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I’m just a tad too young to remember the Fab 5, so I’ve never really understood the hype surrounding a team that LOST back-to-back national championship games. I guess they wore black socks and baggy shorts, so they at least looked really cool while losing ... ?

Honestly, making the finals with an all-freshman lineup today, when the top players rarely spend more than a year in college, would be absurdly impressive. The Duke team that beat Wisconsin is probably the most freshman-led team to ever win it all and they only started three and had an all-conference senior. Most of the teams that have started four of five freshmen underachieved based on the hype.

 

Now go back to that era, when the best players stayed in school longer ...

 

That Duke team they lost to was probably the pinnacle of that era of Duke teams. Not winning it as sophomores might have been disappointing, but that first year was legitimately revolutionary.

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I’m just a tad too young to remember the Fab 5, so I’ve never really understood the hype surrounding a team that LOST back-to-back national championship games. I guess they wore black socks and baggy shorts, so they at least looked really cool while losing ... ?

Honestly, making the finals with an all-freshman lineup today, when the top players rarely spend more than a year in college, would be absurdly impressive. The Duke team that beat Wisconsin is probably the most freshman-led team to ever win it all and they only started three and had an all-conference senior. Most of the teams that have started four of five freshmen underachieved based on the hype.

 

Now go back to that era, when the best players stayed in school longer ...

 

That Duke team they lost to was probably the pinnacle of that era of Duke teams. Not winning it as sophomores might have been disappointing, but that first year was legitimately revolutionary.

 

And that was great too. I laughed like a loon when Webber got the T for calling timeout.

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I’m just a tad too young to remember the Fab 5, so I’ve never really understood the hype surrounding a team that LOST back-to-back national championship games. I guess they wore black socks and baggy shorts, so they at least looked really cool while losing ... ?

Honestly, making the finals with an all-freshman lineup today, when the top players rarely spend more than a year in college, would be absurdly impressive. The Duke team that beat Wisconsin is probably the most freshman-led team to ever win it all and they only started three and had an all-conference senior. Most of the teams that have started four of five freshmen underachieved based on the hype.

 

Now go back to that era, when the best players stayed in school longer ...

 

That Duke team they lost to was probably the pinnacle of that era of Duke teams. Not winning it as sophomores might have been disappointing, but that first year was legitimately revolutionary.

 

And that was great too. I laughed like a loon when Webber got the T for calling timeout.

Great moment for me too. Michigan acted like they would've won the game if it wasn't for the time out. UNC was ahead at the time. All that time out did was put the final nail in their coffin.

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Fab 5 were good their freshmen year but all they really had was that tournament run. They were like 20 - 8 in the regular season.

 

They were much better the next season 31 - 4 entering the tourney. Of course, all their wins that year were vacated.

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I don’t know why but I lost interest in the tournament this year after the opening weekend. Not many interesting storylines. Michigan-UCLA was the one game that interested me, I caught the last 5 minutes and it was disappointing to say the least.

 

Give me Gonzaga - Baylor pretty please.

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Bo Boroski is calling the Michigan / UCLA game...this will end badly.

It certainly shouldn't have ended badly for Michigan. They were 7-0 in Boroski-reffed games before the Elite 8. UW, on the other hand, was 0-7 in Boroski games, 10-3 in non-Boroski games. Here are Big 10 teams' records in BoBo games. The number in parentheses is the difference in winning percentage in the rest of their games. I got the numbers off of Buckyville, and the poster on Buckyville got them from Bart Torvik.

Michigan 7-0 (-30%)

Iowa 4-1 (-13%)

OSU 4-1 (-27%)

Illinois 5-2 (+13%)

Purdue 4-2 (+3%)

Rutgers 3-2 (-13%)

PSU 2-2 (-17%)

NW 2-2 (-23%)

MD 2-3 (+7%)

Indiana 2-3 (-4%)

Minnesota 1-4 (+13%)

Nebraska 0-2 (+18%)

Michigan State 0-5 (+60%)

Wisconsin 0-7 (+77%)

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Bo Boroski is calling the Michigan / UCLA game...this will end badly.

It certainly shouldn't have ended badly for Michigan. They were 7-0 in Boroski-reffed games before the Elite 8. UW, on the other hand, was 0-7 in Boroski games, 10-3 in non-Boroski games. Here are Big 10 teams' records in BoBo games. The number in parentheses is the difference in winning percentage in the rest of their games. I got the numbers off of Buckyville, and the poster on Buckyville got them from Bart Torvik.

Michigan 7-0 (-30%)

Iowa 4-1 (-13%)

OSU 4-1 (-27%)

Illinois 5-2 (+13%)

Purdue 4-2 (+3%)

Rutgers 3-2 (-13%)

PSU 2-2 (-17%)

NW 2-2 (-23%)

MD 2-3 (+7%)

Indiana 2-3 (-4%)

Minnesota 1-4 (+13%)

Nebraska 0-2 (+18%)

Michigan State 0-5 (+60%)

Wisconsin 0-7 (+77%)

 

I know statistically there will be variations and its still a relatively small sample size but that does seem outside the noise for Bucky.

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Ultra poetic that Williams retires after an ugly loss to Wisconsin where they lost the game of basketball skills.

 

Very much agreed. I always hoped for the day he'd have to come to the Kohl Center and take the medicine he had coming.

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UCLA looks goofy but they are scrappy. Giving Zags all they can handle.
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I don't like Gonzaga. Go Baylor
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What a great game...I hate how that ends though. It feels luck instead of a actual big shot to win it.

 

Idk, not trying to take away from the shot at the end, but banking a near half court shot is just...not the kind of end I want to see. Not after UCLA had an incredible run in the tourney and hard fought game.

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also that was an amazing basketball game.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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