Report: Rodgers wants new contract (Update: May not want to return in 2021)

[Fear The Chorizo]

His age is getting a bit too much play here IMO. He's 29 at FA, and he's not some barnburner with a 4.2 40 that relies on blowing past people. He's really a possession WR that runs crisp routes, and there are have been plenty of those guys still going strong around their mid 30s. Any contract they give him will give them an out probably around 32 or 33. I like what they have at WR, but they are going to be in a lot of trouble there if he walks. They should do what they reasonably can to keep him regardless of who the QB is. He was the same player with Brett Hundley.

 

Sure, but the problem is they have no room to work a deal that pays Adams significantly more until Rodgers' contract is reworked/sorted out.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

That's why they should pay him now before they aren't paying Rodgers. Although I feel 200% certain that Rodgers has told him he absolutely won't be there in 2022 and will do everything in his power to sabotage the team after his year.

[homer]

That's why they should pay him now before they aren't paying Rodgers. Although I feel 200% certain that Rodgers has told him he absolutely won't be there in 2022 and will do everything in his power to sabotage the team after his year.

 

How can he sabotage the team

[adambr2]

It seems like Brian Gutekunst is pretty good at the talent evaluation part of his job and pretty lousy at the part of his job of managing people.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

That's why they should pay him now before they aren't paying Rodgers. Although I feel 200% certain that Rodgers has told him he absolutely won't be there in 2022 and will do everything in his power to sabotage the team after his year.

 

I know the guy is a Hall of Fame grudge holder, but that is next-level stuff that would likely make whatever team looking to acquire him think twice I would think/hope.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Rodgers is not going to come around on the Packers. He won't come around on Greg Jennings, he won't come around on his own parents.

 

When he does finish whining his way out of Green Bay, I have zero doubts he will do everything he can to set the franchise up for failure, whether that's telling Adams he's 100% out or telling anyone that will listen how mean their front office is.

 

Of course, publicly he will remain mysterious or say sweet nothings about the fans and community.

 

How can he sabotage them? Who knows, maybe not much, but he can still try. I'm more surprised anyone has any doubts about how petty of a person he is. People have been saying this stuff about him for a 15 years, now the fans are finally getting to see it.

[homer]

I think it's hilarious how people think Rodgers is whining when he's literally said nothing. yeah he's petty and holds grudges. unless he pulls a Farce and weasels his way to a division rival I don't see how he can sabotage the team.

 

reports out there that he may retire next week.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Then he should come out say what's so terrible about Green Bay. Stop calling his future a beautiful mystery, stop posting cryptic crap to social media, stop leaking just.enough so that the world knows you're upset, but doesn't know why.

 

He's a diva. He doesn't have to say anything publicly to be a whiner. There are a million stories.out there at this point about him "feeling wronged" by different folks and he handles it like a big baby. Where there's smoke there's fire.

 

Now he and Adams are both being mysterious and cryptic together. They can both go honestly. I'm fine with winning 4 games for a few years if that's what it comes too. I know a lot of people aren't and I understand that. I just find him so unlikeable that I really don't care what he does.

 

I kinda feel like this ending was inevitable for Rodgers. He was always going to find some thing to get ticked off about. And if this is about roster control it literally makes no sense. They have a championship roster, so shut up and go win it. Like you had the chance to do last year and did nothing with 3 turnovers.

 

Tbh, the longer this goes the less I think it has anything to do with the FO and is about him wanting to be somewhere that sets up his post-football career in TV and film. He's absolutely never going to say that if it's the case though.

[sveumrules]

reports out there that he may retire next week.

 

From a long term team building standpoint, my preference would be to trade him for whatever the Packers can get.

 

From a personal satisfaction standpoint I hope he takes his ball & goes home like the petulant child he is.

 

He has no legitimate gripe as far as I'm concerned. They offered him the cash, the front office put the most talented roster/staff around him in at least a decade.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

reports out there that he may retire next week.

 

From a long term team building standpoint, my preference would be to trade him for whatever the Packers can get.

 

From a personal satisfaction standpoint I hope he takes his ball & goes home like the petulant child he is.

 

He has no legitimate gripe as far as I'm concerned. They offered him the cash, the front office put the most talented roster/staff around him in at least a decade.

 

He doesn't want to be here but can't and won't state the real reason because he knows it will be wildly unpopular and destroy his reputation.

[Fear The Chorizo]

I've always thought Rodgers would be the type of player who would have no problems walking away from football earlier than most great players, before father time forced their hand. So to me the rumor about retirement does carry some weight, and I don't think this is a Favre-like retirement as a Packer only to get to a different team this fall.

 

That being said, up until this offseason I never thought that process would include Rodgers scapegoating team management as the reason for retiring. Given the timing of this right at the start of camp is par for the course of this slow moving trainwreck.

[LouisEly]

The Packers offense did marginally better in the games Davante missed last year. That's not a ringing endorsement to throw craploads of money at him.

Yes and no. I think it had more to do with the QB locking in on him when he was in the game and ignoring other options, and when he wasn't there it forced the QB to operate within the strategy of the offense.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

That being said, up until this offseason I never thought that process would include Rodgers scapegoating team management as the reason for retiring. Given the timing of this right at the start of camp is par for the course of this slow moving trainwreck.

 

I'd love it if he didn't show up. Even at the probable chance Love has a rough year and they are terrible. The slight chance of them being marginally successful without Rodgers would just be delicious to see unfold.

[homer]

 

That being said, up until this offseason I never thought that process would include Rodgers scapegoating team management as the reason for retiring. Given the timing of this right at the start of camp is par for the course of this slow moving trainwreck.

 

Timing of what?

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I assume Adams seemingly leaping on board with leaving GB after this season. Adams is certainly entitled to his cash, but if Rodgers is really done in GB then not tying up cash in Adams is probably equal parts good and bad.

 

As an aside I'm not buying this "Gute is bad with people" routine. Gute is doing his job and a petulant baby doesn't like that he planned for the future. They need to tread carefully with Adams too, but he at least has a legitimate gripe if he wants to be the highest paid WR. His is a business issue and it's fine. It happens. Plenty of guys on the roster love GB. Roll with those guys and let Rodgers pound sand.

[Fear The Chorizo]

 

That being said, up until this offseason I never thought that process would include Rodgers scapegoating team management as the reason for retiring. Given the timing of this right at the start of camp is par for the course of this slow moving trainwreck.

 

Timing of what?

Rumors announcing his retirement....could have just as easily been done months ago if he really was at that position mentally with his career

[homer]

 

That being said, up until this offseason I never thought that process would include Rodgers scapegoating team management as the reason for retiring. Given the timing of this right at the start of camp is par for the course of this slow moving trainwreck.

 

Timing of what?

Rumors announcing his retirement....could have just as easily been done months ago if he really was at that position mentally with his career

 

True but we don't know where those rumors started. The Last Dance thing with Adams makes it seem like they are gonna have one more go around?

[adambr2]

I assume Adams seemingly leaping on board with leaving GB after this season. Adams is certainly entitled to his cash, but if Rodgers is really done in GB then not tying up cash in Adams is probably equal parts good and bad.

 

As an aside I'm not buying this "Gute is bad with people" routine. Gute is doing his job and a petulant baby doesn't like that he planned for the future. They need to tread carefully with Adams too, but he at least has a legitimate gripe if he wants to be the highest paid WR. His is a business issue and it's fine. It happens. Plenty of guys on the roster love GB. Roll with those guys and let Rodgers pound sand.

 

I don't really know if Gute is bad with people. It's speculative. I would suggest that being unable to smooth any of this over with Rodgers over months of time, and now the relationship with Adams being in "a bad place", followed by Zadarius discussing his need to get a realtor, is a pretty good indication that Gute is not managing this crisis very effectively.

[Fear The Chorizo]

True but we don't know where those rumors started. The Last Dance thing with Adams makes it seem like they are gonna have one more go around?

 

Yeah, we shall see i guess....the whole Last Dance schtick and Rodgers calling Gute Jerry Krause makes me think they need to watch better stuff on Netflix at this point

[homer]

At the end of the day, you guys might be right and this is all Rodgers being a giant weenie about a few relatively minor issues with the front office. I just have a hard time climbing inside some guy's head and ascribing motive with barely any confirmable information out in the public. I am withholding judgment one way or the other until that happens.

[PeaveyFury]

I mean, Rodgers has a massive history of holding grudges over small things that extends literally to all aspects of his life. Why would we assume that this is any different?

[Fear The Chorizo]

At the end of the day, you guys might be right and this is all Rodgers being a giant weenie about a few relatively minor issues with the front office. I just have a hard time climbing inside some guy's head and ascribing motive with barely any confirmable information out in the public. I am withholding judgment one way or the other until that happens.

 

Yes, and I'd agree if this was the only apparent issue Rodgers has with people who would be deemed authority figures in his life, whether that be professional or personal. Tough to say its isolated when ARod no longer has a relationship with his own immediate family/parents.

 

There's only so much 'benefit of the doubt' a guy can get before they start receiving blame for the personal rifts in their life, too.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I assume Adams seemingly leaping on board with leaving GB after this season. Adams is certainly entitled to his cash, but if Rodgers is really done in GB then not tying up cash in Adams is probably equal parts good and bad.

 

As an aside I'm not buying this "Gute is bad with people" routine. Gute is doing his job and a petulant baby doesn't like that he planned for the future. They need to tread carefully with Adams too, but he at least has a legitimate gripe if he wants to be the highest paid WR. His is a business issue and it's fine. It happens. Plenty of guys on the roster love GB. Roll with those guys and let Rodgers pound sand.

 

I don't really know if Gute is bad with people. It's speculative. I would suggest that being unable to smooth any of this over with Rodgers over months of time, and now the relationship with Adams being in "a bad place", followed by Zadarius discussing his need to get a realtor, is a pretty good indication that Gute is not managing this crisis very effectively.

 

Is it possible to smooth things over with Rodgers? History would suggest it is not. He doesn't talk to his mom.

[sveumrules]

Rodgers could put some confirmable information out, so no one had to try & ascribe motive, but he trolls & plays aloof instead.

 

Hard for me to root for or care about a guy like that, no matter how good he is at throwing a ball.

[homer]

Rodgers could put some confirmable information out, so no one had to try & ascribe motive, but he trolls & plays aloof instead.

 

Hard for me to root for or care about a guy like that, no matter how good he is at throwing a ball.

 

Yes, can't argue there. His meme game does not help perception at all.

 

But I said a while back that until he starts missing actual training camp I don't think it's a huge deal. We shall see what happens next week.