Game 11: Bears @ Packers - Sunday, Nov 29th, 7:20PM CT

[PinaMadness]

Preston doing some great things for a DB.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I just feel like this team is what it is and I've seen this show before. They're going to win this game and pound another crappy squad, but even giving up that TD at the end of the half is concerning. There are still spots in this game that have you scratching your head.

 

It's not that I'm disappointed how this specific game is going. I just don't see this as a team that can take out the Chiefs or Saints. I know they beat the Saints. I don't think they could beat them now.

 

Is my attitude the result of a team that's always good? Yes, absolutely. But. I also think there's a legitimacy to the frustration of watching them crush crappy teams and just never beat the top ones.

 

Beat Tennessee and serve me crow.

 

Way too much hand-wringing about January, here in November. Just take care of the task at hand. You don't have to beat KC or NO today. Worry about January in January. NFL teams look completely different from month to month. While I would like to see a scheme that is capable of winning against another certain type of scheme, I have no interest in trying to be paper champions against every other team in the league after game #11.

 

I appreciate this and I'm usually the person saying it, I just would really like to see the defense undergo some sort of in-season metamorphosis and I just haven't seen it.

[adambr2]

What a chicken crap call. You got a good field position gift, you're only 20-25 yards from a reasonably possible FG attempt. Just throw it downfield and see what happens. It's not like they've been able to stop you all night.

 

Nah, It was the right call. No reason to give Bears more chance of momentum via a sack-TO. I'd say I would have had Jones in the game. It was pretty obvious with Williams a run being called. I'd have run with Jones and if he broke one for 14 or more yards you call TO and take a shot. They started before the 30yd line

 

How does a sack change the momentum? It's literally the exact same score going into half. And they did not start before the 30 yard line. The line of scrimmage was the 35.

[lcbj68c]

I know some of you guys think I’m nuts for bringing up the coin toss streak, but losing the coin toss today was like a turnover. And the same thing happened a few weeks ago in Minnesota. 8 in a row!

 

Yes, the impact is so minimal that you are a bit nuts. So many variables to the end of the half that it doesn't nearly play out to the point of mattering. Packers scored on their first drive of the half and the Bears punted. I'm not sure how that is like a turnover.

[PinaMadness]

Whatever you think of the coin tosses, there's a reason teams defer to the second half almost all the time.

[adambr2]

I know some of you guys think I’m nuts for bringing up the coin toss streak, but losing the coin toss today was like a turnover. And the same thing happened a few weeks ago in Minnesota. 8 in a row!

 

How was it like a turnover? Again, both teams have the same amount of opportunity throughout the course of an entire game.

 

The odds of losing 8 coin tosses in a row are 1 in 256. Not good, but not a completely unheard of anomaly. And that's ignoring the OT coin toss last week, because we won that one.

 

These holding penalties are way, way more of turnovers than losing the opening coin toss is.

[adambr2]

Whatever you think of the coin tosses, there's a reason teams defer to the second half almost all the time.

 

They used to do the exact opposite 10-15 years ago. There's been a lot of shift in that. Could be nothing more than herd mentality.

[lcbj68c]

Whatever you think of the coin tosses, there's a reason teams defer to the second half almost all the time.

Not denying there isn't strategy or even a disadvantage if the game flow doesn't go your way, but calling it a turnover is a bit much.

[nodakfan17]

I know some of you guys think I’m nuts for bringing up the coin toss streak, but losing the coin toss today was like a turnover. And the same thing happened a few weeks ago in Minnesota. 8 in a row!

 

Yes, the impact is so minimal that you are a bit nuts. So many variables to the end of the half that it doesn't nearly play out to the point of mattering. Packers scored on their first drive of the half and the Bears punted. I'm not sure how that is like a turnover.

The Bears basically had back-to-back possessions (with only one Packer snap in between).

[homer]

I hope this is over but I fear it isn't.

 

I underestimated Mitch's ability to suck.

[worm81]

Not hard picks, but nice to see Savage actually catch the ball twice. So many DBs drop everything.

[lcbj68c]

I get that there is a monitor in the endzone, but couldn't there be a more creative way for the defense to celebrate turnovers?

[brewcrewdue80]

What a chicken crap call. You got a good field position gift, you're only 20-25 yards from a reasonably possible FG attempt. Just throw it downfield and see what happens. It's not like they've been able to stop you all night.

 

Nah, It was the right call. No reason to give Bears more chance of momentum via a sack-TO. I'd say I would have had Jones in the game. It was pretty obvious with Williams a run being called. I'd have run with Jones and if he broke one for 14 or more yards you call TO and take a shot. They started before the 30yd line

 

How does a sack change the momentum? It's literally the exact same score going into half. And they did not start before the 30 yard line. The line of scrimmage was the 35.

 

A sack is a hit on Rodgers. Could create a fumble or injury.

 

Well so much for Trubisky's great week in practice. I was wrong to feel uncomfortable. Let's see some first downs running the ball.

[nodakfan17]

Whatever you think of the coin tosses, there's a reason teams defer to the second half almost all the time.

Thank you! It was highly significant against Minnesota when there were only 4 possessions in the first half and the Vikings scored the last TD of the first half and then received th ball in the second half.

[adambr2]

I know some of you guys think I’m nuts for bringing up the coin toss streak, but losing the coin toss today was like a turnover. And the same thing happened a few weeks ago in Minnesota. 8 in a row!

 

Yes, the impact is so minimal that you are a bit nuts. So many variables to the end of the half that it doesn't nearly play out to the point of mattering. Packers scored on their first drive of the half and the Bears punted. I'm not sure how that is like a turnover.

The Bears basically had back-to-back possessions (with only one Packer snap in between).

 

So if the Packers have the ball to end the game is that like a turnover too?

 

Somebody is going to start the half with the ball. Somebody is going to end the half with the ball. We also could have taken a shot, gained 30 yards and kicked a FG and your point would be moot. It's just a crazy stretch to call it a turnover.

[lcbj68c]

I know some of you guys think I’m nuts for bringing up the coin toss streak, but losing the coin toss today was like a turnover. And the same thing happened a few weeks ago in Minnesota. 8 in a row!

 

Yes, the impact is so minimal that you are a bit nuts. So many variables to the end of the half that it doesn't nearly play out to the point of mattering. Packers scored on their first drive of the half and the Bears punted. I'm not sure how that is like a turnover.

The Bears basically had back-to-back possessions (with only one Packer snap in between).

 

Sometimes the game flow ends up that way. The outcome needs to be weighed first, no? The Packers got a TD on their first drive and the Bears got a TD on their two drives sandwiched around the half.

[adambr2]

Whatever you think of the coin tosses, there's a reason teams defer to the second half almost all the time.

Thank you! It was highly significant against Minnesota when there were only 4 possessions in the first half and the Vikings scored the last TD of the first half and then received th ball in the second half.

 

Deferring is probably very slightly better. I don't disagree. It gives you a chance on offense first after second half adjustments. Some would argue that receiving is better because the first team to score a TD wins about 66% of the time.

 

Harping on it is pointless though, a coin toss is something that will even out over a long enough sample size, one time will receive in each half and one will kick in each half in every game and how they make that happen is extremely inconsequential.

[MrTPlush]

Bears just got burned by an average TE for 40 yards...jeez.

[lcbj68c]

And that PAT was from the middle. Weird. If you like something, why not just stick with it, unless the wind or something is dictating. Am I remembering correctly that he had a terrible stretch from the left hash at one point in his career? Is there data on his %'s from each somewhere out there?

[PinaMadness]

Time to put Tonyan back in my lineup and put Cook on the bench. He won't do anything as long as Hill is the "quarterback".

[adambr2]

If you guaranteed me a TD on our opening drive if we receive I would be willing to receive the opening kickoff every game for the rest of my life and I'm sure the Packers would do the same. It's a weird game to bemoan the coin toss costing us when we score 6 on the opening drive and the Bears got nothing on theirs.

[yourout]

Wonder if trubisky has a hat-trick in him

[PinaMadness]

Wonder if trubisky has a hat-trick in him

I don't.

[FVBrewerFan]

If you guaranteed me a TD on our opening drive if we receive I would be willing to receive the opening kickoff every game for the rest of my life and I'm sure the Packers would do the same. It's a weird game to bemoan the coin toss costing us when we score 6 on the opening drive and the Bears got nothing on theirs.

 

It's also weird considering you have no control of the result of a coin flip.

[young guns]

If you guaranteed me a TD on our opening drive if we receive I would be willing to receive the opening kickoff every game for the rest of my life and I'm sure the Packers would do the same. It's a weird game to bemoan the coin toss costing us when we score 6 on the opening drive and the Bears got nothing on theirs.

Bears kicked a fg. I personally prefer to be able to defer just because of the possibility of being able to score going in and coming out being a psychological advantage.