Packers 2020 team discussion

[HiAndTight]

Why would anyone think ATL or MIN would be good this year is beyond me. They stink. They had lousy offseasons and didn't get any better. Couple that with poor coaching and you get what you have this season for them. Both franchises are in trouble moving forward.

 

New Orleans has been our only real test and that game could've went either way.

 

 

Why would anyone have thought Minnesota would have been bad?

 

They were 57-38 coming into the year under Zimmer. They lost some DB's, but drafted a bunch.

 

I think the idea that everyone knew Minnesota was a bad team is a little bit revisionist now. Most people thought they were the team that would compete with us for the division title.

 

And Atlanta...nobody ever knows what you're getting from them.

 

They basically lost their entire defensive backfield. You don’t just replace that all at once and not miss a beat. Their offensive line is absolute dog turds and haven’t done anything to shore that up. They traded one of their only offensive weapons worth much. They were destined to be lousy to mediocre this year. Looks like they’re choosing the lousy road. They aren’t good and have cap issues. The Packers should curb stomp them for years to come.

 

 

They lost their Corners, they still had two All Pro Safety's and added an elite edge rusher. Their OL's not very good, but it hasn't been very good since and they've still routinely been a playoff team under Zimmer.

 

I think the idea that it was obvious they'd be 1-4 and a terrible team is a bit revisionist.

[adambr2]

This is just my opinion, but to me any talk about who should or shouldn't be good or will be good is pointless. The talent of all 32 teams is close enough together where most teams stand a reasonable chance of winning any game. I dont think Miami is really 25 points better than the 49ers and I don't think the Vikings win in the Superdome more than 2 out of 10 times but one of those two was last January and that was the only one that mattered that day.

 

Most teams are somewhere between 6-10 and 10-6 depending on the bounces they get in a season. There are a few teams below that gray area and a few teams above it. I'd like to think we are one of the teams above it and we certainly have a chance to go to the Super Bowl but it's obviously not a given.

 

How well or how poorly you match up against a specific team is definitely something I believe in more now than in the past and it does seem that the numerous injuries on the 49ers this year may keep them out of the playoffs and help us avoid that bad matchup.

[pacopete4]

I agree with that Adam. I just laughed at all the “experts” picking the Vikings to run away with the division and really, for no real good reasons at all. Hell, even their QB is about average. Especially when it comes down to actually performing in clutch positions against good teams. They lost more than they’ve gained and they weren’t that good to begin with. 8-8 was about their value this season and it looks more likely that they’ll finish about 6-10’ish, maybe even worse. I see a ton of Packer fans that will talk up these great Viking players too and then trash the Packers talent level and complain about the 2020 draft. Many. Many have looked very foolish this year and I for one am enjoying it thoroughly.

[OldHeidelberg]

Just noticed the once stellar Vikings D ranks 26th in yards and 27th in points. What has changed?

 

 

[wildcat83]

The Packers have activated St. Brown.

[Underachiever]

Just noticed the once stellar Vikings D ranks 26th in yards and 27th in points. What has changed?

 

 

Never wear a toupee that you get free with an oil change. That thing is awful.

[HiAndTight]

The Packers have activated St. Brown.

 

 

Nice. It'd be awesome to get a chance to see him get out there and get a few catches. I'm skeptical that he's active this week, but playing down in Tampa...it might be a good idea to go with another WR'er given that guys will probably need a bit more rest.

[wildcat83]

The Packers have activated St. Brown.

 

 

Nice. It'd be awesome to get a chance to see him get out there and get a few catches. I'm skeptical that he's active this week, but playing down in Tampa...it might be a good idea to go with another WR'er given that guys will probably need a bit more rest.

 

If he wasn’t going to be active, they wouldn’t have activated him. He still had 2 weeks before they had to take him off IR. If they weren’t going to suit him up I would think they would have let him continue to practice on IR.

 

He was a healthy scratch in week 1 which limits my expectations a bit.

[CheezWizHed]

Actually, St. Brown got injured the weekend of the first game (possibly in warm-ups). He went in IR the next day.

 

But he was pretty much a non-entity during this game, which isn't surprising given the lack of time with the offense.

[pacopete4]

From MVP to Bum

[pacopete4]

The Packers had 304 total pressures last year. They're on pace for 169 this season. Za'Darius Smith and Preston Smith have only 20 combined.

 

This is a problem. Whether it’s scheme or them not performing, it is a big issue.

[PinaMadness]

From MVP to Bum

Wow! That's a scorching hot take to end all hot takes.

[HiAndTight]

From MVP to Bum

Wow! That's a scorching hot take to end all hot takes.

 

 

I couldn't get past the first sentence. Does this moron really think this game is evidence why they drafted Love?

[HiAndTight]

Actually, St. Brown got injured the weekend of the first game (possibly in warm-ups). He went in IR the next day.

 

But he was pretty much a non-entity during this game, which isn't surprising given the lack of time with the offense.

 

 

EQ gets a mulligan like the rest of the team. He needs time to get into a rhythm with Rodgers and maybe he'll make some plays. But 1st game since December 2018. There was bound to be a bit of rust.

[homer]

The opening story is pretty funny:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30155009/karaoke-trivia-frat-parties-tales-aaron-rodgers-inner-weirdness

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The opening story is pretty funny:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30155009/karaoke-trivia-frat-parties-tales-aaron-rodgers-inner-weirdness

 

Everyone kinda knew Rodgers is an odd dude, but this really confirms it. Talk about a complete 180 personality-wise from Favre. With Favre, what you saw was what you got. There just wasn't a ton of depth there. I think when Rodgers hangs up the cleats in a few years, he's going to end of doing something completely off-the-wall, like go back to school to get a doctorate in neuroscience, or work for a think tank, or something along those lines. Or do something like he mentioned on his radio appearance yesterday, and take weird one-off film acting roles. There's no way he ends up doing anything in football. Dude is just wound a whole different way.

[kestrel79]

I love Rodgers stories like this... to me it doesn't make him "weird", it makes him normal and more relatable. Maybe it's because we're the same age, seem to have similar love for 90's nostalgia and pop culture, love of history. But I identify with a guy like that more than say Favre...and I grew up idolizing Favre as a 90's kid and still love watching old highlights of both of them.

 

His weekly interviews on the Pat McAfee show are great, it's good to see him open up, and also read his facial expressions as he's talking because you can clearly see he's pretty much being sarcastic the entire time to McAfee and all the "boys" on the show and slightly jibs at their "bro culture" show and personalities.

[BrewersSuperCollector]

I would love to hear this weeks game mic’ed up.

[HiAndTight]

The opening story is pretty funny:

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30155009/karaoke-trivia-frat-parties-tales-aaron-rodgers-inner-weirdness

 

Everyone kinda knew Rodgers is an odd dude, but this really confirms it. Talk about a complete 180 personality-wise from Favre. With Favre, what you saw was what you got. There just wasn't a ton of depth there. I think when Rodgers hangs up the cleats in a few years, he's going to end of doing something completely off-the-wall, like go back to school to get a doctorate in neuroscience, or work for a think tank, or something along those lines. Or do something like he mentioned on his radio appearance yesterday, and take weird one-off film acting roles. There's no way he ends up doing anything in football. Dude is just wound a whole different way.

 

 

I agree...but he's also pretty confident in his ability to assess talent. I could see him coming back down the road and becoming a GM for a team. But he's definitely going to do some other stuff first.

[Oxy]

I love Rodgers stories like this... to me it doesn't make him "weird", it makes him normal and more relatable. Maybe it's because we're the same age, seem to have similar love for 90's nostalgia and pop culture, love of history. But I identify with a guy like that more than say Favre...and I grew up idolizing Favre as a 90's kid and still love watching old highlights of both of them.

 

His weekly interviews on the Pat McAfee show are great, it's good to see him open up, and also read his facial expressions as he's talking because you can clearly see he's pretty much being sarcastic the entire time to McAfee and all the "boys" on the show and slightly jibs at their "bro culture" show and personalities.

 

I am shocked that ARod goes on that show every week. I've never watched until recently (the last month or so), but he just doesn't fit with that group.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I love Rodgers stories like this... to me it doesn't make him "weird", it makes him normal and more relatable. Maybe it's because we're the same age, seem to have similar love for 90's nostalgia and pop culture, love of history. But I identify with a guy like that more than say Favre...and I grew up idolizing Favre as a 90's kid and still love watching old highlights of both of them.

 

His weekly interviews on the Pat McAfee show are great, it's good to see him open up, and also read his facial expressions as he's talking because you can clearly see he's pretty much being sarcastic the entire time to McAfee and all the "boys" on the show and slightly jibs at their "bro culture" show and personalities.

 

I am shocked that ARod goes on that show every week. I've never watched until recently (the last month or so), but he just doesn't fit with that group.

 

I think Rodgers is pretty self-realized. He knows he's a pretty big nerd, but judging by that pretend frat story in that ESPN article, he appreciates bro culture, too. McAfee being a former player probably helps, too. Rodgers knows he's not going to be blindsided with tough questions from a former punter, a linebacker he used to play with, and a couple fanboys.

[homer]

I've always admired pro athletes that had intellectual pursuits outside of sports. Ray Allen is a gifted piano player. Kobe Bryant loved reading and spoke fluent Italian. Terry Crews painted portraits of teammates when he was in the NFL and later worked as a courtroom sketch artist (before he got into acting). I'm sure there are other examples.

[nodakfan17]

I enjoyed the Rodgers read (video was good too). Thanks for sharing.

[nodakfan17]

I guess Washington signed Robert Foster off the Packers’ practice squad to their active roster. That’s disappointing.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I guess Washington signed Robert Foster off the Packers’ practice squad to their active roster. That’s disappointing.

 

I don't know if it is, though. Say what you want about the way the Packers evaluate WRs, but when you are bypassed for the active roster by the likes of Darrius Shepard, Reggie Begelton, and for that matter, Malik Taylor, it probably says more about you than it does them. (I say this as a big Begelton fan, and I hope he finds his way back to the roster).