Report: Rodgers wants new contract (Update: May not want to return in 2021)

[MrTPlush]

Its incredibly likely Randall Cobb will be a more impactful player than Amari Rodgers would have been THIS year. So I really don't see an issue there.

 

Also, people continuously bring up Rodgers never taking a pay cut or altering his contract to help the cap. Yah, I wouldn't either if the team never listens to me, treats me like a robot just playing football, and cares nothing about what I think. Can you imagine the Packers coming to Rodgers and saying, "Hey Aaron, can you take a paycut for us? For what? None of your business, whatever we want."

 

I mean, why would someone take a paycut with the kind of relationship those two sides had? I think it is overblown anyway. Good for Tom Brady for taking paycuts, most players want max money. I think we can stop pretending Tom Brady is the expectation or the norm.

Were they talking pay cut? Or were they talking about a restructure? Usually they mean the latter where the money gets converted to a signing bonus. The player gets more guaranteed money today, and the team gets cap relief. I mean, if people were talking pay cut, that's silly, but if it was restructure, yes, Rodgers could have been open to that. And of course, because I am cynical, I don't believe for one second that Brady took a true pay cut. I am sure Kraft was getting him his money somehow. No, I don't have proof. Brady was probably getting all the money from the fifth blade they added to the Gillette razor.

 

Both...and yah, I think those people are under the impression that Tom Brady takes pay cuts or signs contracts for less than he could get.

 

Personally I have no idea, because I really don't care how much Tom Brady gets paid or how it compares to other players.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The Patriots got very lucky with the timing of when Brady was up for extensions. It always happened to coincide with the team having a down season, him getting hurt, or JG being around AND having seen the field, so when those discussions took place, Brady wasn't at a point of high leverage. One of the last extensions he signed with NE was very clearly a "take this modest deal or you're gone" situation. There always more to that than TB just taking nice deals because he's a swell guy. He is also married to someone richer than he is.

 

As far as Tampa goes, that entire thing happening at all was likely based on assurances that he would be special counsel to the GM. Much like Rodgers will be for somebody else next year.

[PeaveyFury]

My completely unfounded but potentially legitimate fear is that Rodgers forces 8 balls a game to an aging, ineffective Cobb to try and prove himself right.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I think everyone's mind has gone there. But there is enough talent on the team that it will be pretty easy to justify benching Cobb if he really sucks.

[xisxisxis]

My completely unfounded but potentially legitimate fear is that Rodgers forces 8 balls a game to an aging, ineffective Cobb to try and prove himself right.

Just 8? You are an optimist.

 

Thankfully they didn't draft a WR in Round 1 this year as Rodgers probably would have required them to bring back Jordy Nelson from retirement. Why go with a rookie when you can sign a washed up Vet instead (copyright - The Aaron Rodgers GM plan)!?

[MrTPlush]

As long as he proves himself right (again(winning the MVP when everyone thought he was declining)) I think I will be okay with it.

 

No one seems worried about making 28 year old Adams the highest paid receiver in the league, but I guess 30 year old Cobb is AARP old to people?

[LouisEly]

My completely unfounded but potentially legitimate fear is that Rodgers forces 8 balls a game to an aging, ineffective Cobb to try and prove himself right.

Saw a stat that of all of the receivers that Rodgers has thrown a certain minimum number of targets, Cobb is the only one with a catch % of over 70%.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

As long as he proves himself right (again(winning the MVP when everyone thought he was declining)) I think I will be okay with it.

 

No one seems worried about making 28 year old Adams the highest paid receiver in the league, but I guess 30 year old Cobb is AARP old to people?

 

I'm slightly worried about paying Adams, but this is possibly the greatest WR in franchise history and either the best or second best in the league, and an injury prone slot guy with a single 1,000-yard season seven years ago.

[SomewhereInTime]

I don't think for a second they got Cobb solely for Rodgers. I think they probably thought it was a benign idea that might benefit them anyway.

You wouldn’t have been able to tell this from Gute’s presser this morning. I suggest watching or listening to his remarks once they’re posted online to get the full impact, but his comments in response to the Cobb question had about as much genuine enthusiasm as a coerced message in a hostage situation. And he flat out said they wouldn’t have made the move except for Aaron Rodgers. My goodness. Guess we’re all just letting it hang out now.

 

Any doubt I had about 12 being gone next year has just been erased.

 

I think everyone suspected that but it was hilarious that he actually said that. This is gonna go so bad.

[MrTPlush]

As long as he proves himself right (again(winning the MVP when everyone thought he was declining)) I think I will be okay with it.

 

No one seems worried about making 28 year old Adams the highest paid receiver in the league, but I guess 30 year old Cobb is AARP old to people?

 

I'm slightly worried about paying Adams, but this is possibly the greatest WR in franchise history and either the best or second best in the league, and an injury prone slot guy with a single 1,000-yard season seven years ago.

 

Yes, it’s apple to oranges from a talent level. But the contracts are also apple to oranges. One guy would be a massive longer term deal and the other is spare change we are handing out at the start of training camp.

 

I’m more worried about Cobb from an injury perspective than I am his talent/age ability. Even then, not like a tear will be shed if he tears his ACL.

 

Cobb just isn’t that old. This isn’t like Jordy Nelson who was coming off a terrible age 32 year…that is a more legitimate age concern.

[PeaveyFury]

Cobb may not be old, but he hasn't been effective in a while. If Adams had shown a similar trajectory at this point, I'd be very concerned.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

That and something people forget about Cobb is that he was drafted at 20. There's a lot of wear on him.

 

I think this is still getting blown up too big. The Packers got him because Rodgers asked. They were able to make it work without any significant consequence financially and so it was ultimately benign to just go ahead and do it. And there's a chance he provides some value at a fairly low price.

 

Gute being so blunt about it was actually pretty smart. Now if it goes poorly the Aaron Rodgers GM experiment can be out there for all to see when he's disgruntled in March and traded.

[balsamlaker]

With the current depth at wide receiver, it wouldn't be shocking if the Packers are able to recoup a late round pick or two trading away one or more of the "other" receivers at cutdown day to another team. On an unrelated note, I wonder if Rodgers lists the dozen or so players that left the Packers if Ted Thompson is still alive - roughly two-thirds of those transactions occurred before Gutekunst's tenure as general manager.

[PeaveyFury]

You know, I thought that after the press conference yesterday and I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more media play- he's putting the blame on the current FO for things that Thompson did. Yes, Gute was here during that time, but he wasn't calling the shots and thus far has managed the team differently than Thompson did.

[MrTPlush]

You know, I thought that after the press conference yesterday and I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more media play- he's putting the blame on the current FO for things that Thompson did. Yes, Gute was here during that time, but he wasn't calling the shots and thus far has managed the team differently than Thompson did.

 

Was he specifically blaming Gute? Sounded like he was talking about the organization that he has been apart of. The leader, Mark Murphy, has been around Rodgers entire tenure.

 

Unless I missed him blaming Gute for offering Jordy Nelson league minimum, I didn’t watch the entire thing.

[PeaveyFury]

He wasn't. But why is it fair to blame the current guy in charge for the 'sins' of his predecessor? And hasn't everything we've heard this offseason been about the disconnect between Rodgers and Gute? If one of your big complaints is that the guy that preceded him didn't re-sign your friends, that's a bit of an odd axe to grind with the current GM.

[xisxisxis]

My completely unfounded but potentially legitimate fear is that Rodgers forces 8 balls a game to an aging, ineffective Cobb to try and prove himself right.

Saw a stat that of all of the receivers that Rodgers has thrown a certain minimum number of targets, Cobb is the only one with a catch % of over 70%.

Average stats: Wide receivers haul in 69.1 percent of the passes they receive on slot targets, while netting just a 59.8 percent catch-rate on perimeter targets.

[adambr2]

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/07/details-on-aaron-rodgers-reworked-contract#ref=home

 

Part of the renegotiated contract is that we cannot go after Rodgers' bonus money if he retires. So if he wants to be traded next summer and threatens to retire, there is no digging in our heels and letting him do so. Just trade him.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I think it's kinda clear now that there's sort of already an agreement in place that he's getting traded after this season.

[LouisEly]

He wasn't. But why is it fair to blame the current guy in charge for the 'sins' of his predecessor? And hasn't everything we've heard this offseason been about the disconnect between Rodgers and Gute? If one of your big complaints is that the guy that preceded him didn't re-sign your friends, that's a bit of an odd axe to grind with the current GM.

[sarcasm]Never would have expected Rodgers to hold a grudge like that.[/sarcasm]

[pitchleague]

My completely unfounded but potentially legitimate fear is that Rodgers forces 8 balls a game to an aging, ineffective Cobb to try and prove himself right.

 

I have thought this exact same thing. And I also wondered how he will react if the Lambeau field fans start booing said forcing of throws.

[rickh150]

He is not force throwing to Cobb or anyone else because of friendship. Has he done this ever in his career?

[homer]

I think it's kinda clear now that there's sort of already an agreement in place that he's getting traded after this season.

 

You're probably right but they can always rework that deal next offseason if they feel like it.

[KeithStone53151]

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/07/details-on-aaron-rodgers-reworked-contract#ref=home

 

Part of the renegotiated contract is that we cannot go after Rodgers' bonus money if he retires. So if he wants to be traded next summer and threatens to retire, there is no digging in our heels and letting him do so. Just trade him.

 

Fine by me. It's the most prudent move we can make anyways in my opinion assuming he has a good season.

[Oxy]

He is not force throwing to Cobb or anyone else because of friendship. Has he done this ever in his career?

 

"Friendship" isn't the reason, but no doubt he's forced throws to Adams and Nelson over the years. It worked more often than not though.