Wisconsin Basketball Thread 2020 - 21

[MrTPlush]

Agree with this. I think just put a time limit on it. If you can't tell after 1 minute, call on floor. And hook and hold reviews are always atrocious.

 

I get they want accuracy and basketball possessions at the end of the game are about as valuable as it gets in sports. However, there is simply too often they are going to the monitor "just to be sure" and it feels like every time it was easily the right call or too close to switch. The worst is when they go to see who knocked the ball out of bounds, the opposing guy clearly knocks it out of a guys hands, but then they start picking it apart because it might have still been rolling off the guys finger. I mean come on, it is like some kind of technicality. If a guy knocks the ball out of your hand it should be out on him...not you cause it was still rolling off your fingernail. Simply too much going to the monitor when everyone thinks it is unnecessary and a waste of time before they even see a replay. Yet, even the obvious ones take forever. Also can't stand how it takes 5 minutes to figure out if there should be 12.8 seconds or 12.3 seconds left. It should not be that hard.

 

You can tell the announcers are even getting more and more sick of it as time goes on.

[RollieTime]

Agree with this. I think just put a time limit on it. If you can't tell after 1 minute, call on floor. And hook and hold reviews are always atrocious.

 

I get they want accuracy and basketball possessions at the end of the game are about as valuable as it gets in sports. However, there is simply too often they are going to the monitor "just to be sure" and it feels like every time it was easily the right call or too close to switch. The worst is when they go to see who knocked the ball out of bounds, the opposing guy clearly knocks it out of a guys hands, but then they start picking it apart because it might have still been rolling off the guys finger. I mean come on, it is like some kind of technicality. If a guy knocks the ball out of your hand it should be out on him...not you cause it was still rolling off your fingernail. Simply too much going to the monitor when everyone thinks it is unnecessary and a waste of time before they even see a replay. Yet, even the obvious ones take forever. Also can't stand how it takes 5 minutes to figure out if there should be 12.8 seconds or 12.3 seconds left. It should not be that hard.

 

You can tell the announcers are even getting more and more sick of it as time goes on.

 

Just need to jump in here to state that I think video replay has really put a damper on sports. Multi minute stoppages, nit picking every little detail like you stated above of if it possibly touched the end of his fingernail as a guy hit it out of his hand. I mean come on. Give a basketball team a couple challenges for the game if they want or something. But no more automatic reviews. Eliminate the review of every single turnover and scoring play in the NFL. Go back to forcing coaches to challenge. MLB is awful with the guy’s foot bouncing over the first few inches of home plate, the second baseman taking his foot off of second too quickly, clear and obvious tags or miss of a tag by a baserunner and it takes multiple minutes to do a review.

 

I would honestly rather have the human error element, have coaches do arguing for their team, possibly get ejected, and be able to move on after a call than to have sports do what they do today. I know them ever going back to rarely doing any review or none at all is slim to none, but man would a game be much more enjoyable to watch without it. Baseball games seem to be multiple minutes longer because of coaches standing at the top step waiting, sometimes asking for a review, then it taking a few minutes. Basketball games shouldn’t take 15-20 minutes to play the last minute and a half.

 

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[homer]

I agree. In football I don't mind the reviews after scoring plays because there's a natural break in the action there anyway. But stoppages in basketball are just horrible from a fan perspective.

[HiAndTight]

I agree. In football I don't mind the reviews after scoring plays because there's a natural break in the action there anyway. But stoppages in basketball are just horrible from a fan perspective.

 

I think they're pretty good in most sports. And certainly relative to CBB.

 

IN the NFL, sometimes it can be a little bit longer, but they usually figure it out pretty quickly and it doesn't add much to the game. Short commercial break and they come back with the call. MLB, pretty much the same thing. There's less ambiguity there.

 

But man, they look absolutely brutal in MCBB. And at least yesterday(again, limited viewing this year), it didn't look like the review even helped them make the right call. They blew three HUGE calls in the final minute, reviewed all three, and didn't correct any of them.

[LouisEly]

Maybe the refs need bigger monitors to review the calls. Maybe that's the problem - they're looking at 20" monitors (even smaller on NFL sidelines), and we're watching on 55" 4K TVs.

 

But yeah, after 90 seconds, go with the call on the floor.

[GAME05]

Maybe the reserve ref who otherwise just sits there should be responsible for sitting in front of a bunch of monitors, and when a review is called for, he's solely responsible for making it. And he could be looking at the play during all that wasted time when the regular refs are sauntering up to the monitor and fumbling with headphones and such. And then put a 45-second clock on it that if the reserve ref doesn't have his decision in within the time, a horn blows and the play stands as it was called. I've always seen it that the biggest time-sink in replay isn't actually watching the video, but all the time that's taken to prepare to watch the video.

[yourout]

Man this team is slow.

 

This is not going to end well.

[adambr2]

The Badgers are in pretty serious danger of tumbling all the way into the NIT if they can't even win this game.

[adambr2]

Nice run to end the half turned it around quick.

[bjkrautk]

Nice to see them make the big stop at the end to pick up a win. That first half was the best I've seen them look in 2021; here's hoping finishing one off will give this team some confidence for the Iowa rematch.

[stoutdude04]

Couldnt have won by 5.5 eh...

[areacodes]

The Badgers are in pretty serious danger of tumbling all the way into the NIT if they can't even win this game.

 

There is no way that a game that will end up being a quad 1 win for the Badgers - PSU is 42 in NET, 34 Kenpom and 45 in T-rank even after the loss yesterday - would have dropped them 4+ seed lines and out of the tourney.

[pacopete4]

Haven't watched a Badgers game recently because I didn't want to watch that trainwreck of a team. I tuned in to the last part of the 2nd half last night and was reminded pretty quickly why I stopped watching.

[wallus]

Couldnt have won by 5.5 eh...

 

Betting on the Badgers is living life dangerously.

[wallus]

Haven't watched a Badgers game recently because I didn't want to watch that trainwreck of a team. I tuned in to the last part of the 2nd half last night and was reminded pretty quickly why I stopped watching.

 

Yeah, I am the same way. I think I am burnt out on this team so I stopped making it a priority to watch them. I am also a very vocal Brad Davison hater. I will tune in to see them win one game in the tournament though.

[young guns]

Covid is hitting the acc hard. First Duke has to forfeit their quarterfinal game and now Virginia has to forfeit their semifinal game, and they may not be able to participate in the ncaa tournament.

[stoutdude04]

Couldnt have won by 5.5 eh...

 

Betting on the Badgers is living life dangerously.

 

Normally I wouldn't. In fact, I have made a good chunk this year doing the opposite.

 

However, last night I thought...no Boroski, team fired up after Gard spoke up for them...They win by 10. Well, they were up 16 with 6 minutes left and then went into the, 'Wait until the shot clock is at 3 and shoot' offense. So, so annoying.

[homer]

Just took a look at KenPom for the first time in a while and didn't realize Loyola - Chicago was ranked in the top 10. UW beat them by 14 in the pre season.

[stoutdude04]

Just took a look at KenPom for the first time in a while and didn't realize Loyola - Chicago was ranked in the top 10. UW beat them by 14 in the pre season.

 

They did seem to play better at the beginning of the season. Opposite of last year it feels like.

[HiAndTight]

Ok...so a badger hardcore fan, give me an optimistic outlook.

 

Is there ANY hope they can get it going and go on a run in the Tourney? Maybe an elite 8 appearance where they'll all talk about how that big 10 schedule and a team that lost 5 straight in Conf play is one win away from the Final Four?

 

Or, to steal a line from Ron Wolf, is it a given they're going out like a fart in the wind?

[HiAndTight]

Now Kansas is also out of the Big 12 tourney.

 

Duke, UV and KU...a couple of Blue Bloods and another team that's consistently been in the top 10 the last few years. People thought Covid was over a bit too early.

[MrTPlush]

This tourney is quickly looking like it can turn into a joke real quick....any team can make it far depending how the chips fall. My understanding is once they make the bracket there will be no reseeding, however replacements can be done the first 48 hours. So take Kansas for an example and they are a #4 seed. My understanding is even if something happened in those 48 hours they will get replaced by a team outside the tourney and that team will go straight into their #4 seed position. Or you know, a team like Kansas could have what happened today and the low seed would get an automatic win due to forfeit. It really isn't far fetched for any team to make the Sweet 16 without ever playing a game or playing against opponents with multiple players out due to COVID.

 

In normal conditions could this Badgers team make it to the Elite 8, umm no...not without a miracle. It is just like any other year though. You just need to get a little hot, get good match ups, and probably have a high seed get knocked out so you never have to face them. Except now you can also get lucky via COVID reasons.

 

The Badgers biggest issues right now is the fact they seem solidly on that 8/9 line. If they face a #1 seed, yah, I wouldn't bet on the Badgers. If they could find themselves as a #7 seed they may get lucky and face a Big Ten team that is a #2...a more realistic chance for them to beat a high seed.

[pacopete4]

Why did I did it to myself? What a group of underachievers. They melt with any sort of pressure. I’m so ready for a new wave of players.

[yourout]

Why did I did it to myself? What a group of underachievers. They melt with any sort of pressure. I’m so ready for a new wave of players.

 

Certainly short on athletes.

[superfly]

What the hell was that? I’ve barely watched this year, but for having watched Trice, Davison, Ford, etc etc for 3-4 years that was downright PATHETIC as far as common sense toward the end. Wow...Potter can’t (and shouldn’t be asked to) do it all folks.