Random thoughts that are pointless and too dumb to say anywhere else thread: 2021

[DHonks]

In my district they pushed Elementary to 8:30 start and 3:40 end time. Works for me, but our days used to be 8:00 to 3:07 and the students did much better. Starting late and ending late for elementary is just silly.

 

Our high school is 7:30ish to 2:50ish.

 

Studies show high school should start later. Students come to school much better rested. As a coach of two daylight dependent sports, I don’t buy the sports argument. In Arizona we can’t start later because the community would miss out on teens working at noon.

[owbc]

That’s ridiculous, I’m still in bed some days at 7:30 and I manage to get my kid to daycare and start work by 8:45-9.

 

I just looked it up at the high school here (Seattle) starts at 8:45. I would have been mad if it was earlier than 8:30.

[stoutdude04]

In my district they pushed Elementary to 8:30 start and 3:40 end time. Works for me, but our days used to be 8:00 to 3:07 and the students did much better. Starting late and ending late for elementary is just silly.

 

Our high school is 7:30ish to 2:50ish.

 

Studies show high school should start later. Students come to school much better rested. As a coach of two daylight dependent sports, I don’t buy the sports argument. In Arizona we can’t start later because the community would miss out on teens working at noon.

 

For High School this makes sense. Elementary students are ready to go earlier, so I wish we started earlier.

[CheezWizHed]

That’s ridiculous, I’m still in bed some days at 7:30 and I manage to get my kid to daycare and start work by 8:45-9.

 

I just looked it up at the high school here (Seattle) starts at 8:45. I would have been mad if it was earlier than 8:30.

 

I've noticed that different time zones do things at different times. For example, I noticed that in all three of my Central Time zone based jobs, most people start work at 8AM. But for the people I've worked with in Detroit (GM, Ford, etc.) often started at 9AM. I'm assuming at least part of that is because TV shows run at the same time in those timezones (news at 10PM central/11PM eastern), but maybe there are other reasons local areas seem to trend differently like that.

[owbc]

That’s ridiculous, I’m still in bed some days at 7:30 and I manage to get my kid to daycare and start work by 8:45-9.

 

I just looked it up at the high school here (Seattle) starts at 8:45. I would have been mad if it was earlier than 8:30.

 

I've noticed that different time zones do things at different times. For example, I noticed that in all three of my Central Time zone based jobs, most people start work at 8AM. But for the people I've worked with in Detroit (GM, Ford, etc.) often started at 9AM. I'm assuming at least part of that is because TV shows run at the same time in those timezones (news at 10PM central/11PM eastern), but maybe there are other reasons local areas seem to trend differently like that.

 

Definitely, in my experience the Midwest runs an hour earlier than the rest of the country. I noticed it when I briefly lived on the east coast. On the west coast it varies...some people have to get up early if their company has offices on the east coast. But generally the work culture of the Pacific NW is way more laid back, I think it's more accurate to say that people start work later and leave work earlier than elsewhere

[MrTPlush]

That’s ridiculous, I’m still in bed some days at 7:30 and I manage to get my kid to daycare and start work by 8:45-9.

 

I just looked it up at the high school here (Seattle) starts at 8:45. I would have been mad if it was earlier than 8:30.

 

I've noticed that different time zones do things at different times. For example, I noticed that in all three of my Central Time zone based jobs, most people start work at 8AM. But for the people I've worked with in Detroit (GM, Ford, etc.) often started at 9AM. I'm assuming at least part of that is because TV shows run at the same time in those timezones (news at 10PM central/11PM eastern), but maybe there are other reasons local areas seem to trend differently like that.

 

Definitely, in my experience the Midwest runs an hour earlier than the rest of the country. I noticed it when I briefly lived on the east coast. On the west coast it varies...some people have to get up early if their company has offices on the east coast. But generally the work culture of the Pacific NW is way more laid back, I think it's more accurate to say that people start work later and leave work earlier than elsewhere

 

I noticed it because of the common phrase (9-5). I thought to myself, who starts at 9? Doesn't everyone start at 8?

[CheezWizHed]

At one point in my career, I was managing a team of software engineers in Detroit, so I travelled there to meet everyone. I showed up at 8AM and the office was nearly empty (just a few people). Then people started showing up at 9AM. Felt weird, but seemed pretty common.

[nodakfan17]

To all the Teachers on BF:

 

My son just started 4K. I’d like to get his teacher a small holiday gift. What’s the most I can spend without raising questions about impropriety? Is a $20 Target gift card acceptable? Are there gifts you like? How about any gifts you’d rather not receive? I’m just trying to avoid an awkward situation while, at the same time, showing my appreciation for a very kind teacher.

 

Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays.

-Nodakfan

[TURBO]

A $20 gift card is not over the top, but still very generous...

 

$10-$20 is great!

 

Myself, I love the food/restaurant gift cards, Subway, McDonalds, Chipotle, etc...

[jerichoholicninja]

Has giving teachers gifts always been a thing? I don't remember my parents ever doing it when I was a kid or even hearing about it from other kids. My son's first year of preschool a couple years ago my wife asked me what we should get his teacher and I was totally confused as to why we would give her anything.

[MrTPlush]

My mom always did it for us up to like 4th grade or something. I recall some kids did it, but it probably wasn't a ton...especially after pre school and K.

[AKCheesehead]

Nodakfan if you’re going the gift card route you can’t go wrong with kwik trip especially. Everyone loves free fuel.

[TURBO]

Has giving teachers gifts always been a thing? I don't remember my parents ever doing it when I was a kid or even hearing about it from other kids. My son's first year of preschool a couple years ago my wife asked me what we should get his teacher and I was totally confused as to why we would give her anything.

 

Yeah, teachers don't deserve anything extra for dealing with the failures of parenthood on a daily basis...lol

 

Gifts for teachers are never required or expected, but it's always nice to know that what you do for people's kids is appreciated. Even a nice note is just as good as a physical gift.

[GAME05]

Yeah, teachers don't deserve anything extra for dealing with the failures of parenthood on a daily basis...lol

 

 

That's what I do for a living, too, but I'd be fired if I accepted a tip.

[stoutdude04]

First and foremost - any gift I have ever gotten I have appreciated. A few things I have gotten over the years: hand lotion, candles, a pencil sharpener, a brewers hat, gift cards to Kwik Trip/food places, beef jerky, hot cocoa/mountain dew, and a Drink Wisconsinably shirt with beer chips(ha). I also enjoy gifts that the kids make for me, whether that is a card or a drawing or something like that. It's just nice to know that you are appreciated.

 

We got my son and daughter's day care teacher little goodie bags with a few candies and a gift card.

[CheezWizHed]

Yeah, teachers don't deserve anything extra for dealing with the failures of parenthood on a daily basis...lol

 

 

That's what I do for a living, too, but I'd be fired if I accepted a tip.

 

[sarcasm]I keep waiting for my kid's teachers to give me a gift for blessing them with my kids! [/sarcasm]

[homer]

To all the Teachers on BF:

 

My son just started 4K. I’d like to get his teacher a small holiday gift. What’s the most I can spend without raising questions about impropriety? Is a $20 Target gift card acceptable? Are there gifts you like? How about any gifts you’d rather not receive? I’m just trying to avoid an awkward situation while, at the same time, showing my appreciation for a very kind teacher.

 

Thanks in advance and Happy Holidays.

-Nodakfan

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

Just had this teacher gift conversation with my wife, too. I think the gift giving does slowly fade away as elementary school gives way to middle school - As a parent one issue that can be difficult is where to draw the line on which people get gifts, particularly once you get into the realm of day cares, before/after school care, teacher paras, etc.

 

we've currently got 3 kids in elementary school so it's not like just picking up a gift card or two from Starbucks is enough to cover close to double digit people, and it's actually much lower than years where we had to add on before/after school care and preschool/daycare staff when kids were younger. We're very appreciative and glad to have means to make sure they all know we're thinking of them at the holidays, but to me things have changed alot in the last decade -not just for teachers, seems like holiday commercialism has really exploded in effort to push more gifts for many more folks tied to various aspects of our day to days). Particularly compared to when I was in school and the only teacher gifts given out were reminders they all got 3 month paid vacations every summer.

[TURBO]

Just had this teacher gift conversation with my wife, too. I think the gift giving does slowly fade away as elementary school gives way to middle school - As a parent one issue that can be difficult is where to draw the line on which people get gifts, particularly once you get into the realm of day cares, before/after school care, teacher paras, etc.

 

we've currently got 3 kids in elementary school so it's not like just picking up a gift card or two from Starbucks is enough to cover close to double digit people, and it's actually much lower than years where we had to add on before/after school care and preschool/daycare staff when kids were younger. We're very appreciative and glad to have means to make sure they all know we're thinking of them at the holidays, but to me things have changed alot in the last decade -not just for teachers, seems like holiday commercialism has really exploded in effort to push more gifts for many more folks tied to various aspects of our day to days). Particularly compared to when I was in school and the only teacher gifts given out were reminders they all got 3 month paid vacations every summer.

 

Teachers have NEVER gotten 3 months of summer vacation paid. Summer vacation in not contracted. Teachers do not get summer vacation paid, period.

 

That is a fallacy.

[CheezWizHed]

Turbo, I realize it was probably a sore spot, but he did put the 3 months vacation in blue. Blue=sarcasm...

[TURBO]

Turbo, I realize it was probably a sore spot, but he did put the 3 months vacation in blue. Blue=sarcasm...

 

true, my bad, I ignored that.

 

 

There truly are people who think teachers get paid summer vacation though, a lot of people...

[FVBrewerFan]

I doubt many people think that, but it's a technicality anyhow. So teachers don't get paid for a 3 month vacation, but they do get paid 9 months for a full time job. I'm not sure why teachers always seem to hide from that, I would be bragging about it.

 

As for teacher gifts, we always gave gift cards. Only because everyone else did, and it was the thing to do. I never understood why we were giving gifts to professionals.

[nodakfan17]

As for teacher gifts, we always gave gift cards. Only because everyone else did, and it was the thing to do. I never understood why we were giving gifts to professionals.

I have a few direct reports at work and I usually get them a bottle of Bailey’s for Christmas. True, they’re compensated fairly well for the area in which we live, but it’s a small gesture to show my appreciation and I think those go a long way.

[TURBO]

I doubt many people think that, but it's a technicality anyhow. So teachers don't get paid for a 3 month vacation, but they do get paid 9 months for a full time job. I'm not sure why teachers always seem to hide from that, I would be bragging about it.

 

There are a LOT of people that do in fact think that teachers get a paid 3 month summer vacation. That's a fact.

 

Hide from what? Hide that we get paid for 9 months of work? Why would anyone hide from that? Makes no sense.

 

 

As for teacher gifts, we always gave gift cards. Only because everyone else did, and it was the thing to do. I never understood why we were giving gifts to professionals.

 

That is/was a choice you make. Giving the gift is a showing of appreciation, if you don't appreciate your kids teachers, by all means, give them nothing. It isn't a requirement.

[MrTPlush]

Teachers sure like to let everyone know their 3 month vacation isn't paid, but when they complain about their salary they never seem to mention how they are getting paid that much for only 9 months of work. They just want to compare their 9 month salary to other people's 12 month salary.