2021 Miscellaneous NFL News

[OldHeidelberg]

Nice, just tuned in to KFAn for Viking Whine Line

[trwi7]

So the lions threw this game. Who goes for it up 2 4th and 1 from Own 28yd line? Then QB proceeds to fumble and give ball instead at 21yd line? Lions did this vs Chicago on Thanksgiving.

 

That wasn't even the worst play call. Earlier they had a 3rd and 10 from like the Vikings 34ish yard line and decided to run it because I guess they wanted a slightly easier FG attempt? Even though running it there basically says we want this drive to end and want no chance at a TD and there's also no guarantee that the running play gets them any closer to FG range.

 

Everyone talks about Campbell with reverence because of his personality, but maybe he’s actually a lousy head coach…..

 

It was hilarious watching his introductory press conference because everything he said just screams these guys will run through a wall for this guy...until they realize he can't coach and then they'll wonder why they're running through walls for a guy that has no clue what he's doing.

[brewcrewdue80]

So the lions threw this game. Who goes for it up 2 4th and 1 from Own 28yd line? Then QB proceeds to fumble and give ball instead at 21yd line? Lions did this vs Chicago on Thanksgiving.

 

That wasn't even the worst play call. Earlier they had a 3rd and 10 from like the Vikings 34ish yard line and decided to run it because I guess they wanted a slightly easier FG attempt? Even though running it there basically says we want this drive to end and want no chance at a TD and there's also no guarantee that the running play gets them any closer to FG range.

 

Everyone talks about Campbell with reverence because of his personality, but maybe he’s actually a lousy head coach…..

 

It was hilarious watching his introductory press conference because everything he said just screams these guys will run through a wall for this guy...until they realize he can't coach and then they'll wonder why they're running through walls for a guy that has no clue what he's doing.

No way is going for a 4th down inside your 30yard territory up by 2points with less than 2:20 remaining in the game a better call than attempting to improve FG range on a 10yard 3rd down where percentages to make likely less than 20pct. They burned a TO and then burned the last following a Viking 1st down. Game is over if Vikings just kneel and kick fg like Bears did thanksgiving.

[PinaMadness]

Harbaugh has the greatest kicker in NFL history at his disposal and he decides to go for it.

[nodakfan17]

RE: Ravens going for 2 and the win

 

If you make it, you look like a genius. If you don’t, you look really silly. I’m of the opinion that if you’re the inferior team, you should go for it (nothing to lose), but if you’re the better team (like Baltimore) kick the PAT and demonstrate your superiority in OT.

[homer]

I don't mind that call one bit. Particularly on the road.

 

edit: Harbaugh said they were down a bunch of corners. Didn't want overtime. Steelers were running over them all 4th quarter too

[homer]

So the lions threw this game. Who goes for it up 2 4th and 1 from Own 28yd line? Then QB proceeds to fumble and give ball instead at 21yd line? Lions did this vs Chicago on Thanksgiving.

 

It was the right call. Get half a yard, win the game.

[PinaMadness]

So the lions threw this game. Who goes for it up 2 4th and 1 from Own 28yd line? Then QB proceeds to fumble and give ball instead at 21yd line? Lions did this vs Chicago on Thanksgiving.

 

It was the right call. Get half a yard, win the game.

It was actually a genius move to go for it. If Detroit punts, they lose the game.

[DuWayne Steurer]

The Lions were 0-10-1 coming in. They had nothing to lose by going for it.

[OldHeidelberg]

It was actually a genius move to go for it. If Detroit punts, they lose the game.

 

I agree, giving a team the ball late needing a Fg to win at the end and enough field to run out the clock is a terrible choice. This way even if they don’t convert the Vikes can’t run The clock out and you get last possession no matter what happens. It was the right call and a complete no brainer at 0-10

[brewcrewdue80]

Minnesota had all 3 Timeouts. It's the wrong call. Detroit needed another 1st down if they converted to run out the clock. Just because they hadn't won a game this season doesn't make it a good call. They lucked out in to a win by Minnesota's (prevent D] allowing Detroit to get 8yard chunks easy in under 12 secs a pop. Any extra clock run before their TD would have forced Detroit in to a Hail Mary play. Think the final score has your heads agreeing on it being a good call. Detroit loses and you see my point.

 

To above. Det would have punted in a dome with 2 Timeouts remaining. Minnesota would likely needed at least 35yards for a confident chance at GW FG. That's a good yards to go for your defense to stop. And FG kicks aren't a given unless your Tucker. If Minnesota didn't have their Timeouts maybe I'd consider it a good (winless team play call) where the 1st down all but clinched the win.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Nobody has really played the Chiefs better than Jordan Love did for the last month.

[nodakfan17]

[sarcasm]Why are the Lions coaches wearing Nashville Predators hats?[/sarcasm]

My apologies … those were Oxford HS (Wildcats) hats.

 

I honestly thought they were some kind of alternative logo. They looked similar enough to a lion.

[homer]

Minnesota had all 3 Timeouts. It's the wrong call. Detroit needed another 1st down if they converted to run out the clock. Just because they hadn't won a game this season doesn't make it a good call. They lucked out in to a win by Minnesota's (prevent D] allowing Detroit to get 8yard chunks easy in under 12 secs a pop. Any extra clock run before their TD would have forced Detroit in to a Hail Mary play. Think the final score has your heads agreeing on it being a good call. Detroit loses and you see my point.

 

To above. Det would have punted in a dome with 2 Timeouts remaining. Minnesota would likely needed at least 35yards for a confident chance at GW FG. That's a good yards to go for your defense to stop. And FG kicks aren't a given unless your Tucker. If Minnesota didn't have their Timeouts maybe I'd consider it a good (winless team play call) where the 1st down all but clinched the win.

 

The math said it was a good call.

 

The fact that MN had all their TO's made it a better decision. Getting MN to burn all their timeouts would have been a good thing. If you punt with 4 min left, a 2 point lead, the odds of you getting the ball back are slim....particularly if you are Detroit. I think you are calling it a bad call because they didn't make it.

[TURBO]

Question.

 

If the Lions were the Packers, in that exact same situation, would you have wanted them to go for it there?

 

My bet is that had the Packers lost a game in that same exact scenario, this board would have blown up.

 

I think it was a stupid call. Get stopped, lose the game automatically. Punt it, and the Vikings at least have to be successful getting back into field goal range, then kick it to win. Anything can happen in that situation, fumbles, picks, miscues. What the Lions did, did all but guarantee the Vikings victory, unless of course, they miss a chip shot field goal.

 

It was a really stupid idea to go for it there, and in the end sealed the game on the spot.

[TURBO]

It was actually a genius move to go for it. If Detroit punts, they lose the game.

 

False.

 

They still had to go down the field and get into field goal range to win it. Not a given.

[Fear The Chorizo]

I think it was a stupid call. Get stopped, lose the game automatically.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Lions did indeed get stopped but still wound up winning the game, yes? I don't see the point of creating an absolute hypothetical out of thin air when the first part of the premise actually occurred, then the actual game outcome was exactly the opposite of automatically losing.

 

Since the Vikings had all 3 timeouts and the Lions only had 2 at the time (they did burn one before that 4th down call, I think), from a clock management standpoint it was the perfect call to guarantee the Lions at least one extra possession - had they converted, the next series of downs likely would've forced Minnesota to start burning timeouts and one more 1st down likely seals the win for Detroit. Worst case they punt it away closer to the 2 minute warning and the Vikings have a long field to get into FG range with about 2 minutes left - still very attainable for Detroit to lose in that situation with a FG at the end of regulation, btw.

 

They failed to convert and it gave the Vikings possession with 4 mins left in the red zone - The Vikings managed to run 6 plays before scoring a TD, but that left 2 minutes on the clock for the Lions to have one more shot. And they scored with that shot - Even a terrible team can drive the ball down the field and score a TD in an end of game situation if given 2 minutes to do so.

 

Time left on the clock and game situation actually pointed to it being more advantageous for the Lions to go for it in that spot and not punt. I think the playcall on 4th and short was atrocious, but that doesn't mean I didn't like the decision to go for it.

[jerichoholicninja]

Had they just run up the middle and been stopped short I don't think it would seem as bad as it did since instead Jared Goff turned into a comedy act and was quickly sacked for a 10 yard loss and fumbled.

[PinaMadness]

It was actually a genius move to go for it. If Detroit punts, they lose the game.

 

False.

 

They still had to go down the field and get into field goal range to win it. Not a given.

Nothing's a given. It was a almost certainty though.

[adambr2]

I love that when there's a bad call made in the NFL, the replay officials very often now just look at it quickly and fix the call on the field without a challenge. Very good improvement to the replay system.

[igor67]

I remember liking the call at the time, because of the weirdness were giving up a quick field goal did turn out not to be that bad. I couldn't imagine a normal team thinking that way (blah, blah confidence in our defense and other coach speak). I'm curious how often in end of the game situations anymore teams can get 30 yards or so to get into FG range in that situation assuming they had punted instead. Putting the other team in 4 down territory certainly makes it tougher to play defense.

[homer]

Patriots won and attempted only 3 passes.

[DuWayne Steurer]

and here we are, with the Patriots sitting on the #1 seed. yaaaay.....

[TURBO]

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Lions did indeed get stopped but still wound up winning the game, yes?

 

No, the Vikings won...

[TURBO]

and here we are, with the Patriots sitting on the #1 seed. yaaaay.....

 

The NFL is wetting their pants in anticipation of a Patriots (Belichick) vs Bucs (Tom Brady) Super Bowl...