Badger Football 2021

[HiAndTight]

That is a pretty disappointing cone drill for a CB where cutting and changing directions are so critical.

 

Average for CB at the 2020 combine was 7.01 seconds. At the 2019 combine it was 6.93 seconds. I'd say Wildgoose's number was pretty much average for the position.

 

Got a link?

 

NFL Savant has the average 3-code drill for CBs at 6.88s. 7.01 is right around average for a safety. A 7-second cone drill isn't great for a CB or WR, whose game is predicated on cutting on moving. I think Kahlil Mack had a 7-second cone drill.

 

 

That's just amazing. The difference between elite and too slow is almost imperceptible to the human eye. It gives you an idea of how quickly the game actually moves.

 

I'm guessing...and I don't want to speak for anyone, but that 7.01 number was the average for all DB's, not necessarily CB's.

 

 

Kevin King...just for a point of reference, ran a 6.56. Obviously, that number in and of itself doesn't tell the whole story, but that guy has a ton of ability. It's be great if he could come back on a very team friendly deal, have his big breakout and then move on. We're going to be thrilled if we get a long CB with his athletic ability in this draft.

[CheezWizHed]

Asante Samuel came in at 6.95 on the three-cone drill. I have to imagine it makes it worse given he is also undersized. Makes it even more impressive that King was so low at his size.

 

And right, it is one number in many, but for me, probably the most important number for a CB. That must be balanced with instincts and gameplay of course.

[JosephC]

That is a pretty disappointing cone drill for a CB where cutting and changing directions are so critical.

 

Average for CB at the 2020 combine was 7.01 seconds. At the 2019 combine it was 6.93 seconds. I'd say Wildgoose's number was pretty much average for the position.

 

Got a link?

 

NFL Savant has the average 3-code drill for CBs at 6.88s. 7.01 is right around average for a safety. A 7-second cone drill isn't great for a CB or WR, whose game is predicated on cutting on moving. I think Kahlil Mack had a 7-second cone drill.

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2019-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/

Click DB in menu above table

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2020-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/

Click CB in menu above table

 

And then do what I did, open Excel, quick type in the numbers and see what the average is.

[CheezWizHed]

https://steelersdepot.com/2019-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/

Click DB in menu above table

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2020-nfl-scouting-combine-results-tracker/

Click CB in menu above table

 

And then do what I did, open Excel, quick type in the numbers and see what the average is.

 

[sarcasm]You're trusting a Steelers site? Even my work firewall blocks it![/sarcasm]

 

I'm wondering if the 2020 numbers were skewed by people not attending due to COVID? I could see a single year at 6.93 if NFL Savant's number is an average over several years (which is inferred, but not stated). 7s just seems very high.

 

Regardless, if Wildgoose is trying to get into the top 3 rounds of the draft, that won't help him.

[wildcat83]

Badgers hired former Cowboys RB coach Gary Brown as their new RB coach. Don't know much about him personally, but nice to have a guy with a successful NFL background. He has coached DeMarco Murray and Zeke in their NFL rushing title seasons.

[JosephC]

Settle always got a lot of unnecessary crap from the fanbase as he wasn't much of a recruiter. But there is no question the man is a great, great coach and was a really good influence on the team. He sure took a lot of 3-star recruits and really coached them up. Not just the big-name tailbacks, it also applies to players like Alec Ingold. I'm very sorry to see him go.

[pacopete4]

So long Barry. Thanks for everything!

[patrickgpe]

Chris McIntosh will be taking over which makes me feel old

[PeaveyFury]

I somehow doubt Barry is done with college sports. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's doing some sort of gameday analyst thing in the near future.

[LouisEly]

Spring roster out, and a few noticeable absences - Taj Mustapha, Boyd Dietzen, Aaron Vopal.

 

None of the RB recruits enrolled early, so Brady Schipper back to RB to shore up a thin position with only Berger, Guerrendo, and Julius Davis. Not any other position changes I can see other than Preston Zachman moved to safety. Pleasantly surprised to see both Geo Paez and Rodas Johnson still on the roster after only getting playing time late in the bowl game last year; I assume they lost most of last season to injuries/COVID and not benched for ineffectiveness.

[wildcat83]

Spring OL depth chart has a few surprises as well.

 

LT: Beach/Brown

LG: Seltzner/Sampson

C: Lyles/Bortolini

RG: Nelson/Furtney

RT: Bruss/Wedig

 

For as high as he was rated coming in, it's kind of disappointing that Brown has not been able to secure a starting spot yet. With Tippman not even on the two deep, that's a step back for that OL class. Really surprised to see Jack Nelson listed as the starter at RG. Not that I doubt his ability, just very early in the process for him to claim a starting spot.

 

It is just spring ball, so I know a lot can change by the time they take the field in the fall.

[LouisEly]

Rudolph said, regarding Brown, that right now he makes some plays that make you say wow and some plays that make you shake your head. He has flashed the talent, just not the consistency. It's understandable if you think about it - he missed most if not all of his true freshman season with the shoulder injury and then last year the limited practice time/COVID pausing/etc.; he just hasn't gotten a lot of reps in practice.

 

Regarding Nelson, I view it as a positive in that he's forcing his way into the lineup because he's that good. Rudolph called him "explosive". Tippman may be hurt; they didn't mention him working with the 3rd team.

[wildcat83]

Braelon Allen will play RB at Wisconsin instead of S/LB.

[Sixtofan]

Chez Mellusi in town today - would be a great addition

[wildcat83]

With Mellusi in the mix at RB I wonder if Braelon Allen will return to the defensive side of the ball where he’s been projected.

[ZBTMP]

With Mellusi in the mix at RB I wonder if Braelon Allen will return to the defensive side of the ball where he’s been projected.

Probably not. With Wisconsin his only known visit scheduled and players expected to be on campus in less than 2 weeks, this wasn’t an unexpected addition. I suspect they desire 3 early down back options they feel comfortable with and someone in the Groshek/Ogumbawale passing down role. Plus someone in the freshmen class is likely to end up at fullback with Chanel’s eligibility running out. The immediate best path to playing time for Allen besides special teams is to standout in the backfield shuffle.

The staff has a plan and I don’t think it changed yesterday.

[homer]

Jon McNamara at BadgerBlitz.com reports that UW's director of player personnel, Saeed Khalif, was leaving the program to take a position with Big Ten foe Michigan State. UW's recruiting classes have gradually improved in national ranking over the past three years; Khalif was entering his fifth season at UW. The 2021 class was rated No. 15 by Rivals.com, the highest UW has fared in the 20 years of Rivals rankings.

 

I think this is a pretty big blow to the program. Particularly stings that he went to a rival school.

[LouisEly]

The commitment wave has started.

 

3-star OT/DL Barrett Nelson, younger brother of Jack Nelson, was first. TE JT Seagraves is next; he's unranked by the major services but has been blowing up the camps - he's one of those multi-sport athletes from a smaller school who didn't go to camps until now but is very athletic (also top athlete in basketball and track) and I think was the top TE on their board. Then they got 3-star ATH/S Cade Yacamelli; he's another guy who is under the radar and a lower ranked guy because he's a likely position switcher who plays QB in HS, much like TJ Edwards did. He camped and impressed the staff to the point where they made an offer right away. They need safeties after recruiting only three in the last three seasons and losing Pearson.

 

I wouldn't put much stock in recruiting rankings this year since kids played little if any football last fall and didn't go to camps until basically now. (Barrett Nelson transferred to another school in order to play.) If the Badgers offered a guy right after he camped with them, they really liked what they saw and didn't want others to see them.

[JosephC]

 

I wouldn't put much stock in recruiting rankings this year since kids played little if any football last fall and didn't go to camps until basically now. (Barrett Nelson transferred to another school in order to play.)

 

I occasionally talk with one of the writers/reporters on one of the major recruiting sites and he doesn't think they should publish any star ratings until the upcoming season has ended. Unfortunately for those guys, they are in a business that doesn't allow them to do that since all their readers will pretty much demand those rankings. But there is one guy who would flat out tell you that any rankings you see within the next few months are pretty much worthless.

[nate82]

College football playoffs being expanded to 12 teams?

 

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/college-football-playoff-takes-next-step-toward-expansion-to-12-team-format-173402568.html

[MrTPlush]

People are going to say it is way too many teams, but I think 12 might be better than the 6 or 8 team playoffs some have proposed in the past. 12 teams allows a complete round that avoids the top 4 teams playing anyone. This could, in theory, make a very competitive first round of the playoffs. The problem I see with 6 or 8 teams is the first round that features those 'expansion teams' just getting shelled making it seem like waste.

 

12 teams will not only make it plausible for any team to make the playoff, but the first round featuring those teams should be fairly competitive/exciting. I think it is a big win for college football to do it. The current set up has become problematic when it features the same 3 teams with one other spot usually dominated by another small set of schools.

 

Will the eventual winner still be Clemson/Alabama/Ohio State 99% of the time? Maybe, but at least other teams will have a chance and will occasionally maybe make a shocking run. Everyone loves the March Madness even though past the top 4 seeds the teams basically have no shot.

[PeaveyFury]

I always thought (and probably still do think) that 8 was the perfect number- all 5 of the P5 get auto-bids, and that leaves three at-larges to cover the inevitable conference championship game upsets. Add in an auto-birth for any undefeated non-P5 team to avoid a UCF-like disaster and you're set. 12 seems workable, and is certainly better than 4 though.

[MrTPlush]

I always thought (and probably still do think) that 8 was the perfect number- all 5 of the P5 get auto-bids, and that leaves three at-larges to cover the inevitable conference championship game upsets. Add in an auto-birth for any undefeated non-P5 team to avoid a UCF-like disaster and you're set. 12 seems workable, and is certainly better than 4 though.

 

What if you have two undefeated teams?

 

Ironically UCF finished #12 in the final playoff rankings when they went 12-0.

[nate82]

The earliest this would come into play looks like would be the 2023 season maybe the 2022 season? I think 12 is fine but would prefer 8 teams. I think the March Madness comparison is spot on. I believe about 90% of the time the top 4 teams are going to win which is probably right around the same for the top 4 in basketball. There is probably more variance in basketball than there is in football but the underdogs having about a 10% chance of winning I can live with that.

 

Another topic that is probably big for college sports in general is the recent supreme court ruling which is going to challenge the NCAA's authority on if student athletes can be paid or not or how much they can earn. Kavanaugh's thoughts on this will be used to challenge the NCAA's authority and I believe the NCAA is going to lose and I believe this is the right course of action.

[PeaveyFury]

What if you have two undefeated teams?

 

I'd honestly consider a play-in game.

 

But, the NCAA won't do that and they'd likely have to default back to the highest ranking one or something like that.