Report: Rodgers wants new contract (Update: May not want to return in 2021)

[PeaveyFury]

Sounds a lot like the Packer fans who couldn't possibly envision how the Packers could win without Favre 13 years ago.

 

Is this supposed to be in blue or are you serious?

 

What about my post makes you think I'm not serious?

 

Pointing out it's unlikely

 

Where in your original post did you say unlikely?

[PinaMadness]

Sounds a lot like the Packer fans who couldn't possibly envision how the Packers could win without Favre 13 years ago.

 

 

Is this supposed to be in blue or are you serious?

 

Pointing out it's unlikely that the Packers next QB will be as good as Aaron Rodgers sounds to YOU like a Packers fan who "couldn't possibly envision how the Packers could win without Favre?"

 

Is this going to be the only response from now on? If you question that just maybe losing Rodgers doesn't make the Packers better the ONLY response is, "but Rodgers?"

It's a tired argument. I think he's being ultra hyperbolic about 99% of the fans thinking we wouldn't win without Favre. Those feelings had more to do with them being Favre sycophants instead of not realizing Rodgers talent. How could anyone seriously think the team couldn't win with the QB that should've been the #1 overall pick?

[PeaveyFury]

I think he's being ultra hyperbolic about 99% of the fans thinking we wouldn't win without Favre.

 

You should probably go back and re-read that quote and correct yourself.

 

But still, it's not nearly as hyperbolic as anyone claiming to have seen anything out of Love to justify an evaluation of his possible success, right?

[HiAndTight]

Sounds a lot like the Packer fans who couldn't possibly envision how the Packers could win without Favre 13 years ago.

 

Is this supposed to be in blue or are you serious?

 

What about my post makes you think I'm not serious?

 

Pointing out it's unlikely

 

Where in your original post did you say unlikely?

 

"Sure...it's an opinion...that it's unlikely our next QB's down season will look like Aaron Rodgers when his team goes 13-3 and he throws 24/4 in what is considered a down year(his first year in a new system)."

 

Right up there

[HiAndTight]

I think he's being ultra hyperbolic about 99% of the fans thinking we wouldn't win without Favre.

 

You should probably go back and re-read that quote and correct yourself.

 

But still, it's not nearly as hyperbolic as anyone claiming to have seen anything out of Love to justify an evaluation of his possible success, right?

 

 

If only ANYONE was making that argument....

[PeaveyFury]

 

Where in your original post did you say unlikely?

 

"Sure...it's an opinion...that it's unlikely our next QB's down season will look like Aaron Rodgers when his team goes 13-3 and he throws 24/4 in what is considered a down year(his first year in a new system)."

 

Right up there

 

I said your original post.

[PeaveyFury]

But still, it's not nearly as hyperbolic as anyone claiming to have seen anything out of Love to justify an evaluation of his possible success, right?

 

 

If only ANYONE was making that argument....

 

.....

 

Then I was part of the 1% that believed Rodgers was the real deal and would become one of the all time greats. I was thrilled when the Packers traded Favre.

 

Sorry, but I just don't see it in Jordan Love.

[PinaMadness]

But still, it's not nearly as hyperbolic as anyone claiming to have seen anything out of Love to justify an evaluation of his possible success, right?

 

 

If only ANYONE was making that argument....

 

.....

 

Then I was part of the 1% that believed Rodgers was the real deal and would become one of the all time greats. I was thrilled when the Packers traded Favre.

 

Sorry, but I just don't see it in Jordan Love.

You do realize he played college ball, right? I have a hard time believing someone who led the nation in interceptions will be the next Aaron Rodgers.

[PeaveyFury]

You do realize he played college ball, right? I have a hard time believing someone who led the nation in interceptions will be the next Aaron Rodgers.

 

32 TDs, 6 INT's in his second to last year before he lost his entire offense around him. How many of those games were you able to watch?

[xisxisxis]

You do realize he played college ball, right? I have a hard time believing someone who led the nation in interceptions will be the next Aaron Rodgers.

 

32 TDs, 6 INT's in his second to last year before he lost his entire offense around him. How many of those games were you able to watch?

Plus a new OC in 2019. I guess Rodgers gets the pass for a new system, but Love doesn't.

[PeaveyFury]

My point is, (and I do apologize if it's unfair to categorize fans now with fans 13 years ago, as not all were in the same boat, I know) we've seen literally nothing out of Love so far at this level to make any kind of determination regarding his possible success or failures, yet a lot of fans, whether here, on twitter, or the radio call-in shows have seemingly decided that he's the next Brett Hundley, and that's exceptionally unfair.

 

Could he flame out? Absolutely. But to assume so, especially now and considering the COVID circumstances with his first year in the league, is flat out unfair. And like it or not, it's the same stuff we heard about Favre vs. Rodgers 13 years ago ('back to the 80s/dark ages, etc.), and that ended up working out ok....

[OnTheBlack]

You do realize he played college ball, right? I have a hard time believing someone who led the nation in interceptions will be the next Aaron Rodgers.

 

32 TDs, 6 INT's in his second to last year before he lost his entire offense around him. How many of those games were you able to watch?

Plus a new OC in 2019. I guess Rodgers gets the pass for a new system, but Love doesn't.

 

 

Rodgers threw for 24 TD's and 4 INT's in his first year in a new system.

I don't think he needs a pass.

[JET15]

Anything to this Schlereth story that #12 is going to Denver?

 

https://www.awesemo.com/sideaction/mark-schlereth-got-a-text-from-aaron-rodgers-after-he-reported-that-the-packers-qb-was-close-to-being-traded-to-the-broncos-bjs

[PeaveyFury]

Anything to this Schlereth story that #12 is going to Denver?

 

https://www.awesemo.com/sideaction/mark-schlereth-got-a-text-from-aaron-rodgers-after-he-reported-that-the-packers-qb-was-close-to-being-traded-to-the-broncos-bjs

 

We'll never know who Schlereth's source was, or how he got it so wrong, I'd assume.

[JET15]

Anything to this Schlereth story that #12 is going to Denver?

 

https://www.awesemo.com/sideaction/mark-schlereth-got-a-text-from-aaron-rodgers-after-he-reported-that-the-packers-qb-was-close-to-being-traded-to-the-broncos-bjs

 

We'll never know who Schlereth's source was, or how he got it so wrong, I'd assume.

 

He freely admitted he's more concerned about sharting himself, so he's got that going for himself

[xisxisxis]

Rodgers threw for 24 TD's and 4 INT's in his first year in a new system.

I don't think he needs a pass.

Good to see you back.

 

Aren’t TDs and INts for QBs the equivalent of W/L for Pitchers? Didn’t get the upgrade on Advanced stats for Football?

[OnTheBlack]

Rodgers threw for 24 TD's and 4 INT's in his first year in a new system.

I don't think he needs a pass.

Good to see you back.

 

Aren’t TDs and INts for QBs the equivalent of W/L for Pitchers? Didn’t get the upgrade on Advanced stats for Football?

 

13-3

[MrTPlush]

Today’s crazy rumor is that Rodgers wants Gute fired or he will seriously consider not showing up or even retiring.

 

I’m pretty far on Rodgers side of this garbage...but if the above is true Mark Murphy should not ditch Gute over it all. Seems like Gute has done a pretty good job. If the relationship with Rodgers is that broken they need to figure out how to part ways and get good value for him.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Today’s crazy rumor is that Rodgers wants Gute fired or he will seriously consider not showing up or even retiring.

 

I’m pretty far on Rodgers side of this garbage...but if the above is true Mark Murphy should not ditch Gute over it all. Seems like Gute has done a pretty good job. If the relationship with Rodgers is that broken they need to figure out how to part ways and get good value for him.

 

So apparently Rodgers must have learned how to act like a selfish primadonna from Favre when he was around that fiasco 13 years ago...he's throwing a tantrum at the GM who's doing his job the way it should be done. Rodgers doesn't have to like it, but he can't act like he's being wronged.

 

One thing about drafting Love in last season's draft people forget - there was far from any guarantees there would have even been a 2020 football season at this time last year. Say the 2020 season doesn't happen and we're left with Rodgers' 2018 and 2019 regular seasons to go off trying to figure out where he is as a player for 2021, which would be the last season in his current deal it would make financial sense to keep him as a Packer before either extending him or looking to trade him. Does it not make perfect sense to draft a QB you think could take over for him in a couple years if Rodgers doesn't have a huge bounceback so you don't waste a few rebuilding years in seasons 2022-2023?

[OldHeidelberg]

Today’s crazy rumor is that Rodgers wants Gute fired or he will seriously consider not showing up or even retiring.

 

I’m pretty far on Rodgers side of this garbage...but if the above is true Mark Murphy should not ditch Gute over it all. Seems like Gute has done a pretty good job. If the relationship with Rodgers is that broken they need to figure out how to part ways and get good value for him.

 

That Gutes may be the guy who doesn't love the idea of having Rodgers long term isn't really a new revelation, we discussed it here when this story started shortly after the Tampa loss. I like Gutes too and feel like once again the org realized (way too late) that things were stale and did a good job once they got out of cruise control and paid attention to football again to put this team back on track. They are probably making a big mistake with Rodgers, he didn't look anything like a older Peyton Manning last year, but just like moving on from MM/TT I think it may be best to end this and get a bunch of future picks while Rodgers is as valuable as he will ever be. Rodgers is giving them their out, at this point it is just a matter of the Packers trying to ease the blow on the fans and make Rodgers look like the bad guy. I am not buying that is all Rodgers leveraging for a bigger contract but time will tell. Still hope he will be back but like I said earlier I am fine with moving on.

 

We were probably aiming too high with our thoughts on the SF and Denver picks Thursday, those are high picks and while he may have that value I don't see too much more tacked on. Packers would probably prefer a lot of future picks to use to build around Love and more picks makes it more likely the trade will work out better for them.

[SeaBass]

LOL ok that's the best example so far for how self-important Rodgers has become or has just been this entire time. I feel like I've understood his reasoning on most things but this is outside of logic and reality stuff right here. So petty.

 

Fact is that by dropping the bomb on draft day it gave the Packers zero time to explore trade deals that could take advantage of this year's draft. That's a huge factor. I'm sure parts of that was Rodgers wanting to pressure them into trading with the 49ers since they had explored an offer already.

 

But now that they've missed the boat on getting a premium 1st round pick there really isn't much incentive for a Packers to rush into a trade. Future draft picks just aren't as valuable, if they send Rodgers to a new team that team is likely to be a playoff team, what use is getting a few late 1st round picks when they'd be stepping straight into cap hell with a QB that is likely not ready to start in Jordan Love?

 

If they trade him, and I'm not certain they will, they might prefer he retire, it's much more likely they wait until after June 1st and will likely require getting a stud player or an up and coming potential stud player in addition to draft picks. Plus they need to figure out who they can acquire to start at QB for them until Love is ready.

[OldHeidelberg]

LOL ok that's the best example so far for how self-important Rodgers has become or has just been this entire time. I feel like I've understood his reasoning on most things but this is outside of logic and reality stuff right here. So petty.

 

Fact is that by dropping the bomb on draft day it gave the Packers zero time to explore trade deals that could take advantage of this year's draft. That's a huge factor. I'm sure parts of that was Rodgers wanting to pressure them into trading with the 49ers since they had explored an offer already.

 

But now that they've missed the boat on getting a premium 1st round pick there really isn't much incentive for a Packers to rush into a trade. Future draft picks just aren't as valuable, if they send Rodgers to a new team that team is likely to be a playoff team, what use is getting a few late 1st round picks when they'd be stepping straight into cap hell with a QB that is likely not ready to start in Jordan Love?

 

If they trade him, and I'm not certain they will, they might prefer he retire, it's much more likely they wait until after June 1st and will likely require getting a stud player or an up and coming potential stud player in addition to draft picks. Plus they need to figure out who they can acquire to start at QB for them until Love is ready.

 

I would question how much value a 38 year QB who is always among the highest paid and wants a new contract really has the more I have thought about it. A couple of lower 1st and couple more maybe 3rd or 4th round future picks may be it.

[pacopete4]

Let him rot(in retirement) if he doesn’t want to play. Who cares? I know I wouldn’t. I’ve enjoyed his QB play and appreciate it but some of this nonsense just has to be nipped.

[SeaBass]

Let him rot(in retirement) if he doesn’t want to play. Who cares? I know I wouldn’t. I’ve enjoyed his QB play and appreciate it but some of this nonsense just has to be nipped.

I just had a quick fantasy of Gute faxing Rodgers retirement forms with a cover sheet that just has a smiley face on it.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Let him rot(in retirement) if he doesn’t want to play. Who cares? I know I wouldn’t. I’ve enjoyed his QB play and appreciate it but some of this nonsense just has to be nipped.

 

If he were to retire, the team gets out clean from his contract? And Rodgers has to pay back $25 mil in bonus’? I don’t know if I see that happening.

 

He seems like a guy acting like he has all the leverage but doesn’t? Or maybe I’m not seeing it clearly. If Love showed to be terrible the past year in practice/film study, I’m not sure this all happens.