2021 Miscellaneous NFL News

[adambr2]

Took Aldon Smith like 5 minutes to get in trouble after signing with Seattle. Now wanted for 2nd degree battery.

 

Some guys will never get it.

[HiAndTight]

Took Aldon Smith like 5 minutes to get in trouble after signing with Seattle. Now wanted for 2nd degree battery.

 

Some guys will never get it.

 

I mean...could be CTE!

 

Seriously though, this just makes me sad. The guy had legitimate HOF talent...and whatever happened, however his brain works, however he was raised, he just can't get out of his own way. Nearly choked someone to death. Choked them until they passed out.

[GAME05]

Strangulation is a high-up felony by me. Really a shame some people's character completely wastes their talent. Instead of a HOF ring he'll be "oh yeah, that guy" in a few years.

 

Of the players coming out of college (or NFL FAs) with major character concerns, it feels like it's a really small percentage who turn things around and fly right. I wonder how many teams are treating or beginning to treat even little things like Manziel shoplifting right before the draft as signs they just shouldn't deal with the guy.

[HiAndTight]

Strangulation is a high-up felony by me. Really a shame some people's character completely wastes their talent. Instead of a HOF ring he'll be "oh yeah, that guy" in a few years.

 

Of the players coming out of college (or NFL FAs) with major character concerns, it feels like it's a really small percentage who turn things around and fly right. I wonder how many teams are treating or beginning to treat even little things like Manziel shoplifting right before the draft as signs they just shouldn't deal with the guy.

 

 

I don't know, I could be convinced of either side. Kids do dumb things...you're still pretty much a kid when you're 18-20(the age of most top prospects). So I could excuse most of the dumb things they do. The steeling a laptop by Cam or whatever. I'd probably have a guy like Tyreke Hill or Joe Mixon off my board, but even then, I don't know the details and I could see how a GM or a coach could be convinced that a kid has genuine remorse and that one mistake by an 18-year-old shouldn't be the end.

 

 

And with regard to Smith...does he even go down as a miss for the 49'ers in their book? 35.5 sacks in his first 32 games, two deep playoff runs including a SB. 45 sacks his first 3 years and then he starts getting into trouble. So do they look at it as a guy who ruined his career and cost himself every chance to make generational money for his family, or is it just, "well, the years we did get were worth it."

 

As long as guys have freak talent as he did, teams will be willing to take a risk on them. And I don't even remember Smith being a guy with problems coming into the NFL. So it's no wonder you hear some of the ridiculous questions they ask. Like the one front office that asked a player about what it was like growing up with his mother being a sex worker. I guess that's meant to see how emotional the player gets, but...it just all feels so flawed and pointless. It feels like they treat them like race cars. They're not meant to make it past the race, they just need to get them through it.

 

Feels like they could probably be a bit more proactive, but I don't know. They're also their employer, not their parent.

[PinaMadness]

I remember praying that the Packers would draft him on draft night. I couldn't have been more wrong.

[wildcat83]

Tom Brady's rant about the new jersey rules seems incredibly dumb to me. He's trying to say there will be "bad football" and "safety concerns" because they won't be able to identify the defenders. Really??? At the NFL level they won't know who is who because of them possibly wearing a wider range of numbers? It's not like they made it so they can switch jerseys in the huddle. If you put an ounce of time into the prep for the week I think you'd know the opponent no matter what number they wear.

[CheezWizHed]

Dear Tom,

 

If there is a big guy about to tackle you, stop looking at their number and throw the ball.

 

Sincerely,

The Commish

[MrTPlush]

I could see it as a problem from a competitive standpoint. It certainly favors the defense being able to add confusion with numbers. Yah, you do film...but for the second, third, or even fourth guy in a rotation? You will know JJ Watt regardless of number, but not lesser known guys. Definitely some room for confusion on the offense.

 

Not sure any team would actually do it, but seems like you’d want some guys with the classic “normal” number and then have the rotational guys have weird numbers. As teams get used to the new number concept a team early in the season it could be pretty advantageous.

[pacopete4]

I think Tom's argument is dumb but I think the number switch is dumber.

[CheezWizHed]

I wonder who will become the first #99 CB?

[HiAndTight]

I could see it as a problem from a competitive standpoint. It certainly favors the defense being able to add confusion with numbers. Yah, you do film...but for the second, third, or even fourth guy in a rotation? You will know JJ Watt regardless of number, but not lesser known guys. Definitely some room for confusion on the offense.

 

Not sure any team would actually do it, but seems like you’d want some guys with the classic “normal” number and then have the rotational guys have weird numbers. As teams get used to the new number concept a team early in the season it could be pretty advantageous.

 

 

I think you're really underestimating NFL players level of preparation, their intelligence. Particularly the offensive linemen.

 

If you line up in the box, they're going to try to account for you if your number is 52 or 25.

 

There's a reason Brady's pretty much the only person that has a problem with this.

[HiAndTight]

Orlando Brown to KC for a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

 

Man...KC is not playing around. They're not going to play it conservatively with their young stud QB. They go out and trade for a 25-year-old LT who didn't allow a QB hit or sack last season and is a great run blocker as well.

[PinaMadness]

Orlando Brown to KC for a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

 

Man...KC is not playing around. They're not going to play it conservatively with their young stud QB. They go out and trade for a 25-year-old LT who didn't allow a QB hit or sack last season and is a great run blocker as well.

I wonder what that's like, having an aggressive GM that will help out his stud quarterback.

[nodakfan17]

Orlando Brown to KC for a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

 

Man...KC is not playing around. They're not going to play it conservatively with their young stud QB. They go out and trade for a 25-year-old LT who didn't allow a QB hit or sack last season and is a great run blocker as well.

I wonder what that's like, having an aggressive GM that will help out his stud quarterback.

 

I get where you’re coming from, but that same GM did cut Mahomes’ other two starting tackles ... he sort of owed him one (or two).

 

I thought that was a good trade for both teams. The Chiefs are in win-now mode and add a Pro Bowl tackle still on his rookie deal. The Ravens (who already had a LT) add a FRP for a guy who would have been hard to keep after his rookie deal is up next Spring.

[areacodes]

I could see it as a problem from a competitive standpoint. It certainly favors the defense being able to add confusion with numbers. Yah, you do film...but for the second, third, or even fourth guy in a rotation? You will know JJ Watt regardless of number, but not lesser known guys. Definitely some room for confusion on the offense.

 

Not sure any team would actually do it, but seems like you’d want some guys with the classic “normal” number and then have the rotational guys have weird numbers. As teams get used to the new number concept a team early in the season it could be pretty advantageous.

 

I don’t seem to recall any college player ever complaining about a competitive advantage because a D-lineman is wearing single digits (which they can do in college but still can’t in the pros) or that a DB and LB could both be wearing numbers in the teens. I don’t think I’ve ever heard a coach say that a play didn’t work or a QB threw a pick because he got confused over the other players number.

 

It is the NFL, if a team can’t do enough film study to know that the 3rd string LB wears 19 instead of 49, that is on them... they have enough resources to do so. If it is so difficult to keep track of 48 active/53 total numbers, how do college teams keep track of even more and with even more leeway for numbers/positions? Heck, in college you can even have players with them same numbers on the roster and times where a player might need to change jerseys during the game if they’d be on the field at the same time as their number counterpart.

[PeaveyFury]

Orlando Brown to KC for a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

 

Man...KC is not playing around. They're not going to play it conservatively with their young stud QB. They go out and trade for a 25-year-old LT who didn't allow a QB hit or sack last season and is a great run blocker as well.

I wonder what that's like, having an aggressive GM that will help out his stud quarterback.

 

Wouldn't be a Packer offseason without fans complaining about the front office despite how good they are at their jobs.....

[homer]

Orlando Brown to KC for a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

 

Man...KC is not playing around. They're not going to play it conservatively with their young stud QB. They go out and trade for a 25-year-old LT who didn't allow a QB hit or sack last season and is a great run blocker as well.

I wonder what that's like, having an aggressive GM that will help out his stud quarterback.

 

Yeah he would have won the MVP with more help.

 

Wait...

[Fear The Chorizo]

Orlando Brown to KC for a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

 

Man...KC is not playing around. They're not going to play it conservatively with their young stud QB. They go out and trade for a 25-year-old LT who didn't allow a QB hit or sack last season and is a great run blocker as well.

 

And they are having to gut draft picks that have the potential to bring in young and cheap talent to acquire a guy they'll instantly need to slap a franchise tag on while figuring out how to make the contracts work to keep him, their QB, and a competitive roster around longterm....primarily because they are paying said franchise QB a huge portion of their salary cap for the next 10 years. They saw what happened in the Super Bowl last year when both of their tackles couldn't play...then they had to cut them for cap reasons.

[Hopper]

Isn't complaining about your team, how it is ran, etc., part of being a fan?

I never understand when people complain about fans complaining about their team.

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I enjoy the banter with fans of my team, good and bad.

[CheezWizHed]

The only issue I have with people complaining about their team is when people complain about any and all moves. Or when someone is right once and beats that drum for a year. Some people just like to complain. Some people I wonder why or if they are actual fans of the team at all...

[PeaveyFury]

I think my issue is that the fans continue to complain about the same things with Gute, despite the fact that he's proven himself right about 99% of the time thus far. Sooner or later, you'd think the fans would get on board.

[nodakfan17]

Isn't complaining about your team, how it is ran, etc., part of being a fan?

I never understand when people complain about fans complaining about their team.

Maybe I'm just a pessimist, but I enjoy the banter with fans of my team, good and bad.

I’m with you for the most part. The NFL wants fans to be invested in their favorite team because it drives $$$. With that emotional investment comes a lot of joy and a lot of disappointment. This BF group is pretty grounded, which makes for good chatter. However, Packers’ Twitter can be toxic.

[CheezWizHed]

However, Packers’ Twitter can be toxic.

 

Fixed. I only bother with Twitter when someone here posts something interesting. Social media on the whole can be pretty toxic, but the format of Twitter seems to bring out the worst in people.

[GAME05]

I like the complaining. One of the best parts of sports is automatically hating everything the GM does. It's an aspect of baseball that I see as fading away (to a degree) and I miss it.

[GAME05]

Denver just traded for Bridgewater for a 6th Round pick. Carolina is also paying $7M of the contract. Denver said it will adjust his contract so that he can become a FA after this coming season.

 

Certainly doesn't change the chances of either team taking a QB right away. But if that guy is Trey Lance, certainly he's not a guy you'd want to throw into the starter's role right away. But Mac Jones you probably could.