strikes everyone out anyway.

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Gotta get to the 10th before anything else.

The problem is that’s more so classic coach-speak than rooted in any actual probability based reasoning. That’s fine if we want to harken back to the days of “go with your gut” coaching, but the truth is the odds were pretty good Rasmussen wouldn’t have given up a run in the 9th inning with no one beginning the inning on base, and now Hader would have a chance to win you the game in the 10th by stranding the runner. The odds of winning would’ve increased significantly in that scenario. Even if Rasmussen blew the game then at least you saved an inning on Hader’s arm.

 

 

...Now lets hope Rasmussen just strikes everyone out anyway.

 

I hope this doesn't come off snarky but please show your data/proof showing that it is statically better to hold Hader for the 10th.

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