2021 Brewers Optimism Thread

[pacopete4]

Craziest losing streak I’ve ever witnessed! 7-game lead!

[Eye Black]

From Jesse Rogers:

 

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Cubs drop from first place to 9 games back in 12 days is tied for the largest fall for a first place team in a 12 day span since 1969. The 2011 Pirates did the same. In this case its leading the Cubs to a July sell off.

[PeaveyFury]

From Jesse Rogers:

 

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Cubs drop from first place to 9 games back in 12 days is tied for the largest fall for a first place team in a 12 day span since 1969. The 2011 Pirates did the same. In this case its leading the Cubs to a July sell off.

 

Insanity. In a lot of ways, it would be best for the Brewers for the Cubs to stay vaguely competitive so they get little to nothing (other than comp picks) for Rizzo/Bryant while chasing a pipedream ala the 2018 Pirates.

 

Well, REALLY best would be to acquire Rizzo/Bryant from the Cubs, but that seems too greedy even for the optimism thread....

[Lathund]

Cubs being big-time buyers and doing stupid things like trade upper-minors prospects like Amaya for rentals, while also not getting anything for their own rentals, would have been fantastic for the Brewers chances over the next few years. Basically forcing the Cubs to build an entire roster in free agency.

 

Them being sellers this year is great for this year though.

[bork]

Cubs are throwing in the towel, now lets bury the Reds going into the break.

[JCREW]

Ideally, they’ll hope to capture some Stearns magic, buy, and sell all at the same time by trading Kris Bryant for JBJ.

[MoreTrife]

Ideally, they’ll hope to capture some Stearns magic, buy, and sell all at the same time by trading Kris Bryant for JBJ.

 

[WICKDADDY]

Urias has more homers than Grisham.

 

WICHO FOREVER.

[rickh150]

82% odds to make playoff at the break…..

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Brewers just drafted a dynamic outfielder with the best bat-to-ball skills in the draft! A kid that should be a fast riser with a ton of leadership qualities. Things are looking good.

[Baldkin]

From Jesse Rogers:

 

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, the Cubs drop from first place to 9 games back in 12 days is tied for the largest fall for a first place team in a 12 day span since 1969. The 2011 Pirates did the same. In this case its leading the Cubs to a July sell off.

 

The awesome thing about that stat: Both times it happened, the Brewers took over 1st place (that was the start of the Brewers 24-4 run to put a stranglehold on the division)

[sveumrules]

Sweep the Reds, on the road, score 26 runs, seven game Division lead.

 

Gotta bump the Optimism thread back to the top.

[rickh150]

The BEST Road record in baseball…

[pacopete4]

Such a shame. Such a shame…

[HarveysWBs]

I started to dream a dream today. I dare not even whisper it, for anything more than a whisper, and it would vanish. But it starts this Tuesday...

[josh]

brewers in six

[young guns]

Such a shame. Such a shame…

That thread was a funny read, especially with the Brewers fans coming back and rubbing some salt in.

[Lathund]

Over the last 30 days, the Brewers position players are hitting .275/.369/.463, good for 126 wRC+, 6th best in the majors. You can even go back to May 1st and the Brewers are essentially tied with the Reds (101 wRC+ vs their 103 wRC+) for the best offense in the Central. Yet the perception that the Reds have an amazing offense and the Brewers are the worst persists. Which is not surprising, the perceptions created in April tend to live on for a long time, when in reality April is the least predictive month. The Reds hot offensive start was in part due to players like Barnhart having a 132 wRC+ in April (Career: 85 wRC+), Tyler Naquin with 140 (Career 100), and an easy early schedule (April had 9 games against the Dbacks and Pirates, 6 against the Cardinals pitching staff etc). Any offense with Castellanos and Winker is going to be pretty good, but they're not some offensive juggernaut.

[sveumrules]

Over the last 30 days, the Brewers position players are hitting .275/.369/.463, good for 126 wRC+, 6th best in the majors. You can even go back to May 1st and the Brewers are essentially tied with the Reds (101 wRC+ vs their 103 wRC+) for the best offense in the Central. Yet the perception that the Reds have an amazing offense and the Brewers are the worst persists. Which is not surprising, the perceptions created in April tend to live on for a long time, when in reality April is the least predictive month. The Reds hot offensive start was in part due to players like Barnhart having a 132 wRC+ in April (Career: 85 wRC+), Tyler Naquin with 140 (Career 100), and an easy early schedule (April had 9 games against the Dbacks and Pirates, 6 against the Cardinals pitching staff etc). Any offense with Castellanos and Winker is going to be pretty good, but they're not some offensive juggernaut.

 

Yup, for all the talk about the massive perceived gap twixt Brewers & Reds position players, the Reds have scored 445 runs this year vs 420 for the Brewers.

 

But hitters have to field too & the Brewers close the gap (& then some) with +29 Defensive Runs Saved vs -27 DRS for the Reds.

 

Throw in the Brewers base running advantage (+5.8 vs -8.1), add it all up & Brewers position players have posted 12.6 WAR for about 59.6 million in payroll while Reds position players have posted 11.2 WAR for about 84.6 million in payroll.

 

Cardinals position players have posted 8.9 WAR for 84.2 million in payroll, while Cubs position players are at 8.7 WAR for 90.6 million in payroll.

[PeaveyFury]

Throw in the Brewers base running advantage (+5.8 vs -8.1), add it all up & Brewers position players have posted 12.6 WAR for about 59.6 million in payroll while Reds position players have posted 11.2 WAR for about 84.6 million in payroll.

 

Cardinals position players have posted 8.9 WAR for 84.2 million in payroll, while Cubs position players are at 8.7 WAR for 90.6 million in payroll.

 

 

Emphasizing once again that our FO is really good at what they do, despite all the concerns in the offseason.

[PeaveyFury]

Also worth noting in the optimism thread as we head into the stretch before the deadline- the Brewers really have set themselves up as good as you could hope for as far as potential needs/upgrades are concerned from a cost standpoint. Bullpen help and a 1B bat upgrade should both be readily available, and more cost-effective than other positions or SPs. As such, they should be able to smartly use their somewhat limited farm resources to acquire help without destroying the farm.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Sweep the Reds, on the road, score 26 runs, seven game Division lead.

 

Gotta bump the Optimism thread back to the top.

 

The Brewers lost games by 2-0, 4-3 and 3-1 margins last weekend, and there were a few here ready to crown the Reds. Well, the Brewers just beat them three times by 11-6, 7-4 and 8-0 margins.

 

They just swept a team that we were told by several members here is MUCH better than them after those close losses. Did the Brewers get that much better in a week? Or was it just baseball?

[pacopete4]

Sweep the Reds, on the road, score 26 runs, seven game Division lead.

 

Gotta bump the Optimism thread back to the top.

 

The Brewers lost games by 2-0, 4-3 and 3-1 margins last weekend, and there were a few here ready to crown the Reds. Well, the Brewers just beat them three times by 11-6, 7-4 and 8-0 margins.

 

They just swept a team that we were told by several members here is MUCH better than them after those close losses. Did the Brewers get that much better in a week? Or was it just baseball?

 

Many of those posters will disappear until the next rough patch. The poster that showed the data on posts per IGT depending on if we were winning or losing was spot on. So much easier to be negative, I guess.

[DuWayne Steurer]

This is the optimism thread. Let's not waste it on complaining about negative posters

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Sweep the Reds, on the road, score 26 runs, seven game Division lead.

 

Gotta bump the Optimism thread back to the top.

 

The Brewers lost games by 2-0, 4-3 and 3-1 margins last weekend, and there were a few here ready to crown the Reds. Well, the Brewers just beat them three times by 11-6, 7-4 and 8-0 margins.

 

They just swept a team that we were told by several members here is MUCH better than them after those close losses. Did the Brewers get that much better in a week? Or was it just baseball?

 

Many of those posters will disappear until the next rough patch. The poster that showed the data on posts per IGT depending on if we were winning or losing was spot on. So much easier to be negative, I guess.

 

I'm certainly not trying to tell anyone how to be a fan. I just wish I understood a little better how the minds of those overtly negative fans operate. I simply don't get it.

 

I guess what I'm pointing out here in the end is that, despite what happened against the Reds last weekend, this Brewers team is good. This past weekend was simply baseball's way of fixing itself.