Report: Rodgers wants new contract (Update: May not want to return in 2021)

[SeaBass]

Dov Kleiman

@NFL_DovKleiman

 

According to @AdamSchefter, the #Packers coaches want @AaronRodgers12 back if he wants to be return but he's is not "As convinced that everybody feels the same way about Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay as the coaches."

 

 

This would be mind boggling if there are factions that still want him gone this badly.

[homer]

Seems like some subterfuge going on here. My guess is other coaches/front office types in the NFC and leaking some "I know a guy on the staff there and he said..."

[OldSchoolSnapper]

It's getting silly now. Rodgers said he sees himself back, the coaches love him and the president said they'd be idiots. This leaves about one guy this could be about.

 

Just feels like ESPN milking a golden cow.

[pacopete4]

Hahahahahaha you couldn’t laugh any harder at this drama crap. All to feed headlines. It’s pretty pathetic but people will be strapped on this even though it couldn’t be more ridiculous.

[SeaBass]

Yeah it seems ridiculously far fetched. Murphy outright says on Monday he'll be back, so as far as I can see that means he's going to be back. If this is coming from Gute and the other executives that doesn't matter because Murphy is still calling the shots.

[HiAndTight]

It's getting silly now. Rodgers said he sees himself back, the coaches love him and the president said they'd be idiots. This leaves about one guy this could be about.

 

Just feels like ESPN milking a golden cow.

 

 

I like Gute, but IF there is any truth to this...do you consider making a change? Eliot Wolf maybe.

 

If you have a GM who is the only guy in the building advocating you move on from your MVP QB when your team is riiiight on the cusp, that'd seem like it was ego-driven. He wants to win with "his guy."

 

But I'm sure this story is nonsense and I doubt Gute has any objections to him coming back. What would suck is if he's kinda stuck on the idea of moving on from Rodgers in 2 years(or after next year) so they don't restructure and create room to keep players or add right now. That might what Rodgers means when he says he's not sure everyone else wants him back as badly.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

It's getting silly now. Rodgers said he sees himself back, the coaches love him and the president said they'd be idiots. This leaves about one guy this could be about.

 

Just feels like ESPN milking a golden cow.

 

 

I like Gute, but IF there is any truth to this...do you consider making a change? Eliot Wolf maybe.

 

If you have a GM who is the only guy in the building advocating you move on from your MVP QB when your team is riiiight on the cusp, that'd seem like it was ego-driven. He wants to win with "his guy."

 

But I'm sure this story is nonsense and I doubt Gute has any objections to him coming back. What would suck is if he's kinda stuck on the idea of moving on from Rodgers in 2 years(or after next year) so they don't restructure and create room to keep players or add right now. That might what Rodgers means when he says he's not sure everyone else wants him back as badly.

 

This story is complete nonsense. And Gute is very secure. Why even bring up possible replacements? Can you imagine the terrible precedent it would set to fire a GM because he was simply doing his job and planning for a team's future?

 

Remember, the Packers are a team. They were around before Aaron Rodgers, and they'll be around after Aaron Rodgers. He's by no means bigger than the team.

[SeaBass]

I feel like the only reasonable thought behind the sensationalistic media presentation is that some in the front office would oppose extending Rodgers' contract to retain the flexibility to move on from him after the 2021 season with a minimal cap hit. Even declining to extend or renegotiate his current deal does not mean they WILL move on from him, just that they'd have the option to. These are thoughts that have already been hashed out and discussed for the better part of the last year. I'm sure that possibility isn't fun for Rodgers but his contract structure wasn't a secret when he signed the deal in the first place. Big money up front, protection for the team on the back.

 

I really don't see the Packers moving on from Rodgers before next season, or rather I think the chances are very slim. Unless they think they have a move where they can get Deshaun Watson, and I'm not convinced that's the best option, I can't foresee going another direction and giving up on Super Bowl contention for 2021-22.

[HiAndTight]

 

This story is complete nonsense. And Gute is very secure. Why even bring up possible replacements?

 

Remember, the Packers are a team. They were around before Aaron Rodgers, and they'll be around after Aaron Rodgers. He's by no means bigger than the team.

 

 

I ASSUME it's nonsense, but Shefter usually doesn't just make things up. And why even bring up names? Because it's a forum and I'm speculating.

 

IF Gute's really the one guy who's swimming against the tide and Murphy, the coaching staff, and the player all want one thing and he wants another...which at this point would only be to make this team "his team," in that old cliche, then that's not really a functional organization.

 

And I understand the Packers will be around after Rodgers. I don't really understand the point you're making. They'll also be around after Gute. And SB wins are exceedingly hard to come by. 2 Since Lombardi. So if Gute is more interested in building for the next 20 years instead of right now(which I don't believe is true, but if it was) and at odds with all the other key figures, it's hardly unreasonable to move on.

 

 

 

It's not like this is unprecedented. The Chiefs very recently fired a GM(John Dorsey) who drafted the core of their dynasty including Mahomes(whom he traded up for despite having a Pro Bowl-caliber QB) and a long list of other very talented players, Kelce in the 3rd, Hill in the 5th, Peters...and the list goes on. They didn't fire him because of his team-building ability, they did so because he was butting heads with their coach and others in the front office.

 

So when Adam Schefter reports he's the one who's got a different opinion, not sure why it's so crazy to speculate what would happen if that situation played out.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

This story is complete nonsense. And Gute is very secure. Why even bring up possible replacements?

 

Remember, the Packers are a team. They were around before Aaron Rodgers, and they'll be around after Aaron Rodgers. He's by no means bigger than the team.

 

 

I ASSUME it's nonsense, but Shefter usually doesn't just make things up. And why even bring up names? Because it's a forum and I'm speculating.

 

IF Gute's really the one guy who's swimming against the tide and Murphy, the coaching staff, and the player all want one thing and he wants another...which at this point would only be to make this team "his team," in that old cliche, then that's not really a functional organization.

 

And I understand the Packers will be around after Rodgers. I don't really understand the point you're making. They'll also be around after Gute. And SB wins are exceedingly hard to come by. 2 Since Lombardi. So if Gute is more interested in building for the next 20 years instead of right now(which I don't believe is true, but if it was) and at odds with all the other key figures, it's hardly unreasonable to move on.

 

 

 

It's not like this is unprecedented. The Chiefs very recently fired a GM(John Dorsey) who drafted the core of their dynasty including Mahomes(whom he traded up for despite having a Pro Bowl-caliber QB) and a long list of other very talented players, Kelce in the 3rd, Hill in the 5th, Peters...and the list goes on. They didn't fire him because of his team-building ability, they did so because he was butting heads with their coach and others in the front office.

 

So when Adam Schefter reports he's the one who's got a different opinion, not sure why it's so crazy to speculate what would happen if that situation played out.

 

I was an enormous Brett Favre fan, but lost a ton of respect for him after the crap he pulled in the summer of 2008. It took a long time for the team to recover from that episode. Now it's almost as if these national talking heads like Schefter are trying to create the same situation, and it's stupid.

 

If there is any truth to this, I sure as heck hope the team stands behind its front office, and not behind a player.

[HiAndTight]

I was an enormous Brett Favre fan, but lost a ton of respect for him after the crap he pulled in the summer of 2008. It took a long time for the team to recover from that episode. Now it's almost as if these national talking heads like Schefter are trying to create the same situation, and it's stupid.

 

If there is any truth to this, I sure as heck hope the team stands behind its front office, and not behind a player.

 

 

Same here. I would assume there was something lost in translation from whoever Shefter is talking to...or maybe because Gute makes the calls people in his camp are kinda curious where he stands after drafting Love or maybe they're not interested in restructuring or...I don't know, a lot of speculation.

 

Rodgers is healthy, we KNOW he wants to play, we know Murphy and the staff want him back. I find it hard to believe Gute wouldn't as well. Still just bothers me a little that Shefter reported on it...again, he's generally pretty damn good. We're not talking about someone like Madden here.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Apparently the Rams inquired about Rodgers' availability before they agreed to trade for Stafford, and were told adamantly by Gute that Rodgers wasn't available. That ought to put to rest the narrative that Gute is a lone Wolf that doesn't like Rodgers or wants him gone.

[CheezWizHed]

So if the Packers had taken Stafford's deal (or potentially a bit more), would you have done it? Watson was pretty easy. Goff and a big package of picks... interesting, but I still think Rodgers is our best SB chance in the next 10 years.

 

Especially since Rodgers in LA would've made them SB favorites for a couple years at least.

[PeaveyFury]

I'd have wanted more for 2021. A third now is fine for a team like Detroit that won't compete in 2021, but the Packers could/should want something more for this year, I'd think.

 

If it was a first this year, a first, next year, and a third somewhere in one of those two years, I'd think they'd have to at least listen.

 

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm aware that the Rams don't actually HAVE a first this year, which means I think the Pack wouldn't match up well with them. But, in a vacuum, two firsts, a third, and a projectable young QB would have to make the Packers think about it if it was offered, especially if it was offered a year from now.

[CheezWizHed]

I guess I didn't look closely at the package... I'm surprised it is so little coming back this year. I guess the Lions are building for post-Rodgers era.

[PeaveyFury]

I think it's a near-perfect deal for Detroit for the reasons I noted, though I'm sure they'd have preferred a first this year if they could have received it. Still, extra third this year, a young QB that you plug in now to try to mesh with and develop, then a bunch of extra ammo to try and restock over the next few years.

[PeaveyFury]

From a Rams perspective, it really is a window-shortener trade, though. Obviously quite better immediately, and you make this deal if you feel you're a QB away. Otherwise, unless I'm mistaken, they only have their 2nd, 6th, and 7th round picks in this year's draft, though they're expected to pick up a 3rd and 4th in comp picks, I believe. After the Stafford trade, they're about $35million OVER a $176m cap, and still over a $196 cap as well.

 

Add in moving away your next two firsts, and you're really banking on the next year or two being the year to play in a SB.

[HiAndTight]

From a Rams perspective, it really is a window-shortener trade, though. Obviously quite better immediately, and you make this deal if you feel you're a QB away. Otherwise, unless I'm mistaken, they only have their 2nd, 6th, and 7th round picks in this year's draft, though they're expected to pick up a 3rd and 4th in comp picks, I believe. After the Stafford trade, they're about $35million OVER a $176m cap, and still over a $196 cap as well.

 

Add in moving away your next two firsts, and you're really banking on the next year or two being the year to play in a SB.

 

The Rams have to have invested more in the QB position than any team in the NFL. Two years ago signs a record-breaking deal...

 

2016 1st round pick (15th overall), 2016 2nd round pick (43rd overall), 2016 2nd round pick (45th overall), 2016 3rd round pick (76th), 2017 1st round pick (5th overall), and 2017 3rd round pick (100th overall).

 

And this is just a couple years after giving him a massive contract, you give up the player you traded all those picks to get and a couple more 1sts and a 3rd.

 

Yeah, safe to say they're playing for the next few years.

 

 

I want the Packers to be aggressive...not sure I want them to be quite THIS aggressive though. Stafford doesn't work and you're looking at probably ~10 years before you can expect to compete again?

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Lord, this Rodgers thing is going to have legs all summer as long as random guys keep feeding it. And someone like Rodgers should know that paying him and "going all in" are counterproductive things.

[GAME05]

I can understand the desire for a commitment, though. Not necessarily for a bigger contract, but maybe there's one which would make the cap hit worse in the last few years and make it harder for him to be traded. If he thinks the writing's on the wall, I get where he would want to get ahead of the team and take more control over his own future.

[HiAndTight]

I can understand the desire for a commitment, though. Not necessarily for a bigger contract, but maybe there's one which would make the cap hit worse in the last few years and make it harder for him to be traded. If he thinks the writing's on the wall, I get where he would want to get ahead of the team and take more control over his own future.

 

 

I do buy TJ Lang's comments to a degree. Rodgers likely does want the Packers to go all in. Rodgers is way too smart to publicly complain or have his agents say something publicly. He saw what that did to the fanbase and how it adversely affected their view of Favre.

 

I think Lang is overstating it saying he's "hellbent on revenge," but I have no doubt Rodgers wants the Packers to be more aggressive and make more win-now moves. I don't blame him for that...it's just a really bad year for that.

But I guess if he's willing to restructure with the promise from the Packers that they'd use that money to sign someone or add to this team and that would then push back their out which comes after next season, perhaps that'd assuage his concerns. Assuming he actually has any and these aren't all just friends of his watching what's happening and speaking for him. Which is entirely possible.

[sveumrules]

Crazy to think 2021 will be the 30th season of the Favre/Rodgers era. Three whole decades.

 

I was curious how the Packers stacked up against the rest of the NFL over the last 29 years so I awarded teams one point for every regular season win, two points for making the playoffs, four points for losing a conference championship game, eight points for losing a superb owl and twenty five points for winning the whole dang enchilada & this is how it all added up...

 

FAVRE YEARS (1992-2007)

 

01 NEP (255) 152 W | 10 PO | 1 CCL | 2 SBL | 3 SBW

02 DAL (236) 145 W | 10 PO | 1 CCL | 3 SBW

03 DEN (218) 154 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL | 2 SBW

04 PIT (218) 159 W | 11 PO | 4 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

05 GBP (216) 161 W | 11 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

06 IND (194) 147 W | 10 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBW

07 SF4 (189) 142 W | 9 PO | 3 CCL | 1 SBW

08 PHI (173) 143 W | 9 PO | 3 CCL | 1 SBL

09 NYG (173) 130 W | 7 PO | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

10 MIN (165) 143 W | 9 PO | 2 CCL

11 TBB (164) 125 W | 7 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBW

12 KCC (161) 145 W | 7 PO | 1 CCL

13 RAM (157) 118 W | 5 PO | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

14 BUF (154) 130 W | 6 PO | 2 SBL

15 MIA (154) 136 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL

16 SDC (148) 128 W | 6 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

17 SEA (145) 127 W | 6 PO | 1 SBL

18 CHI (130) 116 W | 4 PO | 1 SBL

19 JAX (129) 113 W | 6 PO | 2 CCL

20 RAI (129) 113 W | 4 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

21 ATL (128) 112 W | 4 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

22 NYJ (125) 113 W | 5 PO | 1 CCL

23 NOS (122) 114 W | 3 PO | 1 CCL

24 WAS (121) 113 W | 4 PO

25 BAL (120) 89 W | 4 PO | 1 SBW

26 TEN (117) 99 W | 5 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

27 CAR (113) 97 W | 3 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBL

28 DET (111) 101 W | 5 PO

29 CIN (96) 94 W | 1 PO

30 ARI (94) 92 W | 1 PO

31 CLE (84) 80 W | 2 PO

32 HOU (75) 71 W | 2 PO

 

RODGERS YEARS (2008-2020)

 

01 NEP (262) 153 W | 11 PO | 3 CCL | 2 SBL | 3 SBW

02 GBP (183) 132 W | 10 PO | 4 CCL | 1 SBW

03 PIT (182) 135 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

04 BAL (174) 129 W | 9 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBW

05 NOS (174) 133 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBW

06 SEA (168) 121 W | 9 PO | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

07 KCC (163) 116 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

08 PHI (150) 111 W | 7 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBW

09 DEN (149) 110 W | 5 PO | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

10 IND (143) 119 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

11 ATL (133) 113 W | 6 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

12 MIN (126) 110 W | 6 PO | 2 CCL

13 NYG (125) 96 W | 3 PO | 1 SBW

14 SF4 (125) 101 W | 4 PO | 2 CCL | 2 SBL

15 DAL (120) 112 W | 4 PO

16 CAR (119) 103 W | 5 PO | 1 SBL

17 ARI (118) 102 W | 4 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

18 HOU (115) 103 W | 6 PO

19 SDC (113) 105 W | 4 PO

20 TEN (111) 101 W | 4 PO | 1 CCL

21 CIN (109) 97 W | 6 PO

22 CHI (108) 100 W | 3 PO | 1 CCL

23 TBB (107) 82 | 1 PO | 1 SBW

24 NYJ (106) 98 W | 2 PO | 2 CCL

25 BUF (105) 97 W | 3 PO | 1 CCL

26 MIA (102) 98 W | 2 PO

27 RAM (98) 86 W | 3 PO | 1 SBL

28 WAS (87) 81 W | 3 PO

29 DET (85) 79 W | 3 PO

30 RAI (83) 81 W | 1 PO

31 JAX (68) 64 W | 1 PO | 1 CCL

32 CLE (64) 62 W | 1 PO

 

(BRETT & AARON 2 GETHA 4 EVA 1992-2020)

 

01 NEP (517) 306 W | 21 PO | 4 CCL | 4 SBL | 6 SBW

02 PIT (400) 294 W | 19 PO | 5 CCL | 2 SBL | 2 SBW

03 GBP (399) 293 W | 21 PO | 6 CCL | 1 SBL | 2 SBW

04 DEN (367) 264 W | 13 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL | 3 SBW

05 DAL (356) 257 W | 14 PO | 1 CCL | 3 SBW

06 IND (337) 266 W | 18 PO | 3 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

08 KCC (324) 261 W | 15 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

07 PHI (323) 254 W | 16 PO | 4 CCL | 1 SBL | 1 SBW

09 SF4 (314) 243 W | 13 PO | 5 CCL | 2 SBL | 1 SBW

10 SEA (313) 248 W | 15 PO | 2 SBL | 1 SBW

11 NYG (298) 226 W | 10 PO | 1 SBL | 2 SBW

12 NOS (296) 247 W | 11 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBW

13 BAL (294) 218 W | 13 PO | 2 CCL | 2 SBW

14 MIN (291) 253 W | 15 PO | 4 CCL

15 TBB (271) 207 W | 8 PO | 1 CCL | 2 SBW

16 ATL (261) 225 W | 10 PO | 2 CCL | 2 SBL

17 SDC (261) 233 W | 10 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

18 BUF (259) 227 W | 9 PO | 1 CCL | 2 SBL

19 MIA (256) 234 W | 10 PO | 1 CCL

20 RAM (255) 204 W | 8 PO | 2 SBL | 1 SBW

21 CHI (238) 216 W | 7 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

22 CAR (232) 200 W | 8 PO | 2 CCL | 2 SBL

23 NYJ (231) 211 W | 7 PO | 3 CCL

24 TEN (228) 200 W | 9 PO | 2 CCL | 1 SBL

25 ARI (212) 194 W | 5 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

26 RAI (212) 194 W | 5 PO | 1 CCL | 1 SBL

27 WAS (208) 194 W | 7 PO

28 CIN (205) 191 W | 7 PO

29 JAX (197) 177 W | 7 PO | 3 CCL

30 DET (196) 180 W | 8 PO

31 HOU (190) 174 W | 8 PO

32 CLE (148) 142 W | 3 PO

[OldSchoolSnapper]

About where I'd expect at the top, and interesting, though I think you weighed winning the SB a bit high. Personally I'd look at something like this as an indicator of the franchise's overall success. For those purposes, there's little difference to me between winning and losing a Super Bowl.

[SoCalBrewfan]

That is really interesting, thanks for that! Looks like there are exactly three teams who played in four or more conference championships in the Rodgers era (NE, GB, SF)? I feel like I know intuitively how difficult it is to have sustained success much less win it all, but I am honestly still really surprised by that.

 

It also points out just how fortunate (smart?) the packers have been as far as both quarterback play and simply playing meaningful football games. Like a few of us here, I remember the leaner years between SBII and Holmgren (though I was not really aware until the Lynn Dickey years), and what it's like to be a fan of a team that might, if everything goes right, qualify for the playoffs as a wild card.

[nodakfan17]

Adam Schefter is reporting that Aaron Rodgers is so disgruntled with the Packers that he doesn’t want to return to the team.