2021 Miscellaneous NFL News

[homer]

Bears are gonna regret that win come April.

[nate82]

Bears are gonna regret that win come April.

 

They don't have a 1st round pick they traded it to the Giants in the Fields trade, so not really.

[homer]

Bears are gonna regret that win come April.

 

They don't have a 1st round pick they traded it to the Giants in the Fields trade, so not really.

 

Darn

[AKCheesehead]

That Lawrence pick 6 tonight was one of the more impressive defensive plays I’ve seen this season.

[stalton]

WT heck, WFT

[nodakfan17]

Did anyone else get nervous when you saw the Bucs, Cowboys, and Chiefs put inferior teams away yesterday?

[yourout]

Did anyone else get nervous when you saw the Bucs, Cowboys, and Chiefs put inferior teams away yesterday?

Like the days of belichick and Brady in New England they don't just put the knife in they give it a twist and take a flamethrower to the carcass.

[nodakfan17]

[sarcasm]Bears Fans Today: ‘Wait, we’ve had Nick Foles this whole time?’[/sarcasm]

[Fear The Chorizo]

Did anyone else get nervous when you saw the Bucs, Cowboys, and Chiefs put inferior teams away yesterday?

 

Not at all - such is the NFL week to week. The Eagles crushed the Giants by more than what the Cowboys did just last week and the Bucs were shut out by the Saints last week...does that mean the Eagles and Saints are to be even more feared by Packer fans in the NFC?

[OldHeidelberg]

Did anyone else get nervous when you saw the Bucs, Cowboys, and Chiefs put inferior teams away yesterday?

 

You need to get early kill shots to get blowouts in today's NFL. If you get to the 4th with a 2 score lead you can almost guarantee the other team will score at least once, unless you have an elite D it's just hard to stop teams once they have 4 downs to work with and are desperate. We saw it yesterday in the Viking game, Rams go up 2 TD's with 10 minutes left yet like 3 minutes later they are facing 3rd and long with a 7 point lead.

 

And yes maybe it's still post 2014 NFCC traumatic syndrome but it bothers me the Packers play so many close games and don't put teams away. It's a problem and I don't think it is just random luck, we don't just make a late 2 score lead interesting we often end up with the other team having the ball late with a chance to win. I don't know what it is, a combination of soft prevent defense and conservative play calling on O maybe but we get there again and again.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Miami has 17 pts on NOs d. Brady got shutout.

 

tua >>> Brady

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Dolphins have had a 7 game winning streak and 7 game losing streak this season. Rather impressive.

[PeaveyFury]

106 NFL players went on the COVID list yesterday. Yikes.

[yourout]

Dolphins have had a 7 game winning streak and 7 game losing streak this season. Rather impressive.

 

Has that every happened before?

[OldHeidelberg]

106 NFL players went on the COVID list yesterday. Yikes.

 

You know the NFL will plow through but this surge could explode during the playoffs. Getting that bye gets bigger and bigger for the Pack.

[patrickgpe]

Dolphins have had a 7 game winning streak and 7 game losing streak this season. Rather impressive.

 

Has that every happened before?

they said on the radio on my way into work this AM that it hasn't

[Fear The Chorizo]

106 NFL players went on the COVID list yesterday. Yikes.

 

And I'd guess the majority of them were among the random groupings of asymptomatic vaccinated players selected for weekly COVID testing - the actual # of NFL players and coaches who currently have COVID right now is probably much, much higher. This will be a weekly thing that the NFL hopes winds down in about 3 weeks, so conference championship games and the Super Bowl aren't dramatically impacted. I'd imagine the random weekly grouping of players picked for testing from each team is like 10% of their roster including their practice squad, so around 6-7 players - that's roughly 200 vaccinated players tested each sunday/monday after games. Say that only 75% of those 106 positive tests were from that random selection of ~200 - that's still about a 40% positive rate on a single day, which is insanely high. Extrapolate that rate across the rest of the league rosters - there'd be no way the season would still be going on without their policy change that doesn't require weekly testing for all vaccinated players/personnel a few weeks ago.

 

There are vaxxed players who still are showing symptoms and getting tested when those symptoms show up (likely the positive tests that happen later in the week as teams get closer to gameday). But the Monday/Tuesday results are mostly going to be coming from asymptomatic and vaccinated players.

 

You know the NFL will plow through but this surge could explode during the playoffs. Getting that bye gets bigger and bigger for the Pack.

 

Yes, the bye is big, but not for COVID reasons - last I checked people get COVID outside of NFL team facilities, too. The bye is huge simply for on the field football reasons getting homefield but most importantly only needing to win 2 games to reach the Super Bowl. This COVID surge has been tearing through the league for the past month, and it's probably at the point where more players/coaches have recently had COVID compared to those who haven't regardless of vaccination status - that limits how many future infections happen during the playoffs when player availability matters the most.

 

If I'm the Packers, the week before Rodgers actually has to start getting tested daily again (which is around NFCCG week, I believe), I have him start testing regularly himself and then put him in a bubble as long as the Packers are still alive in the playoffs - any natural immunity from his infection in October probably won't be too helpful for the most recent variant in terms of preventing a positive COVID test.

[PeaveyFury]

106 NFL players went on the COVID list yesterday. Yikes.

 

And I'd guess the majority of them were among the random groupings of asymptomatic vaccinated players selected for weekly COVID testing

 

Actually, apparently not per the NFL. Nearly all cases now are symptomatic:

 

https://theathletic.com/news/asymptomatic-people-are-not-spreading-covid-19-says-nfl-chief-medical-officer-allen-sills/p6cOlxPtkv87/

[Fear The Chorizo]

106 NFL players went on the COVID list yesterday. Yikes.

 

And I'd guess the majority of them were among the random groupings of asymptomatic vaccinated players selected for weekly COVID testing

 

Actually, apparently not per the NFL. Nearly all cases now are symptomatic:

 

https://theathletic.com/news/asymptomatic-people-are-not-spreading-covid-19-says-nfl-chief-medical-officer-allen-sills/p6cOlxPtkv87/

 

That article is trying to explain where viral transmission is coming from and justifying the NFL's policy not to worry about asymptomatic, vaccinated players potentially spreading virus at team facilities during the week - it doesn't indicate that players/coaches testing positive on a Monday the day after playing a football game are symptomatic themselves. It actually indicates players are likely getting infected away from team facilities.

 

Any positive COVID tests that are announced Wed-Saturday in an NFL week are going to be either unvaxxed players who tested positive from one of their daily tests (the # of unvaxxed players who haven't already gotten COVID can probably be counted on a pair of hands at this point), or a vaxxed player whose infection became symptomatic during the week and warranted a test. Positive tests at the start of an NFL week are most likely to be from the random grouping of vaxxed players picked each week to test regardless of symptoms, plus any players reporting symptoms when showing up to team facilities right after a game. When a press release indicating a group of players that tested positive on a given day at the start of a week still have the potential to suit up and play the team's next game, it's because they are asymptomatic cases at the time of their initial positive testing result and vaccinated.

[PeaveyFury]

 

That article is trying to explain where viral transmission is coming from and justifying the NFL's policy not to worry about asymptomatic, vaccinated players potentially spreading virus at team facilities during the week -.

 

Actually, I think the larger point of the article is that far more players actually have symptoms and somewhat predictably, they aren't being transparent about it in an effort to try to play, hence leading to wider spread.

[nodakfan17]

[sarcasm]They should probably just cancel the season and give the team with the best record the trophy. [/sarcasm]

[Fear The Chorizo]

 

That article is trying to explain where viral transmission is coming from and justifying the NFL's policy not to worry about asymptomatic, vaccinated players potentially spreading virus at team facilities during the week -.

 

Actually, I think the larger point of the article is that far more players actually have symptoms and somewhat predictably, they aren't being transparent about it in an effort to try to play, hence leading to wider spread.

 

I think that's what may have been happening before the policy change a few weeks ago, when all vaccinated players were tested on a Monday, then whoever passed those tests didn't worry about any minor symptoms during that week until the next round of tests. That's what was leading to Tuesday and Wednesday press releases of a team winding up with 20 players/coaches suddenly having positive COVID tests after the team was largely unimpacted with the previous testing policy, and then those teams that got put into stricter NFL protocols had a snowball effect on cases due to more frequent testing.

 

Take the Chiefs last week - they had a handful of positive test results on Tuesday after their Monday night game, including Kelce and Hill - then as the week moved on added a few other players to their COVID list who reported symptoms and needed to get tested. Hill then actually wound up being able to clear protocols and suit up for Sunday's game on a short week because he was asymptomatic throughout and vaccinated and subsequent test results cleared him to play just 5 days after testing positive.

 

I definitely agree that players are going to be hesitant to report symptoms no matter what the policy is, that's been going on all season long no matter how public relations try to spin it - the NFL changing its testing frequency for vaccinated players (which is essentially 95% of league rosters) is going to allow them to get through their season and playoffs as scheduled as long as the current variant symptoms are either nonexistent or barely noticeable in vaccinated people who aren't considered high risk (fever is not one of the primary symptoms of the Omicron variant).

[PinaMadness]

John Madden has died.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32953839/nfl-hall-fame-coach-broadcasting-icon-john-madden-dies-85

[DuWayne Steurer]

John Madden has died.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32953839/nfl-hall-fame-coach-broadcasting-icon-john-madden-dies-85

 

Voice of the NFL on tv for a long time. RIP coach.

[young guns]

Sad. Just a few days ago, I had been thinking about him and couldn't remember if he was still alive. I grew up with the madden games and liked him as an announcer on fox. He basically was football for my child self.