Packer's NFL Prediction Poll

[PeaveyFury]

Ok, if drafts only count for one year, 2020 was a fiasco. Thankfully fans aren't in charge of our drafts.

 

Love and Dillon were clearly drafted for the future and not 2020. Sometimes that is necessary. You didn't like it, but it doesn't make it a fiasco overall since the players don't have 1 year careers.

 

Yep on all accounts. The fans who don't see the big picture with the 2020 draft are mostly the same ones that were still complaining about the Gary pick early last season, complained about trading up to get Savage, and who had never even heard of Jenkins prior to his selection. All Gute has done is prove them wrong, yet they still think they get the draft better than he does for some reason. At some point, you'd think Gute would get the benefit of the doubt.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Ok, if drafts only count for one year, 2020 was a fiasco. Thankfully fans aren't in charge of our drafts.

 

Love and Dillon were clearly drafted for the future and not 2020. Sometimes that is necessary. You didn't like it, but it doesn't make it a fiasco overall since the players don't have 1 year careers.

 

Yet here we are with the team's #1 RB signed to an extension. Dillon will make a fine #2 during his next 3 year tenure. If I draft a RB in 2021 am I not drafting for the future? RBs are easily replaceable. Team had 2 quality RBs, not 1 or 0. What Gutey did was guarantee his first 2 picks were not going to see the field without injury. Your comment acts like if I were making the draft selection that player wouldn't have a future on the team. My thought process is that with a 2nd rd pick Im drafting a player that should fill a need in that season. Dillon and Love were neither. As to Deguara another RB/TE hybrid. So we needed him why? Tonyan, Sternberger, Williams, Jones, and Lewis? Yeah he got injured by 2nd game but tell me where are these snaps he was going to play without a major injury as #4 behind both RB and TE. Wheres the logic in this draft when your rookies make the biggest impact of any major sport the same year drafted?

 

I've always felt that good, well-run teams should never feel obligated to use the draft to acquire multiple 1st year starters/high-end contributors. The Packers have long had a draft-and-develop philosophy, and while they may have failed to get to the Super Bowl "promised land", that philosophy has led to long-term success for the most part. I have no problem with the Dillon pick, despite Jones re-signing, because the idea of a bell-cow NFL back is antiquated and nearly dead. Most every successful team has two if not 3 backs that they rotate.

 

As for Deguara, I think Lafleur and Gute fell in love with the idea of having their own version of Kyle Juszczyk. And considering the 49ers just recently decided to pay that 30-year-old FB $27 million over the next 5 years, it is obvious that there are certain schemes where that position is highly valued.

[CheeseheadInQC]

As to Deguara another RB/TE hybrid. So we needed him why? Tonyan, Sternberger, Williams, Jones, and Lewis? Yeah he got injured by 2nd game but tell me where are these snaps he was going to play without a major injury as #4 behind both RB and TE. Wheres the logic in this draft when your rookies make the biggest impact of any major sport the same year drafted?

You know all those snaps Dafney was getting toward the end of the year? Deguara probably gets those much of the season. Like I said, criticize position or player if you want, but snap count? No. Also, setting aside the Love pick, which is a whole different discussion, how many guys available at the Packers picks would have been significant upgrades last season? Half dozen, maybe?

[homer]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

[CheezWizHed]

Ok, if drafts only count for one year, 2020 was a fiasco. Thankfully fans aren't in charge of our drafts.

 

Love and Dillon were clearly drafted for the future and not 2020. Sometimes that is necessary. You didn't like it, but it doesn't make it a fiasco overall since the players don't have 1 year careers.

 

Yet here we are with the team's #1 RB signed to an extension. Dillon will make a fine #2 during his next 3 year tenure. If I draft a RB in 2021 am I not drafting for the future? RBs are easily replaceable. Team had 2 quality RBs, not 1 or 0. What Gutey did was guarantee his first 2 picks were not going to see the field without injury. Your comment acts like if I were making the draft selection that player wouldn't have a future on the team. My thought process is that with a 2nd rd pick Im drafting a player that should fill a need in that season. Dillon and Love were neither. As to Deguara another RB/TE hybrid. So we needed him why? Tonyan, Sternberger, Williams, Jones, and Lewis? Yeah he got injured by 2nd game but tell me where are these snaps he was going to play without a major injury as #4 behind both RB and TE. Wheres the logic in this draft when your rookies make the biggest impact of any major sport the same year drafted?

 

I've always felt that good, well-run teams should never feel obligated to use the draft to acquire multiple 1st year starters/high-end contributors. The Packers have long had a draft-and-develop philosophy, and while they may have failed to get to the Super Bowl "promised land", that philosophy has led to long-term success for the most part. I have no problem with the Dillon pick, despite Jones re-signing, because the idea of a bell-cow NFL back is antiquated and nearly dead. Most every successful team has two if not 3 backs that they rotate.

 

As for Deguara, I think Lafleur and Gute fell in love with the idea of having their own version of Kyle Juszczyk. And considering the 49ers just recently decided to pay that 30-year-old FB $27 million over the next 5 years, it is obvious that there are certain schemes where that position is highly valued.

 

There were no guarantees that Jones would resign. But even with him here, Dillon is going to get a lot of work this year (and would've been more useful last year if it wasn't for his COVID "injury"). I'd imagine we will draft another RB in 2021 because we only have two legit RBs on the roster. Normally want 3-4 for depth.

 

Thankfully, we didn't didn't have much for injuries at QB or RB, but you can't count on that this year. I'd imagine Boyle was probably "saved" by the lack of preseason as they didn't want to chance going with an unproven Love at backup. But having a decent backup QB is normally important.

 

As others have said, being able to draft for depth and the future is how teams win long term. Sure, I was disappointed and wanted flashier picks, but there are reasons we are sitting on a forum and not employed by the NFL.

[CheezWizHed]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

 

I wouldn't be shocked. Hopefully with a 6th or 7th and not sooner. Of course, the punter's importance is greatly reduced in this era of going for 4th downs more often... maybe keep drafting offense instead.

 

I saw one one mock draft that had us drafting a new long snapper... That I hope to avoid (find a replacement if needed, but not draft one).

[nodakfan17]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

 

I wouldn't be shocked. Hopefully with a 6th or 7th and not sooner. Of course, the punter's importance is greatly reduced in this era of going for 4th downs more often... maybe keep drafting offense instead.

 

I saw one one mock draft that had us drafting a new long snapper... That I hope to avoid (find a replacement if needed, but not draft one).

Same - neither would bother me if they’re drafted in the 6th round or later

[bjkrautk]

 

I saw one one mock draft that had us drafting a new long snapper... That I hope to avoid (find a replacement if needed, but not draft one).

 

Apparently, there's a long snapper named "Cheeseman" (not 100% on the spelling, and I'm not going to look it up). Put me down for GB-native Cole Van Lanen in the 7th round over a writer having fun with a name (if that's the LS named in the mock draft, of course).

[LouisEly]

There were no guarantees that Jones would resign.

Hell, once he signed with Rosenhaus that statement was pie in the sky optimism - how many people thought that when he signed with Rosenhaus he was as good as gone?

 

The pandemic and resulting drop in the salary cap is probably the only reason he's still a Packer.

[MrTPlush]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

 

Isn't the current punter a draft pick, even worse a former 5th?

 

I suppose they could as 7th round picks are usually garbage anyway...but I am willing to bet a 5th won't be used on the position again any time soon.

[LouisEly]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

Gutes doesn't like to draft a guy unless he has a decent chance of making the roster; he doesn't like to spend draft picks on camp competition.

 

With a new special teams coordinator, who had success in the past working with Pat McAfee and Rigoberto Sanchez, I think they try a different approach before a different punter. Scott has been among the league leaders in hangtime and lowest % of punts returned; the potential is there, and his past STC's have left a lot to be desired. Plus, they already have a second punter on the roster.

[areacodes]

Is there somewhere that shows you expected results from a draft pick, by either round or spot? I.E. first round picks turn into first year starter x percentage of the time, 2nd round pick as contributed, etc.

 

I see people always saying, you can’t draft a RB you don’t plan to use as a starter in the second round (when referring to Dillon) but how realistic is it to actually expect a starter with your 2nd round pick?

[PinaMadness]

Can I select another option, like say, trading Rodgers for three firsts and two seconds?

[CheezWizHed]

Can I select another option, like say, trading Rodgers for three firsts and two seconds?

 

That doesn't explain what we do with our first.

[CheezWizHed]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

 

Isn't the current punter a draft pick, even worse a former 5th?

 

I suppose they could as 7th round picks are usually garbage anyway...but I am willing to bet a 5th won't be used on the position again any time soon.

 

What'd you say?

[PinaMadness]

Does anybody think the Packers take a punter at some point?

 

Isn't the current punter a draft pick, even worse a former 5th?

 

I suppose they could as 7th round picks are usually garbage anyway...but I am willing to bet a 5th won't be used on the position again any time soon.

 

What'd you say?

Key word is "usually".

[CheezWizHed]

Key word is "usually".

 

Yeah I know. And I probably picked the top 7th round pick the Packers ever had. But it is also why you don't just throw them away either.

[nodakfan17]

Key word is "usually".

 

Yeah I know. And I probably picked the top 7th round pick the Packers ever had. But it is also why you don't just throw them away either.

Scott Wells and Mark Tauscher we’re both 7th rounders too. That was a pretty good run between 1999 and 2004.

[nodakfan17]

I predict the Packers trade up 10 spots in the second round to acquire a potential starting RT.

[HiAndTight]

I predict the Packers trade up 10 spots in the second round to acquire a potential starting RT.

 

 

That could certainly happen and is probably a good guess based on their history...but there are probably 7 or 8 really athletic Tackles still available and I think a couple of them could make it to the end of the second. Someone like Radunz will likely be gone, as will Jenkins, but Little, Cosmi, Brown, Mayfield, all fit the Packers scheme pretty well and at least one should still be around.

 

I just hope they view Tackle as a need. Even if they THINK Nijman is finally ready to break out, they could certainly use a swing tackle given the questions about Bahk(though he did look pretty good while screwing around with Rodgers with the boxing).

[nodakfan17]

I predict the Packers trade up 10 spots in the second round to acquire a potential starting RT.

So much for yesterday’s prediction.

 

They’ve got to add an OT sometime today, right?