Report: Rodgers wants new contract (Update: May not want to return in 2021)

[DuWayne Steurer]

In 2020, the league averaged 65.2 % on completions, and 3800 yards passing per game, and a 2.2% int rate.

 

Just 13 years ago, Brett's last year in GB, the league averaged 61.2 % completions (pretty significant), 3400 yards passing, and had a 3.1% interception rate.

 

It's not a HUGE change, but it's significant. The league is definitely slanting more towards accurate, risk averse passing, and passing more.

 

Bit of cherry picking to take 2020 when Rodgers is 37 and was a lock for the HOF like 5 years ago.

 

I don't think anyone will argue that teams pass more than they did in 1997 but I'm not even looking at the stats to say Rodgers is better. He does more things than Favre and does just about every one of them better, besides turn the ball over. Accuracy and mobility aren't close, he has a better deep ball, I guess he gets hurt more...and I call baloney on Rodgers couldn't take a pounding. Rodgers has taken plenty of bad hits.

 

I dunno how anyone can look at Rodgers and say he couldn't play in the 90s...it sounds a bit extreme. It's fair to say his stats are inflated over Favre's, which I said first, but the two aren't all that close IMO when you're talking value added to a team

 

The great divide is the turnovers. There was more tolerance for them in the 90s but the gap between them transcends it. It's enormous.

 

in 2007, the league average completion % was 61.2. In 1997 it was 56.2 %. I'm not cherry picking anything. The league is trending more and more towards accurate, risk averse passing.

 

FWIW, Brett's career INT% was 3.3 percent. Sure, the gulf between Rodgers and Favre in that category is big. Rodgers has the lowest INT% of all time. So compare the guy who throws the fewest INT's ever, against a guy who played a decade + earlier, when INT's were accepted at a 67% higher rate, and yes, you'll have a pretty big divide.

 

I also didn't say that Rodgers couldn't play in the 90's..... but it was a different game. I'd be willing to put a quarter on the fact that Rodgers and Brees wouldn't have been playing in 95 or 97 putting up 68-70 percent completion rates. It was a short time ago, sure, but the way the NFL changes rules and defenses and offenses adjust, the game does change stylistically at a pretty rapid pace (comparitively)

[CheezWizHed]

Right...he wouldn't have been able to play through a lot of those hits. But to say you don't think he'd have played well in his era? That just doesn't make any sense at all.

 

Nope. I said they would not have had as good of careers as they had. It is hard to compare players head to head. Yes, their careers overlapped, but situations are different.

 

 

You said you didn't think Rodgers would have played well in Favre's era.

 

 

If you said you don't think he'd put up the same type of numbers he has or that he may have gotten more injured, that I'd agree with...but I see no reason he wouldn't have been the best QB of that era as well.

 

My apologies for omitting the word "as". He wouldn't play as well. That is why I clarified it in follow-up post.

[CheezWizHed]

Right...he wouldn't have been able to play through a lot of those hits. But to say you don't think he'd have played well in his era? That just doesn't make any sense at all.

 

Nope. I said they would not have had as good of careers as they had. It is hard to compare players head to head. Yes, their careers overlapped, but situations are different.

 

 

You said you didn't think Rodgers would have played well in Favre's era.

 

 

If you said you don't think he'd put up the same type of numbers he has or that he may have gotten more injured, that I'd agree with...but I see no reason he wouldn't have been the best QB of that era as well.

 

My apologies for omitting the word "as". He wouldn't play as well. That is why I clarified it in follow-up post.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't think comparing Favre's interceptions to the guy who's thrown the fewest ever is all that unreasonable when both are in the Hall of Fame and pretty unanimously the top 12 or so to ever play. We're talking about separating the best of the best. An interception is the single biggest play that can happen in a game, so it's not an insignificant detail to me.

 

The difference is that Rodgers is top 3 and Favre is top, I dunno, 8-12.

 

And I'd take it one further and say that the trend in risk averse and accurate passing is in large part because of Aaron Rodgers.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't think comparing Favre's interceptions to the guy who's thrown the fewest ever is all that unreasonable when both are in the Hall of Fame and pretty unanimously the top 12 or so to ever play. We're talking about separating the best of the best. An interception is the single biggest play that can happen in a game, so it's not an insignificant detail to me.

 

The difference is that Rodgers is top 3 and Favre is top, I dunno, 8-12.

 

And I'd take it one further and say that the trend in risk averse and accurate passing is in large part because of Aaron Rodgers.

[rickh150]

Rodgers is better than Favre.

Favre had so much fun playing.... great interview. He was Green Bay. I felt more emotionally tied to him leaving than Rodgers, if or when he does.

[rickh150]

Rodgers is better than Favre.

Favre had so much fun playing.... great interview. He was Green Bay. I felt more emotionally tied to him leaving than Rodgers, if or when he does.

[JET15]

Are the Broncos still alive on this thing? We may have to wait and see

https://fansided.com/2021/04/29/broncos-dont-draft-justin-fields-aaron-rodgers-dream-alive

[JET15]

Are the Broncos still alive on this thing? We may have to wait and see

https://fansided.com/2021/04/29/broncos-dont-draft-justin-fields-aaron-rodgers-dream-alive

[HarveysWBs]

If the relationship is irreparable, Gute could always call up Rodgers when GB is on the clock: “Hey, Aaron? Yeah, we’re up. Who you thinking? WR? Yeah that sounds good. Ttyl.” Hand in your card: D-lineman. Text Rodgers: “I’m not stuck here with you. You are stuck here with me.”

[HarveysWBs]

If the relationship is irreparable, Gute could always call up Rodgers when GB is on the clock: “Hey, Aaron? Yeah, we’re up. Who you thinking? WR? Yeah that sounds good. Ttyl.” Hand in your card: D-lineman. Text Rodgers: “I’m not stuck here with you. You are stuck here with me.”

[HiAndTight]

 

My apologies for omitting the word "as". He wouldn't play as well. That is why I clarified it in follow-up post.

 

 

I'm still a little confused. Are you saying he wouldn't have played as well as Favre or just as well as he's played in the era he's in?

 

If it's the later, I think that would go for literally every other QB playing. Mahomes would have been great, but nothing like he is right now if his career started when Favre's did. The QB is just so protected now and on top of that, they keep making it easier to throw the ball, etc..all things we all know.

 

I took it to mean you thought if Rodgers and Favre played in the same era, Rodgers wouldn't have been as good as Favre.

[RollieTime]

I refuse to believe the Packers front office is stupid enough to somehow tick off a legend QB, have him win a MVP, tick him off more, and then he never plays for them again.

 

I don’t care who the QB is...you can’t be dumb enough to let that happen. If it does Love either wins them a Super Bowl or Gute and Co. go down as the biggest idiots in Green Bay history.

 

Get the pitchforks ready. They are showing just how dumb and idiotic they are for letting it get to this point.

[HiAndTight]

I refuse to believe the Packers front office is stupid enough to somehow tick off a legend QB, have him win a MVP, tick him off more, and then he never plays for them again.

 

I don’t care who the QB is...you can’t be dumb enough to let that happen. If it does Love either wins them a Super Bowl or Gute and Co. go down as the biggest idiots in Green Bay history.

 

Get the pitchforks ready. They are showing just how dumb and idiotic they are for letting it get to this point.

 

 

I'm just not ready to believe this is going to end up this badly.

[nodakfan17]

A few months ago, it seemed like Russell Wilson was done in Seattle, but that situation has since de-escalated. I’m cautiously optimistic. For as critical as most fans are (myself included sometimes), Green Bay is still a fairly well-run organization and they are positioned to win a lot of games next season.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

He won't get traded this year. I just can't see it. If Rodgers had a little diva tantrum it was likely to get them to sign him or make some big move. He'll be a good soldier and show up when it's time to play. That John Lynch was so dismissive about their attempt tells me it's not even a consideration from the Packers.

 

It does feel more likely to me than ever that he will be elsewhere sooner than later though.

[MrTPlush]

Aaron Rodgers is a pretty smart guy. I am sure he is well of how the cap works and how it makes essentially zero sense to trade him etc etc etc.

 

So, yah, I don't think he will be traded and I don't think Rodgers himself (if these rumors are true) actually thinks there is any chance he gets traded.

[JET15]

I guarantee you this is happening all over a jumpy Wisconsin this morning...

 

"The Packers drafted a cornerback from Georgia"

 

"WHAT?!!! THE PACKERS DRAFTED A QUARTERBACK?!!!"

[PeaveyFury]

I guarantee you this is happening all over a jumpy Wisconsin this morning...

 

"The Packers drafted a cornerback from Georgia"

 

"WHAT?!!! THE PACKERS DRAFTED A QUARTERBACK?!!!"

 

My wife made me repeat myself three times last night to clarify exactly that when I told her about the pick.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Here's something I really don't understand and just seems like making noise just to make noise.

 

-Rodgers wants clear help to get a title

-Rodgers just won MVP throwing near 50 TDs to the best WR in the league, MVS who looked REALLY good at the end of the year, Tonyan and Lazard who I think is a decent depth option. They bring back TD machine Aaron Jones and have AJ Dillon. They have the best LT in football.

-CB is arguably the worst spot on the team after Alexander. At the least it was a major position of need and a clear attempt to immediately make the team better...

 

"They're doing nothing to help Rodgers!"

 

Am I just losing my mind or does anyone else feel that none of this narrative makes sense? And if Rodgers refused to restructure and demanded an extension, that's fine, but he can't whine about lack of personnel then. If any of this is true it's like he doesn't even know what he actually wants.

[PeaveyFury]

I'm not even sure that takes it far enough, OSS. Reports are that Rodgers' agent has been in GB working on an extension for the past few weeks. The 'they don't want me' narrative seems really thin.

[MrTPlush]

There is almost no point into even trying to guess what is actually going on. It been proven quite often the media is just stirring up a lot of this. So much has been proven totally false or so misleading it might as well be false. Many times (including this new drama) it doesn't even make sense. Rodgers has become one of those talking points that just has to be drama filled. Packers could have won the Super Bowl and I have no doubt there would still be media trying to stir up drama about him.

[nodakfan17]

One article I read on CBS Sports this morning mentioned something to the effect of ‘For the 20th consecutive year, the Packers failed to draft a WR in the first round’ ... as if the objective of the draft was to take a WR every year.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

That "stat" is one that drives me crazy. I hate facts like that when they completely ignore context. Don't you think they might have drafted one in the first round if they didn't draft Jennings, Nelson, Cobb and Adams all AFTER the first round? The story should be that they had those WRs without using a first round pick.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Some of this is Rodgers' ability to distribute the ball and the scheme the Packers currently have offensively, but the Packers' overall receiving corps (WRs, TEs, RBs) right now is probably top 5 in the NFL in terms of personnel. They have a dynamic receiver leading each position group (Adams WR, Tonyan TE, Jones RB), and also have young developing players below them in the depth chart that Gute has brought in via the draft.

 

Stories about Rodgers not having enough around him are disproven by the fact they were the #1 offense last season. That's not just Rodgers turning a bunch of pumpkins into studs - because the 2018-2019 offensive statistics sort of proved that when the personnel Rodgers was playing with on offense did need some talent upgrades and/or more development. It's just lazy and jaded to say otherwise.