Surprise Trade(s)?

[Madhawk23]

Ummmm....yeah, Woodruff would bring back an absolute haul of players. So would Burnes. But, there's no way you are trading either of those guys, unless if you absolutely wanted to go 100% in on a full rebuild. That's not going to happen though, especially with Yeli currently in his prime (and the big contract).

[pacopete4]

I’ll be very interested to see how they value Arcia this offseason. Bringing him back jams up Urias and it’d almost be signaling that you don’t believe in him.

[nate82]

No doubt, the Brewers would love to trade Arcia or Gamel, but it takes two to tango. Because those two players have a fair chance of being non-tendered the only thing they’d bring in a trade is another club’s roster filler. Same deal with Pina, very unlikely he is tendered a contract, so nobody is going to trade for him.

 

As for Houser, he essentially went out and handed the team an automatic loss more often than not. Pitchers with good stuff and poor command are a dime a dozen. The only thing Houser brings back in a trade is another team’s question marks.

 

For Pina I could definitely see a team like the Yankees going after Pina. While he would be expensive for the Brewers as a backup he would be fairly cheap for them. Something like Sanchez for Pina would save them about $3m. The Yankees want to get under the penalty so doing something like this makes sense and it would allow them to pickup any free agent they would want. They could pair Pina with Realmuto if they wanted to but I think the Yankees will forgo another bat in their lineup and will instead focus on pitching again this off season though the pitching market in free agency doesn't look all that good.

 

I think Arcia could be traded for some wildcards basically someone in the low minors probably someone in the DSL. Gamel I agree probably won't bring anything back and I doubt many will be interested at his salary numbers.

 

 

For a surprise trade I would think a trade of Woodruff or Burnes would be the biggest surprise. That would bring in a lot of talent but you are looking at prospects versus established players. Woodruff would have a value above $100m and Burnes just right behind him at about $80m, once you start getting into values this high it becomes really hard to find trades and trade partner(s) to pull off a trade. The biggest problem is getting the value back unless a team is sitting on 2-3 highly regarded prospects, basically they would have to be 2 prospects in the 1-15 range with the third being in the 20-30 range.

 

So to me the biggest surprise would be Woodruff or Burnes being traded.

[TURBO]

I think the odds of Woodruff and or Burnes being traded is pretty close to 0%.

 

No way we are trading our own home grown starting pitching, when that has been a thorn in our sides for decades.

[HiAndTight]

I’ll be very interested to see how they value Arcia this offseason. Bringing him back jams up Urias and it’d almost be signaling that you don’t believe in him.

 

They've openly talked about Urias playing 3rd base. I'd say bringing back Arcia would say less about how they feel about Urias and more about how they feel about any potential 3rd basemen they've got.

[Devinep]

I’ll be very interested to see how they value Arcia this offseason. Bringing him back jams up Urias and it’d almost be signaling that you don’t believe in him.

 

They've openly talked about Urias playing 3rd base. I'd say bringing back Arcia would say less about how they feel about Urias and more about how they feel about any potential 3rd basemen they've got.

 

If they go in with Urias AND Arcia as everyday starters next year, they aren’t even trying to win. I could see those 2 splitting SS and Urias being the RHB in a platoon with a 3B who can actually hit righties

[titletownking]

Would love to see the Brewers get involved with a guy like Chris Taylor. Has 1 year left on his deal and is a super utility guy. Side note, I’m beginning to get the sad despair that the Brewers will never win a World Series in my life.

[Madhawk23]

I doubt there is any way we are getting in on Taylor, unless if it comes after next season when he becomes a FA. Can't imagine we're going to trade for a guy that only has one year left on this deal.

 

If the Rays can make two WS in the past 12 seasons with one of the smallest payrolls in baseball - then it's certainly possible for the Brewers. But, it definitely makes you a bit depressed to think how close we were just two years ago. Game 7 at home with a trip to the WS on the line, and we couldn't get the job done.

[HiAndTight]

Would love to see the Brewers get involved with a guy like Chris Taylor. Has 1 year left on his deal and is a super utility guy. Side note, I’m beginning to get the sad despair that the Brewers will never win a World Series in my life.

 

 

I don't know if they will or won't, but I know they're at least more on track than at any other point in my lifetime(born after the '82 team...barely).

[HiAndTight]

 

If they go in with Urias AND Arcia as everyday starters next year, they aren’t even trying to win. I could see those 2 splitting SS and Urias being the RHB in a platoon with a 3B who can actually hit righties

 

 

Or it could be that they think more highly of Urias than some fans do. Or it could mean they've upgrade other area's and simply haven't been able to upgrade 3rd base.

 

I don't know, it's a bit early to say if a certain player starts at 3rd base, that's a sign they "aren't even trying to win."

 

Short of signing LaStella(who many are not a fan of) or Turner(who's 36)...it's not like there are a whole lot of options in free agency.

 

What's more, even if that's their "preferred" lineup or their opening day lineup, it's pretty obvious that would mean little. Gyorko could obviously play there, any potential signing may play 1st base...or hell, any number of lineup configurations. But I'm fairly certain that the Brewers will attempt to upgrade 3rd base as well as 1st and if they're not able to do so due to financial limitations, they can try in-season...EITHER way, I am certain following three straight playoff runs, they'll try to win.

[JohnBriggs12]

I think the odds of Woodruff and or Burnes being traded is pretty close to 0%.

 

No way we are trading our own home grown starting pitching, when that has been a thorn in our sides for decades.

 

 

Until you see what the return would be for Woodruff, I don't think you can rule it out completely. Agree with you on Burnes. He'll be cheap longer than Woodruff. As for homegrown pitching, dealing Woodruff would allow you to keep both Hader and Williams and at least consider making Williams a starter.

 

After all this thread is titled "surprise trades". Most are listing guys they want to see traded but those guys have no trade value.

[pacopete4]

Trading a guy like Woody would pretty much cause me to just stop paying attention to the Brewers. It just doesn't make any sense for the now, or for in the long term of the franchise. You paid a kings ransom to Yelich because the idea is to have a few more playoff returns and hopefully have a shot at winning this thing. Trading arguably your most talented pitcher who isn't a free agent until 2025 would just be sickening.

[TURBO]

Trading Woodruff puts us right back into the "signing garbage starting pitchers" camp again. So sick of that crap as a Brewers fan.

 

We now have 2 legit top of the rotation types, don't trade them, keep them and build.

[wibadgers23]

A Hiura trade would be very surprising. I guess I could maybe see him be included in a bigger, blockbuster type trade (with Hader). A Yelich, Woodruff or Burnes trade would be downright shocking.

[PeaveyFury]

The Brewers have shifted somewhat significantly away from the defensive aptitude that served them/the staff so well in the 2018 run. Trading Hiura would be in-line with trying to improve defensively while hopefully filling multiple holes.

[brewcrewdue80]

The Brewers have shifted somewhat significantly away from the defensive aptitude that served them/the staff so well in the 2018 run. Trading Hiura would be in-line with trying to improve defensively while hopefully filling multiple holes.

 

Fun. Tell me a proposal where you'd part with Hiura.

 

Understand improves hit swing contact% his numbers will explode on offense.

I dont see filling multiple holes unless referring to future additions through Milb years away prospects. An immediate fill would be a 1v1 move. Gavin Lux, Nolan Jones. And Im not sure beyond that.

[PeaveyFury]

The Brewers have shifted somewhat significantly away from the defensive aptitude that served them/the staff so well in the 2018 run. Trading Hiura would be in-line with trying to improve defensively while hopefully filling multiple holes.

 

Fun. Tell me a proposal where you'd part with Hiura.

 

Understand improves hit swing contact% his numbers will explode on offense.

I dont see filling multiple holes unless referring to future additions through Milb years away prospects. An immediate fill would be a 1v1 move. Gavin Lux, Nolan Jones. And Im not sure beyond that.

 

Hiura for Larnach & Kirilloff would be exactly what I have in mind.

[nate82]

The Brewers have shifted somewhat significantly away from the defensive aptitude that served them/the staff so well in the 2018 run. Trading Hiura would be in-line with trying to improve defensively while hopefully filling multiple holes.

 

Fun. Tell me a proposal where you'd part with Hiura.

 

Understand improves hit swing contact% his numbers will explode on offense.

I dont see filling multiple holes unless referring to future additions through Milb years away prospects. An immediate fill would be a 1v1 move. Gavin Lux, Nolan Jones. And Im not sure beyond that.

 

Not sure the Rays would do this but you could get Xavier Edwards, Shane McClanahan and Kevin Padlo. I don't think the Rays would do this but that is another SS/2B in Edwards could be ready mid 2021 or 2022 with Padlo at 1B and McClanahan either in the rotation or in the bullpen in 2021.

[JohnBriggs12]

Ummmm....yeah, Woodruff would bring back an absolute haul of players. So would Burnes. But, there's no way you are trading either of those guys, unless if you absolutely wanted to go 100% in on a full rebuild. That's not going to happen though, especially with Yeli currently in his prime (and the big contract).

 

When they let Moose, Grandal, Thames, Aguilar, Davies and Grisham all go since the 2019 deadline and Braun possibly finished, their roster has been decimated to the point that it's at best a .500 team and years away from contending. Trading one of their most valuable trade pieces for actual major league talent in return might improve the team. The most promising group in their system is starting pitchers. We don't really know how close to the majors Small, Kelly etc. are, but when he was drafted, Small was considered one of the most advanced pitchers in the draft. Maybe you hold on to Woodruff another year but he'd be in great demand as he's reaching his arbitration years. Hader seems to be the guy who could bring back a nice package but Woodruff is the other option if they are really looking to acquire an impact bat via trade.

[pacopete4]

decimated to the point that it's at best a .500 team and years away from contending. .

 

We’ve heard this nonsense before from the fan base. And then they were a game away from the World Series and then happened to find the playoffs in the following two seasons. I’m so glad our GM doesn’t seem to have these overreactions that we do or we would be absolutely screwed.

[brewcrewdue80]

The Brewers have shifted somewhat significantly away from the defensive aptitude that served them/the staff so well in the 2018 run. Trading Hiura would be in-line with trying to improve defensively while hopefully filling multiple holes.

 

Fun. Tell me a proposal where you'd part with Hiura.

 

Understand improves hit swing contact% his numbers will explode on offense.

I dont see filling multiple holes unless referring to future additions through Milb years away prospects. An immediate fill would be a 1v1 move. Gavin Lux, Nolan Jones. And Im not sure beyond that.

 

Not sure the Rays would do this but you could get Xavier Edwards, Shane McClanahan and Kevin Padlo. I don't think the Rays would do this but that is another SS/2B in Edwards could be ready mid 2021 or 2022 with Padlo at 1B and McClanahan either in the rotation or in the bullpen in 2021.

 

While the Rays have 2b/SS covered I think they'd make this move in a heartbeat. They get the highest ceiling player and we are stuck with the prospects. Padlo looks like a AAAA hitter who would approach 200Ks. Xavier Edwards looks like another low pop middle infielder who will struggle to have an OPS north of .735.

McClanahan has impressed to A+ level. Seems the highest ceiling out of the trade but Milw's need is an everyday bat. You lose one while picking up neither. TB likely gains their DH to hit 30+ bombs and potentially carry a .285+BA behind it. Why are they in the World Series? Teams giving up on a quality player too soon and TB traded for them or picked them up.

[MrTPlush]

Even garbage teams with no direction are rarely trading TOR type arms with crazy amounts of control. Both guys have already shown big results and both arguably have even more potential they could unlock. It won't happen, for good reason.

 

I don't see the point of trading Hiura. We need offense more than anything. After his 2020 season I am guessing teams won't be backing up dump trucks to get him. Trading Hiura for prospects seems like a strange plan.

[Jopal78]

Josh Hader, Brent Suter, and Josh Lindblom and to the LA Angels for Jo Adell, Jahmai Jones and Jared Walsh.

 

Brewers get young major league ready players to be long terms pieces in RF, 1B and SS/2B. Makes sense to deal from a position of strength to infuse young talent in the lineup.

 

Angels get elite closer, another quality arm in the bullpen and a back of the rotation starting pitcher. New GM under some immediate pressure to build out a competitive pitching staff while the Angels still have Trout, Rendon et al in their prime.

[DR28]

How about Frankie Lindor??????? Haha