2021-04-20: Brewers (Burnes) at Padres (Paddack) [Brewers win, 6-0 -- Burnes reaches 40 strikeouts without issuing a walk to start the season, the new major league record for a starter]

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Hiura and Gyorko should switch places.

[Eye Black]

Grisham definitely played that one up for the home crowd.

 

How? Looks like he ran, jumped, and caught it.

How? Well he jogged the last 25 feet, did a stutter step, then did a couple of quicker strides and jumped. Go back and watch it in real-time again, it’s fairly obvious it was never in doubt.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The how did they not properly value him was a rhetorical question...as in how the hell could they have misjudged the trade this badly.

 

I think declaring that they "misjudged" that trade is vastly premature. I don't have a ton of hope for Lauer, but Davies pitched one decent year for the Padres, and then was basically used as a throw-in arm in the Darvish deal. I think that part right now is pretty much a wash. In the end, it'll come down to Urias vs. Grisham. That will be a fun one to follow ... but I don't think any sort of determination can be made on who got the better end until at least 3-4 seasons from now. Both guys are still in the infancy of their MLB careers.

[JackNicholson1974]

While I’m not giving up on Urias, yet, I don’t know that anyone would call Davies for Lauer a wash. Davies doesn’t need to set the world on fire to be much more valuable than Lauer has shown to be thus far.

[Eye Black]

I think you took that a bit too literal. The theme is defense up and down our roster. They wanted to help save runs this season. JBJ will have his streaks and will be just fine for the Brewers.

A 5’7” Hiura with a Vogelbach up at 1B blows up that defense first theory. Getting rid of Arica for potential fringe arms does too.

Except it isn’t an all or nothing situation. You can be weak at some spots and strong at others and still be a net positive. As pointed out by others earlier today, the Brewers currently lead MLB in Defensive Runs Saved with 14 which is 5 better than the next best major league team.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

If you're asking me to start a team from scratch and one of the choices is Urias or Grisham, I'm taking Grisham every time and it's not close. But the Brewers have absolutely nothing going on in the infield, Arcia was not panning out, so taking that chance made more sense for them in that context.

[yourout]

Padres are good at running up the pitch count.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

While I’m not giving up on Urias, yet, I don’t know that anyone would call Davies for Lauer a wash. Davies doesn’t need to set the world on fire to be much more valuable than Lauer has shown to be thus far.

 

Davies was better but no one's really going to care in the end. He would be what, a 5th starter on the team today, and nobody will bemoan the loss of a 180 lb soft tosser years down the road. It's fair to say Urias/Grisham is what will define it as good or bad.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

While I’m not giving up on Urias, yet, I don’t know that anyone would call Davies for Lauer a wash. Davies doesn’t need to set the world on fire to be much more valuable than Lauer has shown to be thus far.

 

Except Davies is no longer Padre property, so he can no longer provide value for them. I don't consider Darvish added value for Davies, because everyone knows that the Darvish deal was a salary dump. Lauer is still Brewer property, and is under cheap control for several more seasons, so there is still perceived future value there.

[folly412]

This McKinney guy ain't half bad.

[pacopete4]

Trade Yelich, start McKinney.

[markedman5]

McKinney has been a nice acquisition

[JET15]

McKinney Fanclub is growing again tonight

[brooks_quichenick]

McKinney’s really got a sweet swing

[yourout]

McKinney has solid mechanics.

Some of the best on the team

[JET15]

Trade Yelich, start McKinney.

 

Blue?

[Eye Black]

I think there’s a non-zero chance Billy McKinney is a part-time first baseman at some point this season.

[Jopal78]

Finally, one of the former Top 100 prospects picked up by Milwaukee has something to offer. Now if they can just quit D-Rob

[yourout]

Burns really smashed that one

[pacopete4]

Trade Yelich, start McKinney.

 

Blue?

 

No, because we also have a HOF talent in Taylor on our bench as well.

[yourout]

Vogelbach should have a beer named after him.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

If you're asking me to start a team from scratch and one of the choices is Urias or Grisham, I'm taking Grisham every time and it's not close. But the Brewers have absolutely nothing going on in the infield, Arcia was not panning out, so taking that chance made more sense for them in that context.

 

I think that if you are viewing their value right now, this second, most would agree. But at the time of the deal, I'd say their perceived values were much closer. In fact, given his hyped prospect pedigree and the fact that he plays a higher value position, Urias probably had a higher future value at the time of the trade. I remember quite a bit of talk that the Brewers ended up with the highest valued piece in the whole deal. Urias was very recently a Top 20-30 MLB prospect, and Grisham had never sniffed that.

 

Grisham obviously looked better last year. He looked better in 2019 in his debut as a Brewer as well. But all things being equal, if I'm starting a team from scratch, the CFer better be really good to beat out the uber-prospect SS

[markedman5]

Good move Lane

[homer]

Garcia needs about an 8 pitch AB so Burnes can catch his breath

[Eye Black]

Trade Yelich, start McKinney.

 

Blue?

 

No, because we also have a HOF talent in Taylor on our bench as well.

And don’t forget Braun is probably coming back in July.