Brewers sign Jackie Bradley Jr. (2-year/$24M with player option after first year.)

[homer]

Random JBJ observation: he is very much a spray hitter.

 

[brewcrewdue80]

The team is better after this signing. Well done. Garcia/JBJ are a better 4th OF option than Taylor. Speaking of option. Mentioned 12mil option for 2nd year equals Garcia's option. JBJ's is an opt out but now you've got an easier decision depending on dates needing to declare each.

The timing on deal is close after the final decision on DH. Vogelbach has to be gone as a result. That or a trade is happening....today?

[DuWayne Steurer]

Good move. This makes for a much stronger outfield all around.

 

I agree that it's sad this pretty much closes the door on Braun coming back as well.

 

Yep. No DH really sealed the deal for that, I think. About the only thing I really could picture is maybe him coming back in September and playing a pH/2 day a week starter role and carrying the team to the playoffs once again.

 

That's actually kind of a silly fantasy. I would love to see the guy get in a bed in front of the home fans but I just don't see it happening. But Jackie Bradley Jr feels a need that Braun couldn't fill anymore.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Random JBJ observation: he is very much a spray hitter.

 

 

 

I find myself Wondering what the distance was on that outlier home run to deep right center field. Because that must have been a monster shot

[SoCalBrewfan]

I for one will not consider it spending money until the contract value ends in 99 cents, e.g., $23,999,999.99. Everyone knows that even numbers are dollar store prices and that doesn't count. (Also, some help here...these goalposts aren't going to move themselves, folks...)

[DuWayne Steurer]

Here's a random thought. I apologize if someone previously posted it in the thread. Probably not but I'm just wondering, thinking out loud if Stearns gave Braun one last phone call and said hey Ryan, I've got a deal on the fence here and I just really need to touch base with you one more time what your thoughts on coming back etc etc before he finalized this deal. I kind of doubt it personally, but it's just a thought that kind of popped into my head.

[AdvantageSchneider]

Can we now put to bed any notion that this team won't spend money or has no money? That has been strongly disproved.

 

Though I like this signing, for me anyway, this doesn't tell me or show me the Brewers won't spend money. It's a two year deal with an opt out after 1 at 12 million/yr. VERY team friendly. To show me they are willing/can spend money I would need to see some long term deals..3 years minimum(preferably 4-5) for Free agents before I'm inclined to think they will spend $$. No, re signing Yelich doesn't count(in my book). Now get 2 or more other guys locked up like that, THEN I will be convinced they spend money.

 

Based on this theory the Padres signing Tatis Jr. doesn't prove they will spend money either. That sounds like a dumb theory to me.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I for one will not consider it spending money until the contract value ends in 99 cents, e.g., $23,999,999.99. Everyone knows that even numbers are dollar store prices and that doesn't count. (Also, some help here...these goalposts aren't going to move themselves, folks...)

 

Several posters: "Brewers aren't going to spend any money this year. Get ready for another offseason of dumpster diving! This team is terrible, and Mark A. should sell if he never wants to spend any of his millions!"

 

Brewers announce the signing of former All-Stars and Gold Glove defenders Kolten Wong and Jackie Bradley Jr. to multi-year deals.

 

Same posters: "Not those guys! I'm talking about signing guys to 8-year, $200 million contracts!"

 

You mean like they did with Christian Yelich?

 

Same posters: "No! Every guy on our team sucks! Why would that count?"

[homer]

JBJ balls in play in 2019 overlayed on Miller Park. I don't know if you can limit the graph to ABs at home. This is every ball in play in every stadium.

 

[SandyTolan]

[speaking of Braun, am I the only one with a tinge of sadness that this closes the book on any chance that Braun returns?

 

I still think there's a chance there'll be a DH, and that Braun will be signed to pair with Vogelbach at DH. Braun could also be backup 1B and emergency OF. But it all depends on the DH. A lot of NL teams were at the Cespedes show the other day, which could mean they know something...

[Roderick]

For all of those crying about payroll, lucky I'm not the owner. I probably wouldn't have spent as much as we have already for this season because of last year's losses.

 

But, I wonder if a little more money freed up when we (MA) saw that the other teams in the division were not going to make many additions, and that we could be one of the favorites to get to the playoffs.

[Brewcrewin07]

Do you think Haudricourt wakes up on a morning like this and pages back to his "the Brewers have no money to spend" article and cries a little bit?

 

They signed two players for what Braun made last year, and a handful of other free agents with multi-million dollar deals walked. Haudricourt still isn’t wrong.

 

Bingo!! While people want to see this as "the Brewers spending money", it's basically just replacing a contract you had on the books last year(Braun). That's not INCREASING the $$ you spent last year. truly spending money to me, is increasing the payroll consistently, and never dropping it down below a certain level

[Eye Black]

JBJ balls in play in 2019 overlayed on Miller Park. I don't know if you can limit the graph to ABs at home. This is every ball in play in every stadium.

 

I can't wait to see where those balls listed as "In Progress" land!

[SeaBass]

Yelich was their own guy...I personally don't count that. I expect my teams to re sign their most important players. I'm talking about doing that with Free Agents, ADDED to your own guy(s) you re signed.

These are just guys I could think of off the top of my head. I could be forgetting some.

 

Paul Molitor - left in FA

Richie Sexton - traded

C.C. Sabathia - left in FA

Zack Grienke - traded

Prince Fielder - left in FA

Carlos Gomez - traded

Jonathan Lucroy - traded

Mike Moustakas - left in FA

Yasmani Grandal - left in FA

 

These are all guys I'm sure the team would have preferred to keep but were unable to re-sign or were going to become too expensive to re-sign.

 

So I'd say re-signing their own guys counts.

[homer]

Random JBJ observation: he is very much a spray hitter.

 

 

 

I find myself Wondering what the distance was on that outlier home run to deep right center field. Because that must have been a monster shot

 

It was in Colorado. 478 feet (roughly 1 minute mark)

[PeaveyFury]

Do you think Haudricourt wakes up on a morning like this and pages back to his "the Brewers have no money to spend" article and cries a little bit?

 

They signed two players for what Braun made last year, and a handful of other free agents with multi-million dollar deals walked. Haudricourt still isn’t wrong.

 

Of course he is. The article was that the Brewers needed to cut payroll and weren't going to sign anyone. They haven't really cut payroll and signed two name free agents, along with bringing in/back guys like Shaw and Anderson. His article was blatantly incorrect.

[djoctagone]

The timing on deal is close after the final decision on DH. Vogelbach has to be gone as a result. That or a trade is happening....today?

i don't see how the brewers keep both derek fisher and billy mckinney--neither of whom have options--and neither have ever played in a big league game for the brewers.

 

their lack of minor league options absolutely isn't going to change. the allowance of the designated hitter, although unlikely, still could happen.

[homer]

Do you think Haudricourt wakes up on a morning like this and pages back to his "the Brewers have no money to spend" article and cries a little bit?

 

I think he wakes up and goes on Twitter to see what's happening with the Brewers.

 

I think Tom gets a bad rap most of the time but this made me laugh.

[liveforoctober]

Do you think Haudricourt wakes up on a morning like this and pages back to his "the Brewers have no money to spend" article and cries a little bit?

 

They signed two players for what Braun made last year, and a handful of other free agents with multi-million dollar deals walked. Haudricourt still isn’t wrong.

 

Bingo!! While people want to see this as "the Brewers spending money", it's basically just replacing a contract you had on the books last year(Braun). That's not INCREASING the $$ you spent last year. truly spending money to me, is increasing the payroll consistently, and never dropping it down below a certain level

 

So if Milwaukee steps way over their line this year and increases payroll to $200 million in a 'go or it' move and then next year that digresses to $150 million to get back to a salary supported by the business structure, did we stop spending money because we dropped in payroll or ... ?

[StearnsFTW]

Can we now put to bed any notion that this team won't spend money or has no money? That has been strongly disproved.

 

Though I like this signing, for me anyway, this doesn't tell me or show me the Brewers won't spend money. It's a two year deal with an opt out after 1 at 12 million/yr. VERY team friendly. To show me they are willing/can spend money I would need to see some long term deals..3 years minimum(preferably 4-5) for Free agents before I'm inclined to think they will spend $$. No, re signing Yelich doesn't count(in my book). Now get 2 or more other guys locked up like that, THEN I will be convinced they spend money.

 

Based on this theory the Padres signing Tatis Jr. doesn't prove they will spend money either. That sounds like a dumb theory to me.

 

Angels give Trout $430,000,000. Angels=cheap.

[bergstein24]

Random JBJ observation: he is very much a spray hitter.

 

 

 

I find myself Wondering what the distance was on that outlier home run to deep right center field. Because that must have been a monster shot

 

It was in Colorado. 478 feet (roughly 1 minute mark)

 

This is 2019 overlayed with Miller Park.

[StearnsFTW]

NM. Pointless.

[Jopal78]

Do you think Haudricourt wakes up on a morning like this and pages back to his "the Brewers have no money to spend" article and cries a little bit?

 

They signed two players for what Braun made last year, and a handful of other free agents with multi-million dollar deals walked. Haudricourt still isn’t wrong.

 

Of course he is. The article was that the Brewers needed to cut payroll and weren't going to sign anyone. They haven't really cut payroll and signed two name free agents, along with bringing in/back guys like Shaw and Anderson. His article was blatantly incorrect.

 

Says you, I suppose. Off the top of my head they’re down 40+ million from last year with Braun, Sogard, Smoak, Gyorko, Knebel gone, all of whom not named Braun all had contracts in excess of 4 million dollars. On top of that, Arcia, Narvaez and Brett Anderson all took pay cuts. In terms of major league guaranteed contracts they signed Wong for 9 and Bradley for 12. Haudricourt still has the math right, even if you don’t like him.

 

Obviously the reader isn’t supposed to take him literally when he says they aren’t “going to sign anyone”. I doubt a team has ever fielded a 40 man roster where all 40 players were in their organization the year before

[owbc]

I don’t want to make assumptions but one doesn’t make this signing if Cain is expected to start 140-150 games.

 

Or...they think the NL Central is wide open and decided to spend now rather than hold onto the cash for a trade deadline deal. We’ll see. I assume the DH situation also influenced the Brewers’ thinking. Braun is sitting around as a .750 OPS 4th OF/DH option but with no DH it makes more sense to spend that cash on defense—especially if Cain is a question mark.

 

As for money...I measure success based on wins, not FA dollars spent.

[StearnsFTW]

 

They signed two players for what Braun made last year, and a handful of other free agents with multi-million dollar deals walked. Haudricourt still isn’t wrong.

 

Of course he is. The article was that the Brewers needed to cut payroll and weren't going to sign anyone. They haven't really cut payroll and signed two name free agents, along with bringing in/back guys like Shaw and Anderson. His article was blatantly incorrect.

 

Says you, I suppose. Off the top of my head they’re done 40+ million from last year with Braun, Sogard, Smoak, Gyorko, Knebel gone, all of who. Those not named Braun all had contracts in excess of 4 million dollars. On top of that, Arcia, Narvaez and Brett Anderson all took pay cuts. In terms of major league guaranteed contracts they signed Wong for 9 and Bradley for 12. Haudricourt still has the math right, even if you don’t like him.

 

Obviously the reader isn’t supposed to take him literally when he says they aren’t “going to sign anyone”. I doubt a team has ever fielded a 40 man roster where all 40 players were in their organization the year before

 

Except Tommy said that 6 weeks ago. And the Brewers have spent roughly $25M (conservatively) since then.

 

So no, as usual, Tommy doesn't have the math right.