2021 Miscellaneous NFL News

[PeaveyFury]

Just to firm up the details on the Philly/Mia trade: #6 and a 5th to Miami for #12, a 4th, and a 2022 first. Not a bad deal for Philly at all. Drop 6 spots, grab a 4th for a 5th and grab an extra 2022 first...

 

That's two major draft trades for this far out from the draft....

[GAME05]

Miami gonna be crossing their fingers for Jamar Chase from LSU.

[homer]

The Dolphins haul for Laremy Tunsil was incredible.

 

That’s at least four 1st round picks.

 

four first round picks and a third round pick.

[tmwiese55]

Jimmy G going back to the Pats? I really haven't seen any solid info on it today but I think he has a no trade clause and that seems like a logical spot if they have any space left after their spending spree.

[adambr2]

Jimmy G going back to the Pats? I really haven't seen any solid info on it today but I think he has a no trade clause and that seems like a logical spot if they have any space left after their spending spree.

 

The 49ers are telling teams that Jimmy G is not available.

[HiAndTight]

Wow ... 49ers going the "who needs draft picks?" route, while the Dolphins are gonna have one heck of a talent base in a few years. Gotta think that the Niners are targeting Trey Lance at #3

 

 

I would assume it's going to be Fields as I think Lawrence and Wilson are now the favorites to go 1-2. Lance would be a gutsy pick, but I have a hard time seeing him go before one of the top 3.

 

Either way, just to put it in perspective, Wilson has been compared by many to Love with Kiper saying Love had more upside...but was not as consistent in his Collegiate career as Zach Wilson.

 

Wilson is about half a year younger, but he also didn't deal with a fraction of the turnover that Love did at Utah State.

 

 

Now I'm definitely on the "go all-in with Rodgers" bandwagon, but I also understood why they'd take a QB they were THAT high on him.

Just too important of a position to not take that talent when it's there(also remember there were many mocks that have Love going ahead of Herbert and teams that had Love over Herbert).

[HiAndTight]

Makes sense all the way around. Miami gives Tua a real shot to win the starter's job this coming season. #3 overall is too high to hold with good OL and especially good WRs later in the round.

 

Eagles do the same thing with Hurts, giving him a chance to win the position yet high enough to get him a shiny new WR. And if not they've got two picks next year to move up.

 

SF, clearly, is high on both Fields and the BYU guy, enough to dump Jimmy G. for whichever they get.

 

 

 

In a normal year, I'd definitely disagree. A top 3 pick for a franchise LT is not too high at all. 2nd or 3rd most important position.

 

It just so happens most people think it' a given that the top 4 picks will be QB's and there is a VERY good chance they'd be able to draft Sewell at #6 anyway.

 

 

Just to add to what everyone else has said,what an absolute BRILLIANT trade for Miami. That could be a franchise builder. If...Sewell is as good as advertised, and he's been talked about as a top 5 pick the last two years, then you get a BETTER LT, you get 4 more picks and you don't have to pay the LT you drafted for the period in which you weren't competitive anyway(which I get doesn't really factor in, but still).

 

That could end up being a Hershel Walker-esque trade.

 

Miami now has 13 picks in the top 2 rounds the next 3 years, they've got TWO 1st rounders the next two years.

 

So they can go with Tua as they build this roster the right way...and if they miss, they'll be able to take another big swing next year with

Sam Howell and a whole bunch of other QB's coming in THAT deep draft class.

[HiAndTight]

Just to firm up the details on the Philly/Mia trade: #6 and a 5th to Miami for #12, a 4th, and a 2022 first. Not a bad deal for Philly at all. Drop 6 spots, grab a 4th for a 5th and grab an extra 2022 first...

 

That's two major draft trades for this far out from the draft....

 

 

Yeah, that's really strange. It's strange at any point, but over a month out. It would certainly suggest that the 49'ers believe at LEAST two of the top 3 QB's after Lawrence are worth taking and they have a VERY high grade on them.

 

And it seems like it's pretty much a given that there will be a run of QB's. Top 4 picks...so the Dolphins know they can go back up to 6 and get a premium prospect like Chase or Sewell there. Probably who they'd have taken if they were picking 3rd anyway.

 

For the Dolphins to be willing to give up their 1st next year, they must REALLY feel confident in Tua and believe he's going to be a stud.

 

They are a team that's still sorta rebuilding(though they're definitely coming out of the end of it). So that is a big deal.

[madbad2000]

Dolphins played this excellent. Assuming 1-2-3 QBs, they are looking at either the top WR, Top LT or the game changing and consensus top TE. Any of which could have been picked at 3 originally. It wouldn't surprise me either if the went someone like Parsons at 6 and a WR or Tackle at 18. Very well done on their part.

[HiAndTight]

Dolphins played this excellent. Assuming 1-2-3 QBs, they are looking at either the top WR, Top LT or the game changing and consensus top TE. Any of which could have been picked at 3 originally. It wouldn't surprise me either if the went someone like Parsons at 6 and a WR or Tackle at 18. Very well done on their part.

 

I just saw Parsons mocked to the Packers. That doesn't mean anything...I just thought it was funny.

 

There are so many mocks and they vary so much, it's nothing more than anecdotal at this point, but I'd be very surprised if they took an off-ball LB'er at #6 over a couple of real blue-chip offensive players.

 

But either way, they could come away with one of the best offensive players and a stud LB'er if Parsons makes it to them at 18.

 

I'll be honest about Pitts though, I don't get it. #5? He's an amazing TE prospect, I just feel like there are too many players at more important positions. But I guess if you wanna get Tua the weapons to succeed, a big security blanket who can run like a Deer is a good option.

[GAME05]

I guess Tray Lance is basically the Giannis Antetokounmpo of the Draft this year.

[HiAndTight]

I guess Tray Lance is basically the Giannis Antetokounmpo of the Draft this year.

 

I sure hope not. The dude is 6'4, has a cannon for an arm and for a point of reference, the fastest Lamar Jackson has run in the NFL, 21.01 MPH. Lance, 21.54. So he's probably in the low 4.3's in terms of his 40 time. A talent like that COULD almost be a Mahomes-Jackson hybrid if he hits his ceiling. That would be if he actually becomes the Giannis of this draft.

 

There's a real chance 5 QB's could be picked in the top 8.

 

This mock has Jones going 11th to Chicago and the Packers having to move up to 21 to get Newsome.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/four-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-2-0-49ers-pounce-on-trey-lance-at-no-3

[GAME05]

I was only thinking in terms of being valued for his measurable a but nobody really knows much about him.

[HiAndTight]

I was only thinking in terms of being valued for his measurable a but nobody really knows much about him.

 

I understood what you meant...I just took it the next step and then imagined if he actually hits.

[PinaMadness]

Looks like we're going to a 17 game schedule. AFC teams have the home games, meaning we play in KC in 2021.

[wildcat83]

Looks like we're going to a 17 game schedule. AFC teams have the home games, meaning we play in KC in 2021.

 

A part not mentioned much was every team needs to play overseas at least once every 8 year cycle. I believe the Packers are the only NFL team to not have played overseas yet.

[jerichoholicninja]

Looks like we're going to a 17 game schedule. AFC teams have the home games, meaning we play in KC in 2021.

 

Didn't think they would just give a whole conference the extra home game. I would have liked to see them play the 17th game at a neutral site without an NFL team to try out some new markets.

[adambr2]

Looks like we're going to a 17 game schedule. AFC teams have the home games, meaning we play in KC in 2021.

 

Didn't think they would just give a whole conference the extra home game. I would have liked to see them play the 17th game at a neutral site without an NFL team to try out some new markets.

 

I think they are doing that starting in '22. One international game for everyone at a neutral site as the 17th game.

[HiAndTight]

Wow ... 49ers going the "who needs draft picks?" route, while the Dolphins are gonna have one heck of a talent base in a few years. Gotta think that the Niners are targeting Trey Lance at #3

 

 

There are rumors the 49'ers are targeting....Mac Jones.

 

If they gave up 3 1sts+ to move up to #3 in a class with 4 QB's who look like franchise QB's and then a 5th who may go in the top 10 just due to the importance of the position and they pick the low floor, low ceiling guy, I'm gonna be thrilled.

 

Doesn't jive with their stance that they're going to keep Jimmy G for another year(while that makes perfect sense if they want Lance or even Fields). But lets cross our fingers it's Mac Jones.

[HiAndTight]

Looks like we're going to a 17 game schedule. AFC teams have the home games, meaning we play in KC in 2021.

 

Didn't think they would just give a whole conference the extra home game. I would have liked to see them play the 17th game at a neutral site without an NFL team to try out some new markets.

 

I think they are doing that starting in '22. One international game for everyone at a neutral site as the 17th game.

 

 

No, it's starting next year. The Packers 17th game will be at KC.

The AFC will host the extra game in '21 and the NFC in '22.

I still believe a team just has to play one international game every 8 years, not every year.

 

 

Doesn't sound like they're limiting the # of games a player can play as has been suggested and they're not adding a 19th week to provide a 2nd bye week. So...health of the players certainly doesn't seem to be the primary concern.

 

 

I haven't seen what they'll do with rosters yet, but I would guess the rosters aren't extended, rather they keep the structure they had last year. The extended practice squad with 4 spots for veterans who aren't limited by service time...but that's just a guess.

 

Going to a 17th game really should require another bye week IMO and 5-7 more roster spots, but that'd cost the owners money, so I guess it's not a priority.

[PinaMadness]

I think all those 17th games should be played in London.

[HiAndTight]

I actually got fooled by an April 1st report. That the Jags were leaning towards Justin Fields as the #1 pick over Trevor Lawrence.

 

The problem with that joke...it's really not that outrageous. These 4 QB's are so talented and Fields and Lawrence have been so good for multiple years, it's entirely plausible to me that Fields ends up the best QB in this class. The same could be said for the other 3.

[nate82]

That is a lot for Darnold.

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jets-trade-qb-sam-darnold-to-panthers-new-york-gains-multiple-picks-for-former-first-round-qb/

 

Quick edit I think this is what a Love trade would look like if the Packers traded him. Maybe able to get a 2nd and 3rd plus a later round pick but value wise I think that matches up with what Love would be worth.

[PeaveyFury]

Hey, you have to clear roster space for the QB the Jets will overdraft this year then dump for far less value in 3 years when he flames out.

[MrTPlush]

Well if we rewind to the start of the offseason I think a team would have given up a first round pick + a little more. Jordan Love was a first round pick himself and got seasoned a bit behind Aaron Rodgers. I think the later would be somewhat attractive to a team. Say Washington or Chicago at 19/20...I definitely could/would see Love garnering a first in the range. Of course I am just hypothetically just mentioning those teams as there is no way the Packers would trade a QB to the Bears. I just think past the Top 10 I could definitely see a team pulling the trigger on Love. Love has the advantage of still being all potential and you can dream on that...Darnold? Sure there is potential, but there is a lot of ugly that has already been seen in reality.

 

Of course if you tried to trade him right now the value may not be as much as many teams have found QBs or have fallen in love with some QB in the draft.