BF.net Fan Community Top 25 Prospects - 2021 Pre-Season Edition - Voting closed.

[reillymcshane]

Greeting, we would like to invite everyone to take part in the 2020 Pre-Season BF.net Fan Community Top 25 Prospects voting.

 

Voting is now open. You need to submit on this thread your top 25 Brewer prospects. Feel free to list any resources or news that you feel might help people with their voting.

 

Voting concludes on March 19. You can change your votes at anytime through that date.

 

RULES

 

1. Submit your Top 25 prospects, in order, by end of day on March 19, 2021. Put the player's full name to avoid any confusion. I appreciate it you would number them. Also, please list your players from #1 to #25.

2. You MUST submit 25 prospects. If there are only 10 or 15 or whatever, your list will not be included.

3. You are encouraged to go beyond pick #25. This way if a player you vote for is released or traded, or you list someone twice, or whatever, we can just bump up your next player.

4. Rankings are determined by total points. The top prospect gets 25 points, second prospect gets 24 points, etc.

4. As noted above, if you submit your list and want to change something, just add the change to the thread via the edit function. I'll accept changes up to the deadline.

5. Within a week or so after the deadline, we'll publish the new BF.net Community Top 25.

 

Eligibility guidelines

 

Rookie eligibility is determined by the same standards as MLB:

 

“A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).”

 

- Players graduated from Top 25 list: Drew Rasmussen (3), Devin Williams (16), Jacob Nottingham (20)

- Other players who have exceeded rookie limits: Eric Yardley

- Eligible players with ML experience: JP Feyereisen, Bobby Wahl, Tyrone Taylor, Angel Perdomo, Justin Topa, Phil Bickford, Mark Mathias

 

If there are any questions, you can check out Baseball-Reference.com and each players has a 'rookie status' row. It will tell you if a person is or isn't a rookie.

 

Players no longer in organization

 

- Michael Mediavilla - released

- Carlos Luna - released

- Joangtel Segovia - released

- Aaron Wilkerson - Free agent

- Anthony Bender - released

- Francisco Gonzalez - released

- Aaron Familia - released

 

We will add any other names here if someone is dealt or released or there is an error.

 

New players in organization to consider

 

Here are last year's draft picks you may want to consider.

 

1 (20). Garrett Mitchell, OF, UCLA

2 (53). Freddy Zamora, SS, Miami

3 (92). Zavier Warren, C/IF, Central Michigan

4 (121). Joey Wiemer, OF, Cincinnati

5 (151). Hayden Cantrelle, SS, Louisiana-Lafayette

 

I'm not sure about international signings - so please leave a note in the comments if you think someone is worth adding here.

 

Prospect Rankings

 

Please look at the BF.net prospect ranking thread - all sorts of great stuff - and people are always adding links to new lists and reviews.

 

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=40016

 

Otherwise, here are some of the pre-season reports.

 

MLB Pipeline: https://www.mlb.com/prospects/top100/

The Athletic (paywall): https://theathletic.com/2338178/2021/01/28/keith-law-top-100-prospects-2021/

Pitcher's List: https://www.pitcherlist.com/milwaukee-brewers-2021-preseason-top-50-prospects/

Prospects Live: https://www.prospectslive.com/lists/2021/1/5/milwaukee-brewers-2021-prospect-rankings

Baseball America (paywall): https://www.baseballamerica.com/rankings/

Baseball Prospectus (paywall): https://www.baseballprospectus.com/prospects/2021-prospects-top-10-lists/

Fangraphs: https://www.fangraphs.com/prospects/the-board/2021-prospect-list/summary?sort=-1,1

 

I will add others as they are made available. And again, check the prospect listing thread.

 

Previous Polls

 

BF.net 2020 Pre-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=39654

BF.net 2019 Mid-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=38964

BF.net 2019 Pre-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=38282

BF.net 2018 Post-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=37894

BF.net 2018 Mid-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=37395

BF.net 2018 Pre-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=36597

BF.net 2017 Post-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=36082

BF.net 2017 Mid-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=35723

BF.net 2017 Pre-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=35089

BF.net 2016 Post-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=34747

BF.net 2016 Mid-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=34472

BF.net 2016 Pre-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=33867

BF.net 2015 Post-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=33436

BF.net 2015 Mid-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=33032

BF.net 2015 Pre-Season Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=32447

BF.net August 2014 Top 25 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=31859

BF.net May 2014 Top 20 - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=31355

 

Please note that we reserve the right to throw out ballots if we feel that the voting was done without following the rules or spirit of the exercise.

 

Thanks for participating!

[reillymcshane]

Hey folks, please vote for our 2021 pre-season poll.

 

We have had three players graduate (D. Williams, Nottingham, Rasmussen), so there will definitely be some new blood.

 

Note the recent draft picks, and if I'm missing anyone important, please put a note in this thread and I will add to the intro.

[reillymcshane]

Interesting note: Tyrone Taylor was #2 on our very first poll back in 2014. Seven years later, he is still eligible for voting. No one else from Top 40 or so players is eligible anymore.

 

The players still with Milwaukee from that initial list: Orlando Arcia, Devin Williams and Brent Suter.

 

viewtopic.php?f=64&t=39654

[reillymcshane]

One final note: please refrain from mocking or slamming other people's listings. That's the not the point of this. If you want to - politely - ask a person about why they voted how they did - that's fine. But please be respectful of this process and everyone taking part. Thanks.

[brooks_quichenick]

1. Garrett Mitchell (OF)

2. Brice Turang (SS)

3. Antoine Kelly (P)

4. Ethan Small (P)

5. Mario Feliciano ©

6. Hedbert Perez (OF)

7. Tristan Lutz (OF)

8. Aaron Ashby (P)

9. Eduardo Garcia (SS)

10. Freddy Zamora (SS)

11. Luis Medina (OF)

12. Jeferson Quero ©

13. Micah Bello (OF)

14. Dylan File (P)

15. David Hamilton (SS)

16. Corey Ray (OF)

17. Alec Bettinger (P)

18. Payton Henry ©

19. Hayden Cantrelle (SS)

20. Max Lazar (P)

21. Carlos Rodriguez (OF)

22. Victor Castaneda (P)

23. Zavier Warren ©

24. Thomas Dillard (1B)

25. Joe Gray Jr. (OF)

26. Phil Bickford (P)

27. Jesus Parra (3B)

28. Zach Brown (P)

29. Jackson Chourio (SS)

30. Nick Bennett (P)

31. Tyrone Taylor (OF)

32. Ernesto Martinez (1B)

33. Bowden Francis (P)

34. Je'Von Ward (OF)

35. Nick Kahle ©

36. Joey Wiemer (OF)

37. Eduarqui Fernandez (OF)

38. Pablo Abreu (OF)

39. Alexis Ramirez (P)

40. Lun Zhao (P)

[CheeseheadInQC]

Out of curiosity since he isn't on either list, is Mathias eligible?

[Eye Black]

Thanks as always for doing this reilly!

 

In remembrance of the Power 50 I'll stretch my list a bit...

 

1) Brice Turang, SS

2) Garrett Mitchell, OF

3) Mario Feliciano, C

4) Hedbert Perez, OF

5) Ethan Small, LHP

6) Antonie Kelly, LHP

7) Freddy Zamora, SS

8) Aaron Ashby, LHP

9) Eduardo Garcia, SS

10) Carlos Rodriguez, OF

11) Jeferson Quero, C

12) Tristen Lutz, OF

13) Zavier Warren, C

14) Micah Bello, OF

15) Hayden Cantrelle, SS

16) Jackson Brayan Chourio, SS/OF

17) Luis Medina, OF

18) David Hamilton, SS

19) Tyrone Taylor, OF

20) Corey Ray, OF

21) Dylan File, RHP

22) Jesus Parra, OF

23) Clayton Andrews, LHP/OF

24) Max Lazar, RHP

25) Jheremy Vargas, SS

26) Alec Bettinger, RHP

27) Bowden Francis, RHP

28) Victor Castenada, RHP

29) Thomas Dillard, 1B/OF/C

30) Payton Henry, C

31) Nick Kahle, C

32) Joey Wiemer, OF

33) Pablo Abreu, OF

34) Gabe Holt, 2B

35) Cooper Hummel, OF

36) Zach Brown, RHP

37) Abner Uribe, RHP

38) Joe Gray, OF

39) Justin Topa, RHP

40) Angel Perdomo, LHP

41) Quintin Torres-Costa, LHP

42) Thomas Jankins, RHP

43) Leo Crawford, LHP

44) Phil Bickford, RHP

45) Andre Nnebe, OF

46) Noah Zavolas, RHP

47) Brandon Ramey, RHP

48) Eduarqui Fernandez, OF

49) Je'Von Ward, OF

50) Justin Jarvis, RHP

[sveumrules]

Out of curiosity since he isn't on either list, is Mathias eligible?

 

BRef list Mathias as maintaing rookie status for 2021, so I believe he should still be eligible.

[wallus]

1. Garrett Mitchell (OF)

2. Antoine Kelly (P)

3. Ethan Small (P)

4. Mario Feliciano ©

5. Hedbert Perez (OF)

6. Aaron Ashby (P)

7. Brice Turang (SS)

8. Tristan Lutz (OF)

9. Payton Henry ©

10. Freddy Zamora (SS)

11. Hayden Cantrelle (SS)

12. Carlos Rodriguez (OF)

13. Dylan File (P)

14. Joe Gray Jr. (OF)

15. Luis Medina (OF)

16. Eduardo Garcia (SS)

17. Zavier Warren ©

18. Phil Bickford (P)

19. Nick Bennett (P)

20. Alec Bettinger (P)

21. Micah Bello (OF)

22. Max Lazar (P)

23. Nick Kahle ©

24. Joey Wiemer (OF)

25. Lun Zhao (P)

 

Honestly, we have so many international guys that I have no clue on that this could have been a top 15 list.

[reillymcshane]

Out of curiosity since he isn't on either list, is Mathias eligible?

 

BRef list Mathias as maintaing rookie status for 2021, so I believe he should still be eligible.

You are correct. Thanks for catching him. I will update him on the intro post.

 

Also, going to baseball-reference.com and checking the 'rookie status' row is how I'm going by things. So check there if anyone else is missing.

[reillymcshane]

1. Garrett Mitchell (OF)

2. Brice Turang (SS)

3. Antoine Kelly (P)

4. Ethan Small (P)

5. Mario Feliciano ©

6. Hedbert Perez (OF)

7. Tristan Lutz (OF)

Thank you for kicking off the poll, brooks_quichenick. Appreciate it.

[CheeseheadInQC]

1. Garrett Mitchell

2. Brice Turang

3. Antoine Kelly

4. Aaron Ashby

5. Mario Feliciano

6. Hedbert Perez

7. Ethan Small

8. Eduardo Garcia

9. Tristen Lutz

10. Freddy Zamora

11. Corey Ray

12. Dylan File

13. Alec Bettinger

14. Micah Bello

15. Zack Brown

16. Payton Henry

17. Jeferson Quero

18. Carlos Rodriguez

19. Bowden Francis

20. Thomas Dillard

21. Max Lazar

22. Jesus Parra

23. Tyrone Taylor

24. Pablo Abreu

25. Israel Puello

26. Justin Topa

27. Zavier Warren

28. Joe Gray

29. Luis Medina

30. Michele Vassalotti

31. Justin Jarvis

32. Brandon Ramey

33. Phil Bickford

34. Hayden Cantrelle

35. David Hamilton

36. Jackson Brayan Chourio

37. Victor Castaneda

38. Gabe Holt

39. Jhonnys Cabrera

40. Mark Mathias

41. Angel Perdomo

42. Nick Kahle

43. Nick Bennett

44. Alexis Ramirez

45. Leo Crawford

46. Zach Green

47. Reese Olson

48. David Fry

49. Clayton Andrews

50. Eduarqui Fernandez

51. Joey Weimer

52. Jheremy Vargas

53. Je'Von Ward

54. Chad Spanberger

55. Korry Howell

56. Juan Geraldo

57. Andre Nnebe

58. Bobby Wahl

59. Arbert Cipion

60. Cooper Hummel

61. Branlyn Jaraba

62. Quintin Torres-Costa

63. Noah Zavalos

64. Braden Webb

65. Felix Valerio

 

Not sure why I went through 65. 22-36 were pretty close.

[brooks_quichenick]

1. Garrett Mitchell (OF)

2. Brice Turang (SS)

3. Antoine Kelly (P)

4. Ethan Small (P)

5. Mario Feliciano ©

6. Hedbert Perez (OF)

7. Tristan Lutz (OF)

Thank you for kicking off the poll, brooks_quichenick. Appreciate it.

 

Thanks for continuing to set this up for us!

[reillymcshane]

1. Garrett Mitchell (OF)

2. Brice Turang (SS)

3. Antoine Kelly (P)

4. Ethan Small (P)

5. Mario Feliciano ©

6. Hedbert Perez (OF)

7. Tristan Lutz (OF)

Thank you for kicking off the poll, brooks_quichenick. Appreciate it.

 

Thanks for continuing to set this up for us!

7 years ago I made the offer to run things. No one else ever wants to do it - so now it's just sort of my thing. It's fun, but can be a bit time consuming in crunch time. But that's life.

[Austin Tatious]

Thank you, Reilly. I might update mine as I think further. I will say this was one of the toughest ones to ever do because of the lack of a minor league season. You have to read kind of between the lines. The silence on some guys was deafening. For example, I’ve heard almost nothing about Corey Ray. So I dinged him quite a bit. But he was an extra base machine in 2018 and then was hurt in 2019. He will probably never have a good hit tool but maybe can get some extra base hits. I have just a final tinge of hope with him that he can be a MLB player soon.

 

For a system that gets dogged quite a bit, I’m pretty optimistic on our top 20 or so players. We will see if my theory ages well. We have some guys who I think will add juice to the MLB club in the next 3-4 years. I’d say this list could very well prove to be better than some prior year lists that were touted such as the years we had Brinson at the top.

 

 

1) Garrett Mitchell, OF

2) Antoine Kelly, LHP

3) Hedbert Perez, OF

4) Brice Turang, SS

5) Aaron Ashby, LHP

6) Jeferson Quero, C

7) Mario Feliciano, C

8) Ethan Small, LHP

9) Eduardo Garcia, SS

10) Tristen Lutz, OF

11) Freddy Zamora, SS

12) Hayden Cantrelle, SS

13) Jackson Brayan Chourio, SS/OF

14) Zavier Warren, C

15) Luis Medina, OF

16) Payton Henry, C

17) David Hamilton, SS

18) Jesus Parra, 3B

19) Dylan File, RHP

20) Carlos Rodriguez, OF

21) Max Lazar, RHP

22) Micah Bello, OF

23) Corey Ray, OF

24) Victor Castenada, RHP

25) Ernesto Martinez, 1B

26) Thomas Dillard, 1B/OF/C

27) Nick Kahle, C

28) Joe Gray, OF

29) Abner Uribe, RHP

[nate82]

1. Hedbert Perez

2. Brice Turang

3. Garrett Mitchell

4. Mario Feliciano

5. Ethan Small

6. Tristen Lutz

7. Aaron Ashby

8. Antoine Kelly

9. Freddy Zamora

10.Luis Medina

11. Carlos Rodriguez

12. Joe Gray

13. Jesus Parra

14. Eduardo Garcia

15. Micah Bello

16. Pablo Abreu

17. Max Lazar

18. Corey Ray

19. Dylan File

20. Thomas Dillard

21. Zavier Warren

22. Nick Kahle

23. Jeferson Quero

24. Payton Henry

25. Zack Brown

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

1. Garrett Mitchell, CF

2. Mario Feliciano, C

3. Tristen Lutz, RF

4. Brice Turang, SS

5. Ethan Small, SP

6. Aaron Ashby, SP

7. Freddy Zamora, SS

8. Antoine Kelly, SP

9. Hedbert Perez, LF

10. Alec Betinger, SP

11. Dylan File, SP

12. Micah Bello, CF

13. Je'Von Ward, CF

14. Clayton Andrews, RP

15. Hayden Cantrelle, SS

16. Zavier Warren, C

17. Joe Gray, CF

18. Payton Henry, C

19. Carlos Rodriguez, 1B

20. Eduardo Garcia, SS

21. Joey Wiemer, RF

22. Zach Green, 3B

23. Corey Ray, CF

24. Thomas Dillard, 1B

25. David Hamilton, SS

[homer]

1) Garrett Mitchell, OF

2) Brice Turang, SS

3) Ethan Small, LHP

4) Antoine Kelly, LHP

5) Mario Feliciano, C

6) Aaron Ashby, LHP

7) Eduardo Garcia, SS

8) Hedbert Perez, OF

9) Freddy Zamora, SS

10) Carlos Rodriguez, OF

11) Luis Medina, OF

12) Tristen Lutz, OF

13) Zavier Warren, C

14) Micah Bello, OF

15) Hayden Cantrelle, SS

16) Jackson Brayan Chourio, SS/OF

17) Jeferson Quero, C

18) David Hamilton, SS

19) Tyrone Taylor, OF

20) Corey Ray, OF

21) Dylan File, RHP

22) Jesus Parra, OF

23) Clayton Andrews, LHP/OF

24) Max Lazar, RHP

25) Jheremy Vargas, SS

[reillymcshane]

I'm loving all the voting so far.

 

Please throw out your support for specific players if you want to promote them. This is especially true for the young international players - who many of us (including myself) know little about. This is especially true since we don't have data from last year.

 

Thanks!

[ctmyers]

1 Ethan Small SP

2 Garrett Mitchell OF

3 Brice Turang SS

4 Aaron Ashby SP

5 Freddy Zamora SS

6 Max Lazar SP

7 Antoine Kelly SP

8 Mario Feliciano C

9 Nick Bennett SP

10 Jacob Nottingham C

11 Zack Brown SP

12 Tristen Lutz OF

13 Carlos Rodriguez OF

14 Corey Ray OF

15 Eduardo Garcia SS

16 Thomas Dillard 1B

17 Clayton Andrews RP

18 Phil Bickford RP

19 Braden Webb SP

20 Micah Bello OF

21 Quintin Torres-Costa RP

22 Tyrone Taylor OF

23 Justin Jarvis SP

24 JP Feyereisen RP

25 David Fry C

[Eye Black]

**Post Removed**

 

Sorry everyone I made a mistake and my post contained some content that was subscription based. I’ve removed the post, but given time at some point I’ll try to replace this post with a few notes on the players that were previously listed.

[reillymcshane]

Please throw out your support for specific players if you want to promote them. This is especially true for the young international players - who many of us (including myself) know little about. This is especially true since we don't have data from last year.

Here are some recent nuggets for guys under consideration mostly outside the current top ten...

Thanks, Eye Black. This was awesome to have.

[CheeseheadInQC]

Since I'm the only one to mention him so far, my reasoning on Israel Puello:

 

Moderately high dollar signing ($400K-$500K if I remember correctly) with fairly prototypical size and was above 90 as an 18-year-old. I believe only two starting pitchers currently in the Brewers minor league system logged at least 50 IP in 2019 with 10+ K/9 and less than 3 BB/9: Puello and Max Lazar. Had the best K-BB% of qualifying pitchers in the DSL.

 

Reading Eye Black's list reminded me of one of the things I'm looking forward to this coming season: seeing who from among the next tier of pitching prospects after those who were at the alternate site break through. You've got the Phelps trade trio, Vassalotti, Ramirez, Bennett, Jarvis, Olson, Castaneda, Crawford, Zavalos, etc. Given the sheer number and that the Brewers have seemed to improve at developing pitching in recent years, I have to think a few of them make at least a File/Bettinger type of leap.

[redskyatnight]

Although often overlooked and not highly regarded by the publications...us Georgia fans always pull for our boy Gabe Holt...2019 7th rounder who hit for a combined average of 315 while at the 60 man and instructionals....after only 2 ABs in March before the 2020 shutdown. Always walks softly and quietly until its time to play...

[Austin Tatious]

Thank you, Eye Black. Great Info. I rated Quero and Hamilton high. Long way to go, but they profile really well so I gave them good rankings. With Hamilton, from what I’ve read over time is he had a big injury his last year at Texas but might have otherwise been in the conversation for the first round. That’s classic David Stearns taking advantage of a market inefficiency in the eighth round. I think we were all excited in our post draft talk here too.

 

Maybe I’m a baseball nerd, but with the absence of minor league ball last season, I am especially excited to see how all of our prospects play this year. Info has been so sparse. I hope guys aren’t shaking too much rust off. The first part of the season could be rough.

 

Our group of Latin players is the largest, most compelling group we’ve ever had IMO. It will still be awhile but playing the odds, hopefully more than our share of guys will emerge. Who knows, maybe in a few years we are looking at Perez in right, Quero at catcher, Parra at third, and a couple of those live arms all in Milwaukee. Our drafting is more inspired and our Latin signings look promising.

 

We had a dry period in our system for years. Some of it was uninspired drafting. But we didn’t get enough Latin talent. Peralta and Arcia come to mind, but you’d look at good systems at the time and they’d have more juice on their prospect lists from Latin America. We are on our trajectory to that point.

 

Sorry this is long. But how about the pitching lab and development! We have so many guys with strong upticks in velocity. I was surprised by File in this regard last spring but it’s happening with such stunning frequency that you have to give credit to the organization’s program with pitching.

 

People want to knock the occasional weird signing but the infrastructure and analysis within the organization has gone sky high under Stearns. For the skeptics, I grant you that guys haven’t proven it. But when we look back in five years, I think our current top 25 will prove to be very good. And keep in mind, I was a big critic of our drafting and development in the past. So this isn’t just me being a homer.