2021 Misc. MLB News

[TURBO]

Bad news, too bad this will ruin one of our window years with this pitching staff...

[TURBO]

Pretty damn risky for a sport that seems to be dying out with viewership.

 

Took a lot of people years to come back from the '94 strike, this time it may be longer.

 

This is just plain stupid.

[monty57]

Pretty damn risky for a sport that seems to be dying out with viewership.

 

Took a lot of people years to come back from the '94 strike, this time it may be longer.

 

This is just plain stupid.

 

If this delays the season, than I agree. If the "work stoppage" is December and January, and the season isn't delayed, I doubt that most fans would even notice.

 

The article noted "manipulating service time." It will be interesting to see if the players are looking to shorten the "three pre-arby years, three arby years" timeframe, or if they are just trying to stop the practice of holding players in the minors to gain an extra year of control. Then, it will be interesting to see if they try to backdate things so current players that were held in the minors would gain an extra year so they'd become a free agent sooner.

 

If they simply get rid of the language that allows teams to "manipulate service time" to gain an extra year of service, then it would have future ramifications, but wouldn't hurt nearly as much as it would if their current crop of players became free agents a year sooner.

[TURBO]

 

If this delays the season, than I agree. If the "work stoppage" is December and January, and the season isn't delayed, I doubt that most fans would even notice.

 

 

Yup, that's what I meant, if it happens during the off season with no in-season interruption, no one will care.

[owbc]

I'm willing to lose a full season if the resulting CBA significantly improves the sport.

 

Since that's not going to happen, and both sides are fully aware of the implications of delaying the season, I expect they will agree to some sort of "business as usual" deal in late February.

[homer]

Owners lost a billion dollars in 2020. They might play hardball (pun intended)

[markedman5]

Some optimism

 

[MrTPlush]

PETA is pleading with MLB and fans to drop the term 'bullpen' and instead use their thought of term 'arm barn'. They say the term 'bullpen' devalues talented players.

[homer]

pleading? this is super dumb but not on the level of pleading. Like most things PETA, they throw out a press release and the world goes nuts and PETA gets the attention they wanted in the first place.

 

For Immediate Release:

October 28, 2021

 

Contact:

Moira Colley 202-483-7382

 

New York – As the World Series turns into a pitching duel, PETA is pitching a proposal to the baseball world: Strike out the word “bullpen,” which references the holding area where terrified bulls are kept before slaughter, in favor of a more modern, animal-friendly term. PETA’s suggestion? The arm barn!

 

“Words matter, and baseball ‘bullpens’ devalue talented players and mock the misery of sensitive animals,” says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. “PETA encourages Major League Baseball coaches, announcers, players, and fans to changeup their language and embrace the ‘arm barn’ instead.”

 

PETA notes that cows are hung upside down and their throats are slit in the meat industry, while in rodeos, gentle bulls are tormented into kicking and bucking by being electro-shocked or prodded—all are typically held in a “bullpen” while they await their cruel fate.

[markedman5]

Bob Melvin to Padres

 

[jerichoholicninja]

Bob Melvin to Padres

 

 

Isn't he the current A's manager? How does that work?

[BlazingGunz]

They released him from his contract or just let the Padres assume it. I think the A's are in full cost cutting mode....and he was making $4million.

[SeaBass]

It's certainly odd. How does a team even think to ask another club, "Hey, we realize you just exercised next year's option on your manager but can we just have him instead?"

 

When you talk about tampering how does this not raise all sorts of red flags? Clearly the Padres would have to know if Melvin was even interested in managing for them. Unless the A's suddenly had buyers remorse and made it known to all the other teams their manager was available? Just very strange.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

pleading? this is super dumb but not on the level of pleading. Like most things PETA, they throw out a press release and the world goes nuts and PETA gets the attention they wanted in the first place.

 

For Immediate Release:

October 28, 2021

 

Contact:

Moira Colley 202-483-7382

 

New York – As the World Series turns into a pitching duel, PETA is pitching a proposal to the baseball world: Strike out the word “bullpen,” which references the holding area where terrified bulls are kept before slaughter, in favor of a more modern, animal-friendly term. PETA’s suggestion? The arm barn!

 

“Words matter, and baseball ‘bullpens’ devalue talented players and mock the misery of sensitive animals,” says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. “PETA encourages Major League Baseball coaches, announcers, players, and fans to changeup their language and embrace the ‘arm barn’ instead.”

 

PETA notes that cows are hung upside down and their throats are slit in the meat industry, while in rodeos, gentle bulls are tormented into kicking and bucking by being electro-shocked or prodded—all are typically held in a “bullpen” while they await their cruel fate.

 

Yeah every time they do something like this it is to drive traffic and donors to their website.

[patrickgpe]

They released him from his contract or just let the Padres assume it. I think the A's are in full cost cutting mode....and he was making $4million.

 

he only had 1 year left. Padres asked and received permission to talk to him. I'm sure the Athletics just would have preferred to go cheap and hire a rookie manager. He signed a new 3 year deal. Home run hire for the Padres, and A's fans have to be upset.

[jerichoholicninja]

It's certainly odd. How does a team even think to ask another club, "Hey, we realize you just exercised next year's option on your manager but can we just have him instead?"

 

When you talk about tampering how does this not raise all sorts of red flags? Clearly the Padres would have to know if Melvin was even interested in managing for them. Unless the A's suddenly had buyers remorse and made it known to all the other teams their manager was available? Just very strange.

 

I didn't even think about the tampering side of it although maybe there are no rules for coaches. Every offseason lots of coaches under contract with one team go somewhere else because one of their buddies was just named manager there.

[patrickgpe]

PETA is pleading with MLB and fans to drop the term 'bullpen' and instead use their thought of term 'arm barn'. They say the term 'bullpen' devalues talented players.

2 things come to mind. Isn't there bigger animal rights issues than calling what relievers warm up bullpens and if you are going to come up with a stupid cause, hire a better marketing person to come up with a better replacement name.

[dlk9s]

Remember when they wanted the Packers to change their name to the vegetable "Pickers"?

[CheezWizHed]

PETA is pleading with MLB and fans to drop the term 'bullpen' and instead use their thought of term 'arm barn'. They say the term 'bullpen' devalues talented players.

2 things come to mind. Isn't there bigger animal rights issues than calling what relievers warm up bullpens and if you are going to come up with a stupid cause, hire a better marketing person to come up with a better replacement name.

 

It isn't about either. It is click-bait. Proposing a concept so out of left field (or behind it in this case) that people can't believe how silly it is and click on the link.

[MoreTrife]

https://sports.yahoo.com/the-next-mlb-game-you-watch-will-be-different-the-question-is-how-and-when-183856355.html

 

 

This article is fantastic at discussing the stakes in this off-season CBA and the rule changes being considered.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Would be kind of funny to see Mike Schlidt win Manager of the Year after being fired. Cardinals way baby!

[nate82]

Love the stat or hate it WAR seems to be the new stat that arbitration will be based on.

 

 

MLB Proposes determining arbitration salaries by using WAR

[sveumrules]

Former Brewers reliever Joakim Soria calling it quits after a 15 year MLB career.

 

Since debuting in 2007 Joakim ranks 4th in rWAR (18.6), 5th in fWAR (15.5) & 5th in WPA (+20.74) among all relievers.

 

Pretty nice career for anyone, much less a Rule 5 pick.

[monty57]

Love the stat or hate it WAR seems to be the new stat that arbitration will be based on.

 

 

MLB Proposes determining arbitration salaries by using WAR

 

Maybe it's not perfect, but it's certainly better than wins, saves, and RBIs like the current system uses.

[nate82]

Love the stat or hate it WAR seems to be the new stat that arbitration will be based on.

 

 

MLB Proposes determining arbitration salaries by using WAR

 

Maybe it's not perfect, but it's certainly better than wins, saves, and RBIs like the current system uses.

 

What is unknown about this is how they will determine the dollar amount. They would be using the fWAR so relievers would get screwed by this. But Burnes could possibly get $19m in his firs year of arbitration if this were to be used assuming they are going to use an average of the total fWAR $. Which would be about $14m more than what he would make in the current system.

 

This is assuming they take the full fWAR from his first year until now.

 

Yes the small market teams already agreed to this as this is the 2nd proposal from MLB to the union on how they are going to pay players going forward especially younger players. This is more than likely going to be rejected by the union as players wouldn't be able to hit free agency until they are 29.5 years old which could lock in younger players who may not do as well in the first few years they are in the majors and thus lower their value. There is also concerns of teams manipulating the WAR value. Also relievers are penalized severely in WAR compared to starting pitchers also pitchers who pitch more to contact versus striking players out are also hurt by fWAR.

 

I think there will be some kind of compromise on this either using a different stat for relievers or a combination of different stats. Really they shouldn't be using one stat for everything ideally. Ideally you would want at least 3 or 5 different stats to find a balance. Either way younger players are going to become more expensive and I am wondering if the league has promised more revenue sharing for the smaller market teams.