2021 Misc. MLB News

[jerichoholicninja]

I believe Schildt replaced Matheny midseason and either took them to the postseason or almost did and then he was officially hired. They may have felt at the time that they had to hire him because the team turned around even though they really didn't want to. They had an improbable 17 game win streak that got them a wild card this year otherwise they were pretty much dead all year.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I guess I'm not overly surprised. The Cards are many things, but poorly run is not one of those things, and without a deep playoff run they were probably unmoved by what was really mediocre performance bailed out by a ridiculous streak at the end.

[bjkrautk]

The Cardinals down the stretch were relentlessly aggressive at taking extra bases and putting pressure on the opposing pitcher. It was exciting baseball, except the part about them being the Cardinals & the division not being entirely wrapped up.

 

Was there an issue with pitching / bullpen use, or is the problem all the months it took before their run to the WC game? Happy to say I don’t get this move.

[Joseph Zarr]

Another unlikeable Cardinal figurehead sent packing. I wonder what glorious unlikeable figurehead they will place atop their pedestal this go-around.

[tmwiese55]

Yea I was surprised by it as well. He seemed to fit right in line with the cardinal way. Gets me thinking though, Yadi retires after 2022. How long until he's manager for them? Maybe a year or two off then comes in as a coach of some kind then manager within 6 years?

[dlk9s]

I am never one for reading more into something that what it appears, but reading this:

 

Cardinals president of baseball operations John Mozeliak cited "philosophical differences" to explain Shildt's dismissal. He declined to expand on those differences, saying the move was "something that popped up recently."

 

Makes me think that the "philosophical differences" weren't about on-field play, particularly because it "popped up recently."

 

The only two things I can think of right now are him not wanting to play certain players that the front office wanted him to play or something anti-vax related.

[jerichoholicninja]

Maybe he's got some emails that just came to light. Or some sort of harassment allegations.

[AKCheesehead]

A good friend of mine is a Cardinals fan (I DO hold that against him, but we're still friends) and he was calling for a change of manager. He cited issues with giving too many opportunities to Carpenter, Reyes, Dejong and Martinez to underperform, poor pre-game and in-game planning. I guess I just hope whoever they hire next is even worse.

[PinaMadness]

Another unlikeable Cardinal figurehead sent packing. I wonder what glorious unlikeable figurehead they will place atop their pedestal this go-around.

Who's on the short list?

[BruisedCrew]

Another unlikeable Cardinal figurehead sent packing. I wonder what glorious unlikeable figurehead they will place atop their pedestal this go-around.

Who's on the short list?

 

Maybe they have a deal to bring LaRussa back.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Pujols, maybe?

 

Chris Carpenter, probably...

 

Alex Jones, definitely

[Underachiever]

I don't know how to embed a tweet. Jeff Jones tweeted:

 

"Listening to Mozeliak on the Zoom and from my own reporting being around the club as much as I have, I would be very surprised if Stubby Clapp wasn’t the leading candidate to take over as #stlcards manager."

 

Stubby? Clapp?

 

Just checked out his bio. Cardinal through and through. 11 years in the organization as a player, and has been a AAA manager and first-base coach with the major league team.

[jerichoholicninja]

I believe that Cardinal fans have been pining for the Clapp since the Matheny days. Serious statement. Pun intended.

[dlk9s]

I think Stubby Clapp was the third baseman for the Rockford Trainmen from 1902 to 1908. He got his nickname after he survived a tragic accident at the lye factory in the offseason which left him with two fingers on his right hand and just a thumb on his left. He still hit .317 with one homer the following season, though. The nickname "Three Finger," the obvious choice, was already taken.

[PinaMadness]

I think Stubby Clapp was the third baseman for the Rockford Trainmen from 1902 to 1908. He got his nickname after he survived a tragic accident at the lye factory in the offseason which left him with two fingers on his right hand and just a thumb on his left. He still hit .317 with one homer the following season, though. The nickname "Three Finger," the obvious choice, was already taken.

Sounds like Uecker's grandfather.

[adambr2]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/details-on-the-cardinals-firing-of-mike-shildt.html

 

Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch adds another possible factor to the list, perhaps based around how “The Cardinal Way” has long been a backbone of the organization’s practices. “Internally, there had been concern about the absence and ongoing leak of Cardinals-rooted presences,” Goold writes, with some internal dismay over what one source described as “losing tradition” to other clubs.

 

 

What. The heck. Does this even mean.

[DuWayne Steurer]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/details-on-the-cardinals-firing-of-mike-shildt.html

 

Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch adds another possible factor to the list, perhaps based around how “The Cardinal Way” has long been a backbone of the organization’s practices. “Internally, there had been concern about the absence and ongoing leak of Cardinals-rooted presences,” Goold writes, with some internal dismay over what one source described as “losing tradition” to other clubs.

 

 

What. The heck. Does this even mean.

 

 

It means that Schildt doesn't have enough testosterone and old-school baseball tough guy in his veins for the Cardinals. Chris Carpenter could probably explain it better than I could.

 

This. This is why the Cardinals are a detestable organization.

[PinaMadness]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/10/details-on-the-cardinals-firing-of-mike-shildt.html

 

Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch adds another possible factor to the list, perhaps based around how “The Cardinal Way” has long been a backbone of the organization’s practices. “Internally, there had been concern about the absence and ongoing leak of Cardinals-rooted presences,” Goold writes, with some internal dismay over what one source described as “losing tradition” to other clubs.

 

 

What. The heck. Does this even mean.

 

 

It means that Schildt doesn't have enough testosterone and old-school baseball tough guy in his veins for the Cardinals. Chris Carpenter could probably explain it better than I could.

 

This. This is why the Cardinals are a detestable organization.

But not to his kids.

[jerichoholicninja]

There's so many confusing statements from the Cardinals makes you think it's probably not baseball-related.

[markedman5]

Looks like Cards have their man

 

[PinaMadness]

Keeping it in house so Marmol must be a real jag.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Looks like Cards have their man

 

 

Second verse, same as the first ...

[MrTPlush]

Really young guy...seems like they are trying to be like a fellow divisional foe.

[markedman5]

collective bargaining trouble looms

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-almost-certain-to-have-first-work-stoppage-in-26-years-per-report/

[folly412]

Looks like Cards have their man

 

 

Someone indoctrinated in The Cardinal Way™ since 2007 and knows nothing else. Already sounds insufferable.