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2021-05-03: Brewers (Houser) at Phillies (Velazquez) [Brewers lose, 4-3; Cain & Yelich return from IL]

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RollieTime First Round Pick

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And this is why our non every day guys are just roster filler and we struggle to have a consistent offense. That’s why so many guys struggle and it’s been a fairly consistent issue the last few seasons outside of Yelich, Cain, Moose, and Grandal.

 

Refusing to play a hot hand is plain dumb. The guy doesn’t need to be an everyday player, but should be playing consistently if he’s hitting the ball well. Once they revert back and go 0-7 over a two game stretch sit him. But deliberately taking them out of the lineup, messing with their routine, and not riding a hot bat truly is bad managing.

 

agreed 100%.

 

I just want to add that Urias has been playing very consistently and is playing well this season. Narvaez was getting every day playing time and has been smoking the ball all season.

 

Sometimes platoons make sense, but over half a roster of it doesn’t seem to work. And quite honestly hasn’t worked well, but we continue to do it.

 

It might make sense in theory to do it, but the results I don’t think have been there. Certainly not this year or last year. What were the results of the platoon guys in 2019 or 2018?

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I call a website trash. I do a very simple one minute trade using the values from the website I call trash filling needs of both teams within a couple million in value that is clearly one sided to anyone looking at it to illustrate that the website is trash and shouldn't be used in any sort of way to determine any potential trade (like Boyd and Fulmer for Turang and Lindblom) and now you don't like it.

 

There are many imperfections with the website but calling it trash based on an inability to assign accurate values to players with extreme long-term 9 figure contracts is just lazy and nonsensical. If there's a good way to value such players please explain; there just isn't. That's why such players being traded really only happen under extreme circumstances and usually involve less than top prospects and large sums of money being exchanged.

 

Yes, you do have to exercise some degree of common sense and trying to determine fair value for guys like Yelich, Cole, Rendon, Lindor, etc, isn't going to be a productive exercise.

 

Okay but I also traded our two ace caliber pitchers for a 24 year old 2B and two offensive prospects which the website considered fair value, when it's clearly not. It's not just 9 figure contracts that can give you values that are clearly way off base or "trash" if you will.

 

Another one. Corbin Burnes and Luis Urias for Luis Castillo. Would you do it? It's fair value according to that site.

 

Think we could get Ryan McMahon for Drew Rasmussen or Eric Lauer right now?

 

No. That's why I do think there are a lot of crap individual valuations, but I don't think the site is necessarily crap for it. What they're attempting to do is almost impossible. It hasn't been done better by anyone else.

 

I do think Burnes is criminally undervalued, but I'm sure they're still hedging based off '19. Woodruff seems about right. I certainly wouldn't do both starters for Albies, but he is really good and cheap for a long time.

 

It's just impossible to value every single MLB player in a way that isn't questionable on many fronts.

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"Best case scenario short of a base hit."

 

No, Bill, not at all.

 

That reminds me when I was in college and took a PE class. We had the baseball coach as our teacher and were in the baseball portion of the course. He asked what is the role of a hitter. I mentioned to get on safely and he said I was wrong. He said it is to advance a runner at whatever cost.

 

The baseball team sucked and I could figure out why.

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It hasn't been done better by anyone else.

 

Because it's not really worth doing for just the common fan because player values change all the time, teams may think they can make an adjustment to make a player more valuable, there may be a bidding war so a player you think may have a certain value goes for much more. It's completely pointless to use that website as any sort of evaluation tool for a potential trade because of all those things that lead to values being so far off in a ton of cases.

 

Like I'm not even trying hard to make these clearly lopsided trades and ending up within a couple million on it's surplus value scale.

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"Best case scenario short of a base hit."

 

No, Bill, not at all.

 

What would have been better, a little league inside the park grand slam?

Walk to score a run and keep the bases loaded with no outs?

 

That, a HBP, a fly ball that allows the runner on 1st to advance too.

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Can’t wait till Garcia is off this team. What a terrible signing and waste of money.

 

Glad I'm not alone, take JBJ with him.

 

20 million we could have spent on a real 1B or SP...

"I'm sick of runnin' from these wimps!" Ajax - The WARRIORS
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