Filling Out the Roster

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

MA’s idea of value is to get a difference maker at a 7-figure salary, and that is extremely unlikely. So best case, the jury is still out on this owner and his commitment to winning (although some would say that last year’s off-season gave us all the evidence we needed).

 

Seriously? The ink is barely dry on Yelich's $215 million extension.

[DR28]

MA’s idea of value is to get a difference maker at a 7-figure salary, and that is extremely unlikely. So best case, the jury is still out on this owner and his commitment to winning (although some would say that last year’s off-season gave us all the evidence we needed).

 

Seriously? The ink is barely dry on Yelich's $215 million extension.

 

Yep, what big time additions has he signed off on in the last 2 years? Yelich can't do this alone.

 

If he shells out the money for Turner, I'll shut up.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

MA’s idea of value is to get a difference maker at a 7-figure salary, and that is extremely unlikely. So best case, the jury is still out on this owner and his commitment to winning (although some would say that last year’s off-season gave us all the evidence we needed).

 

Seriously? The ink is barely dry on Yelich's $215 million extension.

 

Yep, what big time additions has he signed off on in the last 2 years? Yelich can't do this alone.

 

If he shells out the money for Turner, I'll shut up.

 

Garcia is making $10+ million. So financially, that is a pretty big addition, even if he hasn't lived up to that deal so far.

 

Of course, while they were short-term deals, Moustakas and Grandal the year before would be considered big free agent acquisitions too.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Yelich, García, Braun (Twice), Cain, Suppan, Garza, Grandal, moose, rameriez, Weeks, Sheets, Gange, fielder, Cameron, Grienke, Hart, Loshe, Hill. And a bunch more in the $7-9mil range.

 

All those players were given $10 mil for a season under Mark A. Ownership. Whether it was the best use of funds is another conversation. But this constant rhetoric that he is “cheap” is old. Buds ownership was cheap, not Mark A. Look past the player salaries and see what he invests back to the overall experience. He’s a phenomenal owner.

[Jopal78]

Yelich, García, Braun (Twice), Cain, Suppan, Garza, Grandal, moose, rameriez, Weeks, Sheets, Gange, fielder, Cameron, Grienke, Hart, Loshe, Hill. And a bunch more in the $7-9mil range.

 

All those players were given $10 mil for a season under Mark A. Ownership. Whether it was the best use of funds is another conversation. But this constant rhetoric that he is “cheap” is old. Buds ownership was cheap, not Mark A. Look past the player salaries and see what he invests back to the overall experience. He’s a phenomenal owner.

 

The problem is 10 million per season in today's MLB isn't that much. Role players like Avisail Garcia, James McCann, and back of the rotation starters like Drew Smyly are now getting ten million per year.

[DR28]

Yelich, García, Braun (Twice), Cain, Suppan, Garza, Grandal, moose, rameriez, Weeks, Sheets, Gange, fielder, Cameron, Grienke, Hart, Loshe, Hill. And a bunch more in the $7-9mil range.

 

All those players were given $10 mil for a season under Mark A. Ownership. Whether it was the best use of funds is another conversation. But this constant rhetoric that he is “cheap” is old. Buds ownership was cheap, not Mark A. Look past the player salaries and see what he invests back to the overall experience. He’s a phenomenal owner.

 

The problem is 10 million per season in today's MLB isn't that much. Role players like Avisail Garcia, James McCann, and back of the rotation starters like Drew Smyly are now getting ten million per year.

 

Thank you!

 

When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season for player like Semien or Turner, then we'll talk about Mark not being cheap... We can be interested in these big FAs all we want, until we hand out that kind of money to a FA then I'll continue to say that.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Yelich, García, Braun (Twice), Cain, Suppan, Garza, Grandal, moose, rameriez, Weeks, Sheets, Gange, fielder, Cameron, Grienke, Hart, Loshe, Hill. And a bunch more in the $7-9mil range.

 

All those players were given $10 mil for a season under Mark A. Ownership. Whether it was the best use of funds is another conversation. But this constant rhetoric that he is “cheap” is old. Buds ownership was cheap, not Mark A. Look past the player salaries and see what he invests back to the overall experience. He’s a phenomenal owner.

 

The problem is 10 million per season in today's MLB isn't that much. Role players like Avisail Garcia, James McCann, and back of the rotation starters like Drew Smyly are now getting ten million per year.

 

Thank you!

 

When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season for player like Semien or Turner, then we'll talk about Mark not being cheap... We can be interested in these big FAs all we want, until we hand out that kind of money to a FA then I'll stop.

 

First it's "MA’s idea of value is to get a difference maker at a 7-figure salary", and now it's "When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season". Methinks you are frustrated, and now moving the goalposts to suit a narrative that has been proven incorrect.

 

I get the frustration. I'd like to see them make some quality moves before Spring Training kicks off as well. But you are simply making this situation something that it isn't.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Yelich, García, Braun (Twice), Cain, Suppan, Garza, Grandal, moose, rameriez, Weeks, Sheets, Gange, fielder, Cameron, Grienke, Hart, Loshe, Hill. And a bunch more in the $7-9mil range.

 

All those players were given $10 mil for a season under Mark A. Ownership. Whether it was the best use of funds is another conversation. But this constant rhetoric that he is “cheap” is old. Buds ownership was cheap, not Mark A. Look past the player salaries and see what he invests back to the overall experience. He’s a phenomenal owner.

 

The problem is 10 million per season in today's MLB isn't that much. Role players like Avisail Garcia, James McCann, and back of the rotation starters like Drew Smyly are now getting ten million per year.

 

Thank you!

 

When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season for player like Semien or Turner, then we'll talk about Mark not being cheap... We can be interested in these big FAs all we want, until we hand out that kind of money to a FA then I'll continue to say that.

 

This is an unfair comparison. Our owner, with the resources/revenue, has done a very good job using capitol. Mark’s net worth is barely at $700 mil. Which is low by professional sports owner standards.

 

He will never be the one spending like the Nats, Yanks, Dodgers, etc. so to expect that is unrealistic and you’re setting yourself up for disappointment. Like Billy Beane says “it’s and unfair game”. But Marks ownership has brought us 5 playoff app in 15 years, 2 NL Champ series. Of course I’d love to win a World Series, but I’ll take this Owner over many in MLB.

[brewmann04]

I always have said Mark will spend when he needs to. But can see the fans frustrated when FA comes around but have to understand we are NY orLa

[brewerfan82]

When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season for player like Semien or Turner, then we'll talk about Mark not being cheap... We can be interested in these big FAs all we want, until we hand out that kind of money to a FA then I'll continue to say that.

 

2020 - Extends Yelich for 7 yrs, $188.5M

2019 - Signs Grandal for $18.25M (w/ buyout)

2018 - Signs Cain for 5 yrs, $80M

2011 - Extends Braun for 5 yrs, $105M

 

Also, I'm not sure you should be happy if they paid $18-20M for a player like Semien of Turner right now...

[DR28]

When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season for player like Semien or Turner, then we'll talk about Mark not being cheap... We can be interested in these big FAs all we want, until we hand out that kind of money to a FA then I'll continue to say that.

 

2020 - Extends Yelich for 7 yrs, $188.5M

2019 - Signs Grandal for $18.25M (w/ buyout)

2018 - Signs Cain for 5 yrs, $80M

2011 - Extends Braun for 5 yrs, $105M

 

Also, I'm not sure you should be happy if they paid $18-20M for a player like Semien of Turner right now...

 

I will gladly take Justin Turner on this team... Have you seen the things we've trotted out to 3B recently?

 

Cain

Yelich

Turner

Hiura

 

Yep I'm good with that.

[brewerfan82]

I'd love to have Turner, just not necessarily at $18-20M (which is a bit more than people are expecting). And I would have really hated spending $18-20M on Semien. It seems like you chose that range just to help prove MA hasn't signed off on as many players as he has, not because that's how much it would cost to improve the team.

[DR28]

I'd love to have Turner, just not necessarily at $18-20M (which is a bit more than people are expecting). And I would have really hated spending $18-20M on Semien. It seems like you chose that range just to help prove MA hasn't signed off on as many players as he has, not because that's how much it would cost to improve the team.

 

Braun and Yelich were extensions... Grandal is the only FA close to $20 mil.

[brewerfan82]

Exactly my point, lol. So spending money on Braun, Yelich, Cain, Moustakas, A-Ram, etc. don't count arbitrarily in your book.

[Madhawk23]

When we shell out $18-$20 mil a season for player like Semien or Turner, then we'll talk about Mark not being cheap... We can be interested in these big FAs all we want, until we hand out that kind of money to a FA then I'll continue to say that.

 

2020 - Extends Yelich for 7 yrs, $188.5M

2019 - Signs Grandal for $18.25M (w/ buyout)

2018 - Signs Cain for 5 yrs, $80M

2011 - Extends Braun for 5 yrs, $105M

 

Also, I'm not sure you should be happy if they paid $18-20M for a player like Semien of Turner right now...

 

I will gladly take Justin Turner on this team... Have you seen the things we've trotted out to 3B recently?

 

Cain

Yelich

Turner

Hiura

 

Yep I'm good with that.

 

While I would hate to see us overpay for JT, I'm really hoping that we can find a way to make this work with him - ideally on a 2 year deal. I'm sure we'll have to overpay to get him out of LA, but he is clearly the best 3B option out on the market right now, and I think we can all agree that we have a huge hole at that position right now. Please find a way to make this work David and Mark! Then, maybe we can still find a way to sign someone like CJ Cron to man 1B for us on a 1-year deal?

[CheeseheadInQC]

I'd love to have Turner, just not necessarily at $18-20M (which is a bit more than people are expecting). And I would have really hated spending $18-20M on Semien. It seems like you chose that range just to help prove MA hasn't signed off on as many players as he has, not because that's how much it would cost to improve the team.

 

Braun and Yelich were extensions... Grandal is the only FA close to $20 mil.

 

I might have missed one, but I believe from this offseason and the previous two only 10 players have changed teams for contracts averaging at least $20 million (or 11 if you count Donaldson twice). So it isn't like the Brewers are alone in this regard.

[josh]

“The Brewers are cheap” is the absolute worst take. It adds no insight and creates a hostile, combative vibe in every thread it infects around here.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Adam Frazier on the block, according to Heyman.

 

 

I'm always been a Frazier fan. He's a decent defender at multiple positions. Doesn't have huge power, but his left-handed stick would likely play up at AmFam Field. Has played extensively at 2B and in the OF, with very limited time at 3B and SS. I can't imagine the trade cost would be very high. He seems like the type of player Stearns would covet. Plus he's always destroyed Brewer pitching for some reason, so I'd rather he be playing on the good guys' side.

[Madhawk23]

Adam Frazier on the block, according to Heyman.

 

 

I'm always been a Frazier fan. He's a decent defender at multiple positions. Doesn't have huge power, but his left-handed stick would likely play up at AmFam Field. Has played extensively at 2B and in the OF, with very limited time at 3B and SS. I can't imagine the trade cost would be very high. He seems like the type of player Stearns would covet. Plus he's always destroyed Brewer pitching for some reason, so I'd rather he be playing on the good guys' side.

 

First of all - I think I'll just rejoice if we get Frazier out of the NL Central, because that guy seems to kill us each and every year - at least a couple of times during the season.

 

Not sure though if he'd make much sense for us though to make a trade. His offensive numbers really only play at 2B and if we don't have the DH anymore to get Hiura AB's, then I'm just not sure where we'd play Frazier? I think we'd need someone with a bit more power to play 3B for us.

[Eye Black]

Adam Frazier on the block, according to Heyman.

 

 

I'm always been a Frazier fan. He's a decent defender at multiple positions. Doesn't have huge power, but his left-handed stick would likely play up at AmFam Field. Has played extensively at 2B and in the OF, with very limited time at 3B and SS. I can't imagine the trade cost would be very high. He seems like the type of player Stearns would covet. Plus he's always destroyed Brewer pitching for some reason, so I'd rather he be playing on the good guys' side.

College teammate of Brandon Woodruff. Frazier has been solid against RHP throughout his career. Wouldn’t be a bad pickup if they can figure out how he’d fit into the lineup.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Adam Frazier on the block, according to Heyman.

 

 

I'm always been a Frazier fan. He's a decent defender at multiple positions. Doesn't have huge power, but his left-handed stick would likely play up at AmFam Field. Has played extensively at 2B and in the OF, with very limited time at 3B and SS. I can't imagine the trade cost would be very high. He seems like the type of player Stearns would covet. Plus he's always destroyed Brewer pitching for some reason, so I'd rather he be playing on the good guys' side.

 

First of all - I think I'll just rejoice if we get Frazier out of the NL Central, because that guy seems to kill us each and every year - at least a couple of times during the season.

 

Not sure though if he'd make much sense for us though to make a trade. His offensive numbers really only play at 2B and if we don't have the DH anymore to get Hiura AB's, then I'm just not sure where we'd play Frazier? I think we'd need someone with a bit more power to play 3B for us.

 

I was always one who thought that you needed to get 30 HR power from the 3B position, but I don't necessarily believe that is the case any longer. The Brewers stand to get significant power numbers from Yelich and Hiura, and also Garcia and Narvaez should they hopefully rebound. Whoever ends up playing 1B, should it be Vogelbach or a signing, will likely be a power threat as well. The only nominal starters who are non regular power threats are Cain and Arcia/Urias. I think this lineup could very easily incorporate another player who focuses more on situational hitting and getting on base. If Frazier could play a passable 3B, I don't think I'd have much issue with him seeing time there.

[wntrtxn21]

Adam Frazier on the block, according to Heyman.

 

 

I'm always been a Frazier fan. He's a decent defender at multiple positions. Doesn't have huge power, but his left-handed stick would likely play up at AmFam Field. Has played extensively at 2B and in the OF, with very limited time at 3B and SS. I can't imagine the trade cost would be very high. He seems like the type of player Stearns would covet. Plus he's always destroyed Brewer pitching for some reason, so I'd rather he be playing on the good guys' side.

College teammate of Brandon Woodruff. Frazier has been solid against RHP throughout his career. Wouldn’t be a bad pickup if they can figure out how he’d fit into the lineup.

 

IMO I'd rather see A. Cabrera than Frazier. Frazier has played exactly one game at 3B since 2017. He is arby eligible and already making $4.3M. He would cost something in prospects to trade for, where Cabrera costs nothing and probably could be had for less money. Neither is a permanent solution, but affordable options.

[pacopete4]

Only a matter of when now. Not if, but when. Big things coming our way!

[DR28]

Only a matter of when now. Not if, but when. Big things coming our way!

 

You know something we don't?

[wibadgers23]

Only a matter of when now. Not if, but when. Big things coming our way!

 

Sounds like you know something?