Report: Rodgers wants new contract (Update: May not want to return in 2021)

[homer]

One article I read on CBS Sports this morning mentioned something to the effect of ‘For the 20th consecutive year, the Packers failed to draft a WR in the first round’ ... as if the objective of the draft was to take a WR every year.

 

Didn't the Lions draft 3 receivers in the top 10 in three consecutive years? Lotta good that did them

[PeaveyFury]

That "stat" is one that drives me crazy. I hate facts like that when they completely ignore context. Don't you think they might have drafted one in the first round if they didn't draft Jennings, Nelson, Cobb and Adams all AFTER the first round? The story should be that they had those WRs without using a first round pick.

 

This is so accurate. TT made massive hay drafting all-pro receivers in the 2nd/3rd round. Such a silly technicality.

[wOOgiE22]

The Packers will also be getting Devin Funchess back next year. I don’t know how he will respond after taking a year off, but it is all not bleak on the WR front right now. We were literally a CB away from the Super Bowl last year. They drafted a major hole that could potentially make this team better right away.

[HiAndTight]

He won't get traded this year. I just can't see it. If Rodgers had a little diva tantrum it was likely to get them to sign him or make some big move. He'll be a good soldier and show up when it's time to play. That John Lynch was so dismissive about their attempt tells me it's not even a consideration from the Packers.

 

It does feel more likely to me than ever that he will be elsewhere sooner than later though.

 

 

I definitely think Rodgers is a Diva(and that the Packers almost certainly won't trade him), but I also am skeptical that this was just him throwing a tantrum.

 

It sounds like they've tried to extend him...maybe it was a Romo/Brady type deal where they give him 15 million now and then he just adds a few years that aren't guaranteed. That'd be the smart move if his top priority was winning and if the Packers would put that money into a position of need(Schwartz for example) that'd help him out.

 

But the new X-factor is the chance that he could get that Jeopardy gig.

 

 

There are a million and one great things about not having an owner, but it feels like this is a situation where Jerry Jones or even Daniel Snyder could have come in and assuaged his concerns last year.

 

I'm not even sure exactly what his issue is right now. It can't possibly be what the moronic talking heads are saying, ie, we need to and haven't gotten him a WR'er. That's not our problem. We're not loaded there, but we have a superstar, a really nice possession WR'er, a deep threat, a younger guy in EQ with big upside, a TE, and an RB who are both good at catching the ball, and we just invested a massive new contract to his best friend on the team and his LT.

 

So does this go back to Love? Did he feel insulted by the contract the Packers tried to get him to sign? I don't know, but the Packers hold the cards in terms of where Rodgers plays. Obviously, IF Rodgers plays isn't up to them, but I'd keep building while assuming he's going to be here the next 2-3 years.

[homer]

I think Rodgers and Love have the same agent.

[MrTPlush]

I think Rodgers and Love have the same agent.

 

That seems kind of crazy to be honest. I am not sure why either of them would want to have the same agent.

 

 

Regarding receivers and the first round. The stat is ridiculous, but was more funny than notable until the last few years where the receiving core seemed to be lacking on paper. However, it doesn't seem too bleak after last year. While the media talks about this and it was a big topic going into the draft...does Rodgers actually care about this anymore? Maybe last offseason he wanted a big splash, but does he actually want/expect that this year? Something tells me he doesn't.

[PeaveyFury]

I think Rodgers and Love have the same agent.

 

They do, in fact.

[HiAndTight]

That "stat" is one that drives me crazy. I hate facts like that when they completely ignore context. Don't you think they might have drafted one in the first round if they didn't draft Jennings, Nelson, Cobb and Adams all AFTER the first round? The story should be that they had those WRs without using a first round pick.

 

 

Yeah, I just jumped down a Packer's fan's throat on Twitter(after we were talking about how bad Twitter is, so I did apologize) after he said this;

 

He said, "The Packers have NEVER given Rodgers any help...he's made every WR'er he's played with."

 

Then he kinda contradicted himself and said they've never had a good 2nd option when they had Nelson and now with Adams, but it is infuriating.

 

 

We definitely could use a really elusive WR'er/RB-type weapon. Someone like Gibson who went just after Dillon last year(like the kid from UCLA Felton). But really, we've got the offensive weapons. That isn't the problem. So I REALLY doubt Rodgers is upset that we're not adding a WR'er so much as he's upset that they didn't address a more immediate need with the Love pick and bring in more talent this off-season(though they were handcuffed due to his contract).

[PeaveyFury]

So does this go back to Love?

 

If it does, how absolutely absurd is it that he would do to Love exactly what was done to him 13 years ago?

[xisxisxis]

So does this go back to Love?

 

If it does, how absolutely absurd is it that he would do to Love exactly what was done to him 13 years ago?

Yeah, for all the Rodgers is a smart guy talk, he is walking the same walk and talking the same talk as Favre. I really don't understand all the Packers fans emotional reaction to the second time we are going through the drama. Usually people are stronger after going through a hardship not a mass of jello...

[PeaveyFury]

That "stat" is one that drives me crazy. I hate facts like that when they completely ignore context. Don't you think they might have drafted one in the first round if they didn't draft Jennings, Nelson, Cobb and Adams all AFTER the first round? The story should be that they had those WRs without using a first round pick.

 

 

Yeah, I just jumped down a Packer's fan's throat on Twitter(after we were talking about how bad Twitter is, so I did apologize) after he said this;

 

He said, "The Packers have NEVER given Rodgers any help...he's made every WR'er he's played with."

 

Then he kinda contradicted himself and said they've never had a good 2nd option when they had Nelson and now with Adams, but it is infuriating.

 

The media seems to be fueling this narrative, and some fans with very selective memories are buying it, incorrectly. At one point, Rodgers had a WR room of Driver, Jennings, James Jones, Nelson, and Cobb. How crazy good was that? Add in Adams a bit later. Maybe we only think our WR room has lesser talent now because of how great Thompson was of stocking it with talent previously?

[MrTPlush]

I think the utter lack of using the talent correctly by McCarthy (at the end of his tenure) was a bigger crime to Rodgers than the actual personnel was.

[pacopete4]

It gets tough to be looked at as the leader of this team when you let this type of nonsense float around in the offseason. It becomes null when you are the best QB in the league and will return to putting up video game numbers in the fall but it sure can't help the locker room out much.

[bjkrautk]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

[HiAndTight]

So does this go back to Love?

 

If it does, how absolutely absurd is it that he would do to Love exactly what was done to him 13 years ago?

 

 

Yeah, nobody is setting Love up for success at this point. IF Rodgers leaves even after next year because he's upset with the team, that blame is going to be felt the most by Love...pretty unfairly. And he's going to have to be a very good NFL QB to endure that.

 

I really liked Love last year and I think he's got a chance, but not if he takes over in the same type of situation Rodgers did. He doesn't seem like he has the confidence and even arrogance that has served Rodgers well.

 

 

And even if it's not because of Love..as the rumblings about Rodgers not being happy came out long before the selection of Love with reports about him not being happy with McCarthy, as justified as they turned out to be, him being upset he didn't know they were firing his position coach and then a whole litany of issues we wouldn't have the first clue about, the blame is still going to fall on Love's shoulders.

 

It's amazing how many people are already calling him a bust...with the main reason being, "He wasn't active for a game last year." That's also the dumbest as it just wasn't necessary.

[HiAndTight]

That "stat" is one that drives me crazy. I hate facts like that when they completely ignore context. Don't you think they might have drafted one in the first round if they didn't draft Jennings, Nelson, Cobb and Adams all AFTER the first round? The story should be that they had those WRs without using a first round pick.

 

 

Yeah, I just jumped down a Packer's fan's throat on Twitter(after we were talking about how bad Twitter is, so I did apologize) after he said this;

 

He said, "The Packers have NEVER given Rodgers any help...he's made every WR'er he's played with."

 

Then he kinda contradicted himself and said they've never had a good 2nd option when they had Nelson and now with Adams, but it is infuriating.

 

The media seems to be fueling this narrative, and some fans with very selective memories are buying it, incorrectly. At one point, Rodgers had a WR room of Driver, Jennings, James Jones, Nelson, and Cobb. How crazy good was that? Add in Adams a bit later. Maybe we only think our WR room has lesser talent now because of how great Thompson was of stocking it with talent previously?

 

 

And let's not leave out Finley. He was on his way to becoming an All-Pro TE.

 

They also went out and got Jared Cook, they signed Bennett.

 

 

The problem for most of Rodgers tenure(when there was a problem) was on the defensive side of the ball and then if you want to blame the Front Office, they weren't aggressive enough in plugging those holes in my opinion. Particularly the last few years, but Rodgers has generally had a lot of talent to throw to.

 

Just because they weren't 1st round picks...

 

In that same stupid conversation, the guy on Twitter tried telling me the difference in the NFCCG came down to the Buccs spending a 5th round pick on Tyler Johnson who caught a key pass on 3rd down while the Packers went with a UDFA who couldn't come up with a key catch on a similar player.

 

So there is no shortage of stupid opinions and bad takes out there.

[xisxisxis]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

BINGO!

I also think that we shouldn't overlook the Jeopardy part of the equation. That's a perfect situation for an egotist like AR. In Hollywood you are the greatest thing ever and you can do no wrong until they are done with you. Aaron likely would feed off the constant stroking of his ego and it plays perfectly to his need to be the best every day, every minute and for everything he says and does.

[nodakfan17]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

That’s sort of where I’m at too ... Love is still ‘mint in box’ due to the unique offseason / preseason situation last year. The Packers have been the only team evaluating him for the last 12 months. If they privately thought he wasn’t as good as their pre-draft assessment, I think they would have just given Rodgers whatever he wanted by now.

[HiAndTight]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

 

 

I love the optimism!

[HiAndTight]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

BINGO!

I also think that we shouldn't overlook the Jeopardy part of the equation. That's a perfect situation for an egotist like AR. In Hollywood you are the greatest thing ever and you can do no wrong until they are done with you. Aaron likely would feed off the constant stroking of his ego and it plays perfectly to his need to be the best every day, every minute and for everything he says and does.

 

 

Do you really think that's much different than how he's treated right now?

 

He's the 3 Time MVP of the Green Bay Packers. I'm pretty sure his ego is getting plenty of attention. I think that's just something that gives him some leverage.

[HiAndTight]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

That’s sort of where I’m at too ... Love is still ‘mint in box’ due to the unique offseason / preseason situation last year. The Packers have been the only team evaluating him for the last 12 months. If they privately thought he wasn’t as good as their pre-draft assessment, I think they would have just given Rodgers whatever he wanted by now.

 

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I kinda took that as a tongue-in-cheek joke.

 

The Packers have offered Rodgers an extension and the President and GM have flown out to talk to him. I don't think how Jordan Love looks at practice is going to scare Aaron Rodgers at ALL.

 

I think it's more about the Packers options. They may be trying to keep their options open MORE than he'd like....though still, offering him an extension would suggest that they're planning on or would like him to be their QB for at least a couple more years past next season I'd think.

[GreatNWwi]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

That’s sort of where I’m at too ... Love is still ‘mint in box’ due to the unique offseason / preseason situation last year. The Packers have been the only team evaluating him for the last 12 months. If they privately thought he wasn’t as good as their pre-draft assessment, I think they would have just given Rodgers whatever he wanted by now.

 

After reading/listening to a lot of opinions about what is going on, it seems that all the conversation comes down too an appearance that most fans and talking heads think the 3 time MVP is threatened by some 2020 draft pick who is poised to take his spot away..

[HiAndTight]

The one bright side in this: presumably Aaron has seen Jordan Love in practice. If Love stinks (apologies, J. Geils Band), #12 would be a lot less worried about his long-term security in Green Bay.

That’s sort of where I’m at too ... Love is still ‘mint in box’ due to the unique offseason / preseason situation last year. The Packers have been the only team evaluating him for the last 12 months. If they privately thought he wasn’t as good as their pre-draft assessment, I think they would have just given Rodgers whatever he wanted by now.

 

After reading/listening to a lot of opinions about what is going on, it seems that all the conversation comes down too an appearance that most fans and talking heads think the 3 time MVP is threatened by some 2020 draft pick who is poised to take his spot away..

 

 

I think most of the takes are that the Packers aren't doing enough to win now and they're planning for the future while Aaron is running out of time more than he's afraid Love is going to take his job.

 

I think he just wants a bigger commitment from the Packers, both in the form of money and a contract...and addressing certain needs.

 

Even people who think that the Packers are going to move on from Rodgers in favor of Love don't think they'll do it because Love will be better, rather the money saved will make it easier for the Packers to win...I guess.

[xisxisxis]

I think most of the takes are that the Packers aren't doing enough to win now and they're planning for the future while Aaron is running out of time more than he's afraid Love is going to take his job.

Yeah, but I think that's been placed on Gute when most of the issue arose because of Ted Thompson's draft record near the end and his avoidance of the FA market to address deficiencies. The Packer's record really hid the fact that there was a huge talent dropoff at many positions during that time and Gute has had to address those both through the draft and by spending a lot of money in FA to get more talent back onto the team. You can only upgrade so much at-a-time, but the press seems to think that the 2020 Packers are no different than the 2016 Packers and Gute just fiddles while Rodger's burns...

[GreatNWwi]

I think the argument that they are not doing enough to win now has mostly been proven wrong, even in this thread.

 

As far as a bigger commitment from the Packers, he has had that in the past, apparently, they have been working on it. I think this is the biggest stumbling block on both sides.

 

I am not suggesting that Love will be better or that others think he will. But your point about having more money to work with is probably accurate and the threat that people are referring too. All of a sudden, they can sign/resign high quality and depth.