2021-05-06: Brewers (Woodruff) at Phillies (Wheeler) [Brewers lose, 2-0 -- 5th straight loss for the Crew]

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

So ridiculous that Jesus fell apart for us where they kind of had to let him go. They gave him a really long leash and did all they could, but without an option left they couldn't send him down to clear his head. OF course he figures it out again once he leaves. If he'd have just held on as solid (not his crazy two month level) it would've been such a big help.

 

Also, thoughts on Arcia trade right now since we could be playing him on left side and Shaw at 1B right now?

 

I don't blame them for trading Arcia. They couldn't have foreseen Hiura continuing to be an absolute dumpster fire.

[BruisedCrew]

Well, should be back below .500 by Monday.

 

Unless Burnes is going to come back, the pitching matchups this weekend will be horrible. Rogers and Alcantara are both candidates to shut out this sorry lineup, and the Brewers will be countering with their 4th starter and two scrap heap fill ins against a lineup that did well against the Brewers (including Burnes) last week.

[nate82]

So ridiculous that Jesus fell apart for us where they kind of had to let him go. They gave him a really long leash and did all they could, but without an option left they couldn't send him down to clear his head. OF course he figures it out again once he leaves. If he'd have just held on as solid (not his crazy two month level) it would've been such a big help.

 

Also, thoughts on Arcia trade right now since we could be playing him on left side and Shaw at 1B right now?

 

Moving Shaw from 3B to 1B just means he sucks playing at 1B than him playing at 3B. Just musical chairs at this point.

[Hopper]

Would Arcia playing 3B really be helping us?

At all?

It's so bad we are now second guessing dumping a no offense player that could help this offense?

So sad.

[SRB]

You know things are bleak when we are earnestly wanting Orlando Arcia back to play 3B as way to help the offense (?!)

[brooks_quichenick]

Who can we jettison from the 40-man to make room for Zach Green. Cannot be any worse than what we've got at the corners right now.

[adambr2]

Who can we jettison from the 40-man to make room for Zach Green. Cannot be any worse than what we've got at the corners right now.

 

Take your pick. Reyes. Vogelbach. Robertson. Jace Peterson. Fisher. Maile. Godley. Zimmerman. Lindblom. Yardley. At least 25% of our 40 man roster is organizational fodder that could be DFAed tomorrow and their contributions would never be missed. Frankly, I left out a lot of guys that could probably be included. Nottingham for instance, who has been DFAed twice himself in the last month and by very definition probably fits into that category of guys.

 

It has to be the shallowest 40 man roster of any club that realistically expects to contend. There are 4 or 5 pitchers on this roster, mostly holdovers or trades from before Stearns was even here, that are the difference between us being an expected contender and one of the worst franchises in baseball.

[brooks_quichenick]

Who can we jettison from the 40-man to make room for Zach Green. Cannot be any worse than what we've got at the corners right now.

 

Take your pick. Reyes. Vogelbach. Robertson. Jace Peterson. Fisher. Maile. Godley. Zimmerman. Lindblom. Yardley. At least 25% of our 40 man roster is organizational fodder that could be DFAed tomorrow and their contributions would never be missed. Frankly, I left out a lot of guys that could probably be included. Nottingham for instance, who has been DFAed twice himself in the last month and by very definition probably fits into that category of guys.

 

It has to be the shallowest 40 man roster of any club that realistically expects to contend. There are 4 or 5 pitchers on this roster, mostly holdovers or trades from before Stearns was even here, that are the difference between us being an expected contender and one of the worst franchises in baseball.

 

I think the fact that we're 17-15 despite 15 players from our 40-man being on the injured list shows that actually, this might be one of the deeper 40-man rosters of any club in MLB. Most teams have lots of "organizational fodder" filling out their 40-man. With that said, I won't be heartbroken when Zimmermann retires or Godley/Vogelbach are DFA'd to make room for a Zach Green.

[adambr2]

Who can we jettison from the 40-man to make room for Zach Green. Cannot be any worse than what we've got at the corners right now.

 

Take your pick. Reyes. Vogelbach. Robertson. Jace Peterson. Fisher. Maile. Godley. Zimmerman. Lindblom. Yardley. At least 25% of our 40 man roster is organizational fodder that could be DFAed tomorrow and their contributions would never be missed. Frankly, I left out a lot of guys that could probably be included. Nottingham for instance, who has been DFAed twice himself in the last month and by very definition probably fits into that category of guys.

 

It has to be the shallowest 40 man roster of any club that realistically expects to contend. There are 4 or 5 pitchers on this roster, mostly holdovers or trades from before Stearns was even here, that are the difference between us being an expected contender and one of the worst franchises in baseball.

 

I think the fact that we're 17-15 despite 15 players from our 40-man being on the injured list shows that actually, this might be one of the deeper 40-man rosters of any club in MLB. Most teams have lots of "organizational fodder" filling out their 40-man. With that said, I won't be heartbroken when Zimmermann retires or Godley/Vogelbach are DFA'd to make room for a Zach Green.

 

I think we're 17-15 because we got really lucky in April and we have some really awesome pitchers who have still been generally healthy.

 

It isn't a testament to our depth. Our depth has stunk when needed and the lack of good depth is why we are losing games. Reyes has stunk. Bettinger has stunk. Godley stunk. Zimmerman stunk. Maile stinks. Vogelbach stinks. The only piece of depth that has remotely been any good stepping up is Taylor and to some extent, Lauer.

[brooks_quichenick]

I think the fact that we're 17-15 despite 15 players from our 40-man being on the injured list shows that actually, this might be one of the deeper 40-man rosters of any club in MLB. Most teams have lots of "organizational fodder" filling out their 40-man. With that said, I won't be heartbroken when Zimmermann retires or Godley/Vogelbach are DFA'd to make room for a Zach Green.

 

I think we're 17-15 because we got really lucky in April and we have some really awesome pitchers who have still been generally healthy.

 

It isn't a testament to our depth. Our depth has stunk when needed and the lack of good depth is why we are losing games. Reyes has stunk. Bettinger has stunk. Godley stunk. Zimmerman stunk. Maile stinks. Vogelbach stinks. The only piece of depth that has remotely been any good stepping up is Taylor and to some extent, Lauer.

 

Ok, well I suppose if you want to look at it glass half empty that's fine, but on the other hand, if the only reason we're 17-15 is because we got really lucky in April, than haven't we just been really unlucky in May? We've lost 5 in a row, 4 of which were extremely close games where the starting pitching faltered a little bit and the offense couldn't quite make up for it. The sky is not falling. The 2018 Brewers lost 5 in a row in Pittsburgh and we all panicked, then they ended up being extremely good.

[adambr2]

I think the fact that we're 17-15 despite 15 players from our 40-man being on the injured list shows that actually, this might be one of the deeper 40-man rosters of any club in MLB. Most teams have lots of "organizational fodder" filling out their 40-man. With that said, I won't be heartbroken when Zimmermann retires or Godley/Vogelbach are DFA'd to make room for a Zach Green.

 

I think we're 17-15 because we got really lucky in April and we have some really awesome pitchers who have still been generally healthy.

 

It isn't a testament to our depth. Our depth has stunk when needed and the lack of good depth is why we are losing games. Reyes has stunk. Bettinger has stunk. Godley stunk. Zimmerman stunk. Maile stinks. Vogelbach stinks. The only piece of depth that has remotely been any good stepping up is Taylor and to some extent, Lauer.

 

Ok, well I suppose if you want to look at it glass half empty that's fine, but on the other hand, if the only reason we're 17-15 is because we got really lucky in April, than haven't we just been really unlucky in May? We've lost 5 in a row, 4 of which were extremely close games where the starting pitching faltered a little bit and the offense couldn't quite make up for it. The sky is not falling. The 2018 Brewers lost 5 in a row in Pittsburgh and we all panicked, then they ended up being extremely good.

 

I never said the sky is falling, and I agree we have been unlucky in May and aren't as bad as the results have been the last 5 games. I just said the depth on our 40 really sucks.

[xisxisxis]

Well there's a bit of regressing to the mean going on in May. The question is where is the mean? Based on their RS/RA they are expected to be a 15-17 team. While Expected W/L is noisy over small samples and 32 is pretty small, there is enough underlying data that indicates that might be an accurate mean for the team (a sub .500 performance). Given the number of players on the IL I expect that the mean is more likely a 500 to better team that will go as far as the pitching takes them. They could still be a playoff team if the offense can come close to being average, but if it continues to be pretty bad this could be a 500 team even with 2 TOR pitchers. Hopefully the next 1-2 weeks will be the low point for the season.

[mtrebs]

Well there's a bit of regressing to the mean going on in May. The question is where is the mean? Based on their RS/RA they are expected to be a 15-17 team. While Expected W/L is noisy over small samples and 32 is pretty small, there is enough underlying data that indicates that might be an accurate mean for the team (a sub .500 performance). Given the number of players on the IL I expect that the mean is more likely a 500 to better team that will go as far as the pitching takes them. They could still be a playoff team if the offense can come close to being average, but if it continues to be pretty bad this could be a 500 team even with 2 TOR pitchers. Hopefully the next 1-2 weeks will be the low point for the season.

 

This is why I was so disappointed they didn’t sign any decent bats this off-season. Like 2020 they are depending on a lot of subpar players and it’s not going well. With even a mediocre offense this team could be quite good. Doesn’t help that Yelich is injured and lost his power even when playing and that Hiura forgot how to hit. The offense these two years reminds me of the early 2000’s meager years.

[Pugger]

Well there's a bit of regressing to the mean going on in May. The question is where is the mean? Based on their RS/RA they are expected to be a 15-17 team. While Expected W/L is noisy over small samples and 32 is pretty small, there is enough underlying data that indicates that might be an accurate mean for the team (a sub .500 performance). Given the number of players on the IL I expect that the mean is more likely a 500 to better team that will go as far as the pitching takes them. They could still be a playoff team if the offense can come close to being average, but if it continues to be pretty bad this could be a 500 team even with 2 TOR pitchers. Hopefully the next 1-2 weeks will be the low point for the season.

 

This is why I was so disappointed they didn’t sign any decent bats this off-season. Like 2020 they are depending on a lot of subpar players and it’s not going well. With even a mediocre offense this team could be quite good. Doesn’t help that Yelich is injured and lost his power even when playing and that Hiura forgot how to hit. The offense these two years reminds me of the early 2000’s meager years.

 

How could we have known this past offseason Yelich would be out for most of the first 5 weeks and Hiura forgot how to hit so was sent to the minors? It hasn't helped to lose our starting and backup catcher either. Another blow was losing Burnes on top of it all. Now we have to start Suter instead today. Let's hope it won't be too long before we get some of these key players back and right this ship...