Brewers' Offense

[MrTPlush]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration. Don't you think there is a reason the Padres didn't care that they were giving up a players with a better minor league track record and gave up a pitcher with 3x the control Davies had? That is right, it looks like there talent evaluation was miles and leaps above ours. Much like us when we traded for Yelich.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

 

I highly doubt the Brewers front office is worried about the "so far" portion of this deal.

[MrTPlush]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

 

I highly doubt the Brewers front office is worried about the "so far" portion of this deal.

 

I bet he is. You don't think the Brewers care they traded away a guy who has OPS'd .822 for another team while winning a gold glove? The same time we have trotted out 2020 Garcia and now Bradley Jr.? I bet he is just as concerned about the 'to be determined' part because that also doesn't look especially bright for us compared to the Padres.

 

I hope Stearns is sitting in his office trying to figure out where they went wrong on this one because I don't think they expected the current results of Urias/Grisham.

 

And I say 'so far' because things could change...maybe not overly likely the tables turn, but it could. Urias is still young and Grisham is far from proven still. I am not going to sit here and say this trade is definitively the worst trade ever because there are still many years to see where all the chips fall. However, if we waited 7 years to discuss a move this site would be a bit boring.

[homer]

 

chronic?

 

Yeah, he's dealt with it since the minor leagues. This spring he said it 'pops up once or twice a year'. That's literally the definition of chronic.

 

So are you saying they should not have signed him to an extension because of a "chronic" issue that until this year never landed him on the disabled list?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

 

I highly doubt the Brewers front office is worried about the "so far" portion of this deal.

 

I bet he is. You don't think the Brewers care they traded away a guy who has OPS'd .822 for another team while winning a gold glove? The same time we have trotted out 2020 Garcia and now Bradley Jr.? I bet he is just as concerned about the 'to be determined' part because that also doesn't look especially bright for us compared to the Padres.

 

I hope Stearns is sitting in his office trying to figure out where they went wrong on this one because I don't think they expected the current results of Urias/Grisham.

 

And I say 'so far' because things could change...maybe not overly likely the tables turn, but it could. Urias is still young and Grisham is far from proven still. I am not going to sit here and say this trade is definitively the worst trade ever because there are still many years to see where all the chips fall. However, if we waited 7 years to discuss a move this site would be a bit boring.

 

I doubt anyone in the Brewers front office was expecting a 22-year-old Urias to come in and immediately make a major impact. If they were, they wouldn't have hung on to Arcia as long as they did. That was very much a "for the future" type of deal.

 

And I'd argue that the "to be determined" part looks a heck of alot more even now than it did at the end of last season, as Lauer now looks like he could be a legit MLB pitcher, and Zach Davies is now throwing junk balls for the Cubs after being included as little more than a throw-in in the Darvish deal.

 

Truth is, I'll admit I'm looking at this deal through Brewer goggles, as it's going to really suck if Grisham turns out to be a superstar, while Urias turns out to be your typical no-hit middle infielder.

[trwi7]

Minor League Statistics:

 

Trent Grisham

1929 PAs, 1590 ABs

 

AVG/OBP/OPS: .255/.376/.791

2B: 75

3B: 22

HR: 45

RBI: 192

SB: 91

BB: 304

 

That's great if you just ignore one giant piece of the puzzle.

 

After becoming a professional, the left-handed-hitting Grisham was encouraged to use the more conventional wrap-around grip, which coaches considered necessary to fully develop a power stroke. Grisham dutifully did so, and struggled at low Class A Wisconsin in 2016 and again at high Class A Carolina in 2017.

 

Finally, while playing for Class AA Biloxi last season, Grisham had enough of doing it “their” way.

 

What was the breaking point in returning to the “thumbs-up” grip?

 

“I struck out on a pitch down the middle from a former teammate, and it just made me so mad and fed up with what I was doing,” Grisham said.

 

That former teammate was Jordan Yamamoto, one of four prospects the Brewers traded to Miami on Jan. 25, 2018, for outfielder Christian Yelich, who would go on to become the National League most valuable player that season. Grisham decided if he was going to sink or swim as a struggling first-round pick, he was going to do it his way.

 

“I was done doing things the way everybody wanted me to,” he said. “I just wanted to go back to what felt comfortable for me. I didn’t really ask. I just did it. (Brewers minor-league hitting coordinator) Kenny (Graham) didn’t really know I used to do that.

 

“It was a decision I made for myself. I ended the year well; I know that.”

 

Returning to Biloxi this season, Grisham finally began to take off as a hitter, particularly on the power front, proving his bat grip would not stop him from hitting home runs. In 63 games with the Shuckers, he batted .254 with a .371 on-base percentage, .875 OPS, 13 home runs and 44 RBI.

 

Figuring he was ready for the Class AAA level, the Brewers promoted Grisham to San Antonio, where he basically went nuts at the plate. In 34 games with the Missions, he batted .381 with a .471 OBP and 1.247 OPS, with 13 homers and 30 RBI.

 

With a total of 26 homers in 370 at-bats, there were no longer concerns that Grisham’s unique bat grip would compromise his power. And he increased his pop without losing the plate discipline he exhibited throughout the minors, drawing 67 walks while striking out only 72 times.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2019/08/08/brewers-trent-grisham-got-career-back-track-returning-unusual-grip/1951914001/

 

His last 30 games in 2017 he hit .288/.363/.486, went back and had another strong half season at Biloxi and then demolished AAA and got called up. He's hit since he went back to the grip that made him a 1st round pick in the first place.

[timpep]

 

chronic?

 

Yeah, he's dealt with it since the minor leagues. This spring he said it 'pops up once or twice a year'. That's literally the definition of chronic.

 

So are you saying they should not have signed him to an extension because of a "chronic" issue that until this year never landed him on the disabled list?

 

I don't get paid millions of dollars to research and make that decision. I'm saying I don't give Stearns a free pass on everything just because Yelich is hurt, especially since chronic back issues that start in your early 20's tend to get worse as you age.

 

edit- I'll add that I absolutely consider an oblique to be a back related injury.

[Warning Track Power]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration. Don't you think there is a reason the Padres didn't care that they were giving up a players with a better minor league track record and gave up a pitcher with 3x the control Davies had? That is right, it looks like there talent evaluation was miles and leaps above ours. Much like us when we traded for Yelich.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

I get the frustration when Urias has not performed to the levels he showed in the Minors but talent evaluation is obviously based somewhat on MiLB performance. Additionally, roster construction has to be taken into account. SD had Machado at 3B, Tatis at SS, Hosmer at 1B, and a super-utility guy like Croenenworth to play 2B. The Brewers had Yelich, Cain and Braun in the OF and Arcia at SS. They dealt from a strength similar to the Brewers.

 

It has only been 212 ABs from Urias in a Brewer uniform and obviously Grisham has fared better in SD, but the immediate gratification needed to evaluate the trade to declare a winner and a loser is not warranted at this point. If in, say July 2022, Urias and Grisham appear to be the same, then yes it is likely a trade loss but it is still way too early to declare a winner/loser.

[adambr2]

I doubt anyone in the Brewers front office was expecting a 22-year-old Urias to come in and immediately make a major impact. If they were, they wouldn't have hung on to Arcia as long as they did. That was very much a "for the future" type of deal.

 

And I'd argue that the "to be determined" part looks a heck of alot more even now than it did at the end of last season, as Lauer now looks like he could be a legit MLB pitcher, and Zach Davies is now throwing junk balls for the Cubs after being included as little more than a throw-in in the Darvish deal.

 

Truth is, I'll admit I'm looking at this deal through Brewer goggles, as it's going to really suck if Grisham turns out to be a superstar, while Urias turns out to be your typical no-hit middle infielder.

 

Grisham is 6 months older than Urias and seems to be making an impact just fine. Players are playing at a high level at younger and younger ages.

 

I doubt they expected Urias to be an immediate star, but I think they at least he'd be able to immediately improve upon our previous SS production.

 

And two points on Davies:

 

1) He's a notoriously slow starter who had a horrific April and looked much better since.

 

2) You can't fairly even downgrade the trade for the Padres for whatever Davies does now. They got a great year out of him and then turned around and flipped him as part of a deal for Yu Darvish. Davies was an important part of that deal, not a throw in. They're knocking this trade out of the park. Whatever Davies does now has zero impact on the Padres.

[MrTPlush]

It has only been 212 ABs from Urias in a Brewer uniform and obviously Grisham has fared better in SD, but the immediate gratification needed to evaluate the trade to declare a winner and a loser is not warranted at this point. If in, say July 2022, Urias and Grisham appear to be the same, then yes it is likely a trade loss but it is still way too early to declare a winner/loser.

 

The Padres already have 4 WAR from Grisham and got 1.5 WAR plus trade value from Davies.

 

Urias and Lauer have combined for -0.3 WAR.

 

I agree it is too early, but it has started so bad it would have to take one heck of a turn to make this trade closer at this rate. I will keep hoping Urias become a plus bat at SS, but until then...yikes, I really hope this doesn't end a giant fail all around for us. Especially when we could have really used a plus bat in our line up the last two years.

[adambr2]

To me, the entire concept of having to wait years to judge a trade is not much more than a defense mechanism fans use to defend it if the trade is looking really bad. Are there really Marlin fans out there saying they need to wait and see if the Yelich trade looks horrible because Monte Harrison is only 25 and has only had 57 big league PAs, and Yelich is following up a lost season with an injury-riddled one?

 

The Grisham trade looks horrible right now, and it's ok to say that. You just do so with the caveat that things can change over time, but that doesn't prevent you from evaluating to this point. We're 18 months removed from the trade. It didn't happen last week.

 

And even IF, even IF Urias becomes AS good as Grisham (highly unlikely), Grisham is still the better value, because his production to this date helped his new team. That's something that seems to be missed looked at these. Grisham and Davies producing for the Padres mattered. Davies being really good last year helped convince the Cubs to take him on in a Darvish deal. That mattered. Do we not consider the Travis Shaw trade to be a homerun just because he completely flamed out in '19? No, it was still a homerun. We got two 4 WAR seasons at 3B out of Travis Shaw, and that mattered.

 

I think to a degree, some Brewer fans have so much respect and admiration for what Stearns did his first 3 years here (understandably), that they still can't quite believe that Stearns would make some big mistakes. I think there's some "Stearns-magic" mentality, and some believe that, if David thought enough of Urias and Lauer to make this deal, we just have to wait, it's going to work out. It might just not. The guy makes mistakes too. It happens.

 

I'm not saying it's over, but I think our own optimistic expectations are a bit unrealistic. Yes, there is a greater than zero chance that Eric Lauer develops into a left handed ace. There is a greater than zero chance that Urias becomes a perrenial all-star caliber SS. There is a greater than zero chance that Leo Crawford becomes a stud MLB pitcher and makes me look silly for calling him a non-prospect.

 

But when you look at the overall field of possible outcomes, the mean of all the likely scenarios are closer to this trade not looking much or any better 2-3 years from now, than they are to anything I listed above happening.

[Warning Track Power]

To me, the entire concept of having to wait years to judge a trade is not much more than a defense mechanism fans use to defend it if the trade is looking really bad. Are there really Marlin fans out there saying they need to wait and see if the Yelich trade looks horrible because Monte Harrison is only 25 and has only had 57 big league PAs, and Yelich is following up a lost season with an injury-riddled one?

 

The Grisham trade looks horrible right now, and it's ok to say that. You just do so with the caveat that things can change over time, but that doesn't prevent you from evaluating to this point. We're 18 months removed from the trade. It didn't happen last week.

 

And even IF, even IF Urias becomes AS good as Grisham (highly unlikely), Grisham is still the better value, because his production to this date helped his new team. That's something that seems to be missed looked at these. Grisham and Davies producing for the Padres mattered. Davies being really good last year helped convince the Cubs to take him on in a Darvish deal. That mattered. Do we not consider the Travis Shaw trade to be a homerun just because he completely flamed out in '19? No, it was still a homerun. We got two 4 WAR seasons at 3B out of Travis Shaw, and that mattered.

 

I think to a degree, some Brewer fans have so much respect and admiration for what Stearns did his first 3 years here (understandably), that they still can't quite believe that Stearns would make some big mistakes. I think there's some "Stearns-magic" mentality, and some believe that, if David thought enough of Urias and Lauer to make this deal, we just have to wait, it's going to work out. It might just not. The guy makes mistakes too. It happens.

 

I'm not saying it's over, but I think our own optimistic expectations are a bit unrealistic. Yes, there is a greater than zero chance that Eric Lauer develops into a left handed ace. There is a greater than zero chance that Urias becomes a perrenial all-star caliber SS. There is a greater than zero chance that Leo Crawford becomes a stud MLB pitcher and makes me look silly for calling him a non-prospect.

 

But when you look at the overall field of possible outcomes, the mean of all the likely scenarios are closer to this trade not looking much or any better 2-3 years from now, than they are to anything I listed above happening.

This is a well reasoned and well written post despite my disagreement with the position.

 

I do not believe that Stearns is infallible in his decision making and agree that right now the trade is heavily in favor of the Padres. That is undeniable. What I will say is that I also remember JJ Hardy coming up to the Majors in 2005 as a 23 year old kid and barely being able to hit. In fact, looking it up on Baseball Reference, through his first 70 games in 2005, in 223 PAs/191 ABs, he slashed .194/.297/.574. Hardy went on to be a good ballplayer for the next decade.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=hardyjj01&t=b&year=2005

 

In comparison, Urias is also 23 and, as a Brewer, has 241 PAs/212 ABS and a slash of .217/.304/.620.

 

The guy Hardy was traded for did something quite similar in his first two seasons in Milwaukee. Gomez slashed .238/.288/.666 in his first 576 PAs/522 ABs as a Brewer https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gomezca01.shtml

 

Is Urias going to be the next Hardy or Gomez? Who knows? My point is solely that some players take a bit more time than others and Urias may just be another one of those guys that takes a season or two to figure it out before breaking out.

 

I just think the microscope, spotlight and lack of patience from fans are on all Brewers right now due to atrocious offensive start and more so than normal on Urias due to Grisham's play in San Diego.

[Austin Tatious]

The offense is purely pathetic and unacceptable. Get Zach Green up here and see what he’s got. Offer Braun beaucoup bucks to play a partial year. This isn’t all Yelly being hurt.

 

You can’t put an obese first baseman into the three hole and surround him with a bunch of ragamuffins and expect to win. Shaw looks chubby compared to 2018. Jackie Bradley Jr sounds more like a Seinfeld character than a regular player. They are squandering some big time pitching. That cannot happen.

 

These lineups are a laughingstock and they need to get creative and figure out a solution. Acquisitions like Bradley and Garcia have failed spectacularly. Their stubborn reticence to draft corner infielders high in the draft is now proving to be catastrophic. Ditto for their foreign signings. You look at mock drafts and we are linked to a 5’10 shortstop. Possibly a good Punch and Judy guy but not remotely what we need to be doing. Yet it’s predictable.

 

They can look at trading anyone not named Mitchell, Perez or Kelly. That still leaves ammo to make a deal. Our corner infielders are fat and slow. It’s not working. It’s gotten to the point that hitting .230 with an OPS of .680 doesn’t sound too bad for a corner infielder. The thought process with roster construction is totally ridiculous.

[brewcrewdue80]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration. Don't you think there is a reason the Padres didn't care that they were giving up a players with a better minor league track record and gave up a pitcher with 3x the control Davies had? That is right, it looks like there talent evaluation was miles and leaps above ours. Much like us when we traded for Yelich.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

 

One team has a Brice Turang future SS with 2years of Orlando Arcia the other has Fernando Tatis Jr, waiting to play SS.

Milw had Cain, Yelich for 4more seasons and like I mentioned Tristan Lutz a 1st rd selection about to play AA for 2020. Reminder that in getting Lauer at that time, Burnes had just pitched one of the worst SP seasons ever, as well as Milw's MiLB pitcher of the yr 2018 Zack Brown. Lauer was coming off near 150IP, the kind of cheap controlled SP who could pitch a near full season's workload. The youth on the SP staff could not be counted for that. Davies was about to get 5-6mil a year for what he'd done but he just seemed to be a guy when he lost it it was going to bebig drop in performance. I think he out-priced himself and being able to move him for value before Arb made him needing to continue pitching as well as he'd been just to be of salary value. Lauer saved 5mil to use elsewhere.

The trade made sense, still does. Brewers have 2 ML starting players to show for it,1 with upside to extend in the future.

[adambr2]

This is exactly the kind of move Stearns should be faulted for. If he can't be faulted for this move then I don't understand how a GM can ever be blamed for something. He should definitely be faulted for it if he is basing decisions off of MiLB numbers...but I am sure that wasn't a huge consideration. Don't you think there is a reason the Padres didn't care that they were giving up a players with a better minor league track record and gave up a pitcher with 3x the control Davies had? That is right, it looks like there talent evaluation was miles and leaps above ours. Much like us when we traded for Yelich.

 

It is too early to really know if we lost this trade, but so far Stearns really really blew that trade.

 

One team has a Brice Turang future SS with 2years of Orlando Arcia the other has Fernando Tatis Jr, waiting to play SS.

Milw had Cain, Yelich for 4more seasons and like I mentioned Tristan Lutz a 1st rd selection about to play AA for 2020. Reminder that in getting Lauer at that time, Burnes had just pitched one of the worst SP seasons ever, as well as Milw's MiLB pitcher of the yr 2018 Zack Brown. Lauer was coming off near 150IP, the kind of cheap controlled SP who could pitch a near full season's workload. The youth on the SP staff could not be counted for that. Davies was about to get 5-6mil a year for what he'd done but he just seemed to be a guy when he lost it it was going to bebig drop in performance. I think he out-priced himself and being able to move him for value before Arb made him needing to continue pitching as well as he'd been just to be of salary value. Lauer saved 5mil to use elsewhere.

The trade made sense, still does. Brewers have 2 ML starting players to show for it,1 with upside to extend in the future.

 

Just because the trade made sense at the time does not mean that it was not a bad trade. I think every trade executed in MLB history made sense at the time to the GM that made it, other than in Major League.

 

Also, why should we care less that the Padres had Tatis so it made sense for them? That means we had to give them Grisham? I don't care what makes sense for the Padres.

 

Having 2 MLB starting players means absolutely nothing when both have been replacement level. Daniel Vogelbach is currently a starting MLB player as well.

 

I can live with the argument that the trade made sense at the time but anyone sitting here trying to say "nope, still was a good trade" is clearly doing their best Pinocchio impression.

[MrTPlush]

I don’t know why people keep talking about our OF like there was no room for Grisham. We literally went out and signed an iffy Avisail Garcia to a multi year contract that paid him over $10mil a year the same offseason we traded Grisham. We knew Braun was done after 2020 and we knew Cain was old. Then in 2021 we went out and signed a poor hitting OFer to another multi year deal that pay them $10mil+ a year.

 

They could have and it would have been a totally logical option to keep Grisham. Do I get the concept of SS being a bigger “need”, yes. However, let’s not make it seem like we had nowhere to put Grisham. There was an empty OF spot for him.

[adambr2]

I don’t know why people keep talking about our OF like there was no room for Grisham. We literally went out and signed an iffy Avisail Garcia to a multi year contract that paid him over $10mil a year the same offseason we traded Grisham. We knew Braun was done after 2020 and we knew Cain was old. Then in 2021 we went out and signed a poor hitting OFer to another multi year deal that pay them $10mil+ a year.

 

They could have and it would have been a totally logical option to keep Grisham. Do I get the concept of SS being a bigger “need”, yes. However, let’s not make it seem like we had nowhere to put Grisham. There was an empty OF spot for him.

 

The "no space for him" argument is maddening. We literally went out and gave up 4 prospects for Christian Yelich and 70M for Lorenzo Cain at a time when we only had room for 1 starting outfielder, and then turned around and paid Avi and Bradley Jr. both 8 figure a year contracts.

 

I'm quite confident that the 2020 and 2021 Brewers would have found a way to get Grisham a few ABs and innings in the field.

[tmwiese55]

I don’t know why people keep talking about our OF like there was no room for Grisham. We literally went out and signed an iffy Avisail Garcia to a multi year contract that paid him over $10mil a year the same offseason we traded Grisham. We knew Braun was done after 2020 and we knew Cain was old. Then in 2021 we went out and signed a poor hitting OFer to another multi year deal that pay them $10mil+ a year.

 

They could have and it would have been a totally logical option to keep Grisham. Do I get the concept of SS being a bigger “need”, yes. However, let’s not make it seem like we had nowhere to put Grisham. There was an empty OF spot for him.

 

Yup, the needed "4th OF" spot could've easily been filled by Grisham instead of Garcia/Bradley. He'd have gotten plenty of ABs in 2020 with Braun/Cain needing maintenance days and inevitable DL stints, some Braun at 1B if needed. Then he'd take over in 21 when Braun left and the 4th OF could be a cheap type like a Taylor/Ray etc since now you have one less old guy out there. Then you'd have 20 mil left to spend right now on say a Donaldson/Turner type attempt, or just keep Moose (who I think is overrated but still better than our curren trash). Keep in mind of course they could've struck out on all those sensible IF signings and be left with nothing and fans screaming how cheap they're being.

 

That said, I totally get the desire to upgrade SS from Arcia and the logic of Urias. And I get the idea of a Davies/Lauer swap. That was the whole goal of it all and most fans, and most here, were saying the same thing that we had to do something at SS. Hindsight, wish they'd have found a way get Urias without giving up Grisham. Urias' value couldn't have been too crazy high and SD had next to no use for him.

[adambr2]

Heck, Hiura for Urias/Lauer would have sounded pretty bad at the time but not so bad now.

[RollieTime]

I don’t know why people keep talking about our OF like there was no room for Grisham. We literally went out and signed an iffy Avisail Garcia to a multi year contract that paid him over $10mil a year the same offseason we traded Grisham. We knew Braun was done after 2020 and we knew Cain was old. Then in 2021 we went out and signed a poor hitting OFer to another multi year deal that pay them $10mil+ a year.

 

They could have and it would have been a totally logical option to keep Grisham. Do I get the concept of SS being a bigger “need”, yes. However, let’s not make it seem like we had nowhere to put Grisham. There was an empty OF spot for him.

 

This is what is so frustrating. Stop handing out these contracts to guys that only have a couple decent hitting seasons to their name. Go out and pay a little extra for an actual quality bat instead of spacing out the money for a bunch of unproductive players.

 

Remember when Castellanos was a free agent? How about having a bat like that in the lineup! A number of posters wanted him and I absolutely would have given him the deal he received. I said we should do a 6/$90 million with him back when he was a free agent because of his age at the time and expectations of moving into more friendly AmFam. That right handed bat to put in the middle of the lineup behind Yelich would have been huge. We would have another All-Star quality bat with Yelich for a half decade on a very reasonable contract.

 

Let’s stop committing $10 million to Sogard and Smoak, or over $20 million for Garcia and Bradley. Let’s actually get another big time bat with Yelich. That alone would do wonders for this offense.

 

I’m riding the Rizzo train this offseason. Gold glover, position of need, he’s a little older, but if you’re going to capitalize on this Yelich, Woodruff, and Burnes window, the time is now.

[DHonks]

With a few runs, we could have swept Philly and the Cardinals. Not even that many runs

[wntrtxn21]

With a few runs, we could have swept Philly and the Cardinals. Not even that many runs

 

The Crew was 2 for 31 w/RISP this last series with the Cards. 29th out of 30 MLB clubs w/RISP. I think that says it all.

[MrTPlush]

With a few runs, we could have swept Philly and the Cardinals. Not even that many runs

 

The Crew was 2 for 31 w/RISP this last series with the Cards. 29th out of 30 MLB clubs w/RISP. I think that says it all.

 

Yup, coming back down to earth. To start the season the offense wasn't that bad statistically speaking (runs scored), but that is because their RISP was really really high.

 

On another note I find it somewhat maddening we dealt with a few poor years of Segura, finally got sick of that, and shipped him off to play Arcia. Then after 5+ years of one of the worst starting positional players in baseball we dealt for Urias to give him the job. Another guy who (in a small sample) didn't hit MLB pitching and looked like another light hitting SS. Even worse Urias doesn't even play good defense so he really needs to hit to be a solid starter.

 

Statistically speaking I don't even think SS is as bad as it used to be to find a decent player. Since the boom of Dominican/Central American players a ton of elite bats are coming up that way. I could be wrong, but I don't think SS is even close to the hardest position to find 3+ WAR talent. Outside of OF it may be the easiest.

 

I don't even think Grisham doing good bothers me the most. It is the fact, after all these years, Stearns finally picks a new SS and they aren't even good. I hope Urias figures it out before Stearns takes four years to find out he isn't good.

[jonescm128]

Have you seen this Jesus Aguilar guy? He's pretty good. Brewers could use a guy like him.

[mtrebs]

Have you seen this Jesus Aguilar guy? He's pretty good. Brewers could use a guy like him.

 

Yeah, it’s unfortunate he was so awful that they couldn’t put him out there any longer. I believe we were looking ‘ok’ at 1B at the time as well. But yes, it would be great to have him back.

 

This last series with the Cardinals just shows the difference between our teams when you look at the 1B and 3B situations. It’s sad.