2020 Miscellaneous NFL News

[MrTPlush]

Stafford is in his 30s and has a mere 2 years remaining on his deal. If he doesn’t want to be there long term it makes a ton of sense for both sides to part ways now. Lions can get some value back and start their rebuild now. It makes them worse in the short term, but long term Stafford clearly isn’t their guy...might as well move on sooner rather than later.

 

As for Watson...the Texans are a horrid disaster. Can’t blame him at all.

[HiAndTight]

Stafford is in his 30s and has a mere 2 years remaining on his deal. If he doesn’t want to be there long term it makes a ton of sense for both sides to part ways now. Lions can get some value back and start their rebuild now. It makes them worse in the short term, but long term Stafford clearly isn’t their guy...might as well move on sooner rather than later.

 

As for Watson...the Texans are a horrid disaster. Can’t blame him at all.

 

I don't blame him at all...but it's getting weird with Stephan A Smith now saying it's because of racial reasons. Which he claims Watson didn't say, but was part of the subtext.

 

As far as I know, nobody's claimed their racist(the McNair family)...just very-very bad at figuring out who's going to run the team.

 

They really are helping the Dolphins rebuild very quickly. Imagine if the Dolphins trade them their pick back and end up with Wilson to Fields...and they end up better than Watson? Not likely, but it seems fitting for Texans fans at this point.

[Jaylyn]

Lions with a nice hire. https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2021/01/24/detroit-lions-john-dorsey-chiefs-browns-patrick-mahomes/6693966002/

[jerichoholicninja]

We thought last offseason's QB market was crazy, well 2021 says hold my beer.

 

Stafford and Watson will be on the move. Some of Wentz, Darnold, Garapollo, Goff, and Newton will certainly be with new teams next year. Dak is technically a free agent and could force a trade if he gets franchised again. Of course the outside possibility that Rodgers really does want out. With a couple top QB prospects in the draft we could see half the league will new starting QB's next year.

[PinaMadness]

Now Dom Capers will be Detroit's senior defensive assistant after holding the same position with the Vikings this past season.

[HiAndTight]

Now Dom Capers will be Detroit's senior defensive assistant after holding the same position with the Vikings this past season.

 

 

Well...take him off the list of guys who were very unlikely to get the job.

[HiAndTight]

We thought last offseason's QB market was crazy, well 2021 says hold my beer.

 

Stafford and Watson will be on the move. Some of Wentz, Darnold, Garapollo, Goff, and Newton will certainly be with new teams next year. Dak is technically a free agent and could force a trade if he gets franchised again. Of course the outside possibility that Rodgers really does want out. With a couple top QB prospects in the draft we could see half the league will new starting QB's next year.

 

 

Stafford to SF seems the most likely idea right now...which sucks. A LOT.

 

 

Good for him...god knows he deserves it, but that team would be my pick to go to the SB if they made that move.

 

Apparently nobody is interested in Jimmy G. The Pats I assume are counting on that and just waiting until he gets cut. Just 2.8 million cap hit. John Lynch is proving to be a really good GM as that was a very forward-thinking contract. Conversely, Wentz is almost impossible to move with I think 60 million in dead cap space(maybe even 70).

 

Don't think Dak is going to force a trade...he's one year away from his dream scenario. Kirk Cousins got 3/94 offered, fully guaranteed as a FA and he was several years older at the time. That translates to about 4/160 now, maybe more by next year.

 

Not sure how dead set Watson is on standing firm on his trade demands....

 

Yup...things are gonna be crazy this off-season. QB's like Goff and Jimmy G, take their teams to the SB and their teams want to unload them. You have at least borderline HOF talents like Ryan and Stafford, their teams are deciding it's best to start over.

 

Really hope we restructure Rodgers so we don't have to be included in any of that nonsense. Nothing to look at in GB other than a 6'5 DE from Pewaukee coming to try and be the second coming of Reggie White for the Packers!

[homer]

I'd like to see Stafford on the Colts.

 

I'm worried SF will make a play for Watson.

[HiAndTight]

I'd like to see Stafford on the Colts.

 

I'm worried SF will make a play for Watson.

 

 

Agreed with Stafford to the Colts. They have a great OL, Taylor's a stud and he could both thrive and not rip the Packers hearts out. I am a fan of his.

 

Not too worried about Watson to SF. Just don't think the Texans will trade him and if they do, they might want 4 1sts from SF given he'll be going to a team that's almost certainly going to be picking late in the draft each year(after this year).

 

If he does land in SF...well, that's probably a wrap. We'll get 4-5 repeats of last years SB ver the next decade(probably hyperbolic, but it would seem to set both teams up for dynasties).

 

Then again, maybe that gives the Packers a nice kick in the rear. Make them go get JJ Watt or whoever else to shore up this defense. Feels like we're one good player away from being elite. Watt/Clark/Keke would give you three well above average pass rushers from the inside and two guys who can play the run.

[nate82]

I think Stafford will be traded to the Colts also but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to the 49ers or the Rams. I could see a three team trade where the 49ers get Stafford, the Patriots getting Garoppolo, and the Lions getting a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick.

[HiAndTight]

I think Stafford will be traded to the Colts also but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to the 49ers or the Rams. I could see a three team trade where the 49ers get Stafford, the Patriots getting Garoppolo, and the Lions getting a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick.

 

 

I think the Rams are a real long shot. Feels like the only reason they're showing interest is to drive the price up. Otherwise...what, you pay Goff 30 million to backup Matt Stafford? I don't think Goff's the problem with that team. He's good enough...though Stafford would make 25 or so teams better.

 

Your trade does make sense though. 1st, 2nd and a 4th for Stafford is probably the value I'd put on him and the Pats could send the 4th back for Jimmy G rather than take the chance he goes elsewhere...

 

Pats are DEFINITELY getting Garoppolo back though. And they won't have to give up anything to do it as the reports are nobody is interested in trading for him most likely. And he'll probably win 10 games a year there. Then after winning because of Belichick he'll end up picking a team with two dominant WR'ers, bring in a 3rd, the #1 defense from the previous season and everyone will hail him as a hero!

 

The Packers should be taking note. 3 QB's who took or got their teams in position to go to the SB in the last 5 years(Wentz, Goff and Jimmy G) are not really wanted by their teams any longer, Watson wants out in Houston, the Lions squandered Stafford's career there. You have a good thing going and guy that wants to be there. Push every last chip to the middle...

 

 

Also, just a side note...so very glad the Bears decided that a career backup with success only in one city was worth THEM signing to be their backup. Otherwise they'd almost be forced to go out and get one of these QBs. As it is, they'll likely stick with Nick Foles and at best end up taking a very high risk QB like Lance or a low risk, low ceiling type QB like Jones in the draft.

 

I cannot articulate enough how much I've enjoyed watching them fail to find a solid QB since the days of Sid Luckman!

[nate82]

I think Stafford will be traded to the Colts also but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes to the 49ers or the Rams. I could see a three team trade where the 49ers get Stafford, the Patriots getting Garoppolo, and the Lions getting a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick and a 4th round pick.

 

 

I think the Rams are a real long shot. Feels like the only reason they're showing interest is to drive the price up. Otherwise...what, you pay Goff 30 million to backup Matt Stafford? I don't think Goff's the problem with that team. He's good enough...though Stafford would make 25 or so teams better.

 

Your trade does make sense though. 1st, 2nd and a 4th for Stafford is probably the value I'd put on him and the Pats could send the 4th back for Jimmy G rather than take the chance he goes elsewhere...

 

Pats are DEFINITELY getting Garoppolo back though. And they won't have to give up anything to do it as the reports are nobody is interested in trading for him most likely. And he'll probably win 10 games a year there. Then after winning because of Belichick he'll end up picking a team with two dominant WR'ers, bring in a 3rd, the #1 defense from the previous season and everyone will hail him as a hero!

 

The Packers should be taking note. 3 QB's who took or got their teams in position to go to the SB in the last 5 years(Wentz, Goff and Jimmy G) are not really wanted by their teams any longer, Watson wants out in Houston, the Lions squandered Stafford's career there. You have a good thing going and guy that wants to be there. Push every last chip to the middle...

 

 

Also, just a side note...so very glad the Bears decided that a career backup with success only in one city was worth THEM signing to be their backup. Otherwise they'd almost be forced to go out and get one of these QBs. As it is, they'll likely stick with Nick Foles and at best end up taking a very high risk QB like Lance or a low risk, low ceiling type QB like Jones in the draft.

 

I cannot articulate enough how much I've enjoyed watching them fail to find a solid QB since the days of Sid Luckman!

 

The Bears have been linked to Watson, Wentz and Garoppolo. Also the Rams have been looking at trading Goff or at least that is what the rumor is so he wouldn't be on the team with Stafford if the Rams do trade for Stafford. I think Jimmy G is the worst QB in all of the ones being talked about being traded so far. I think the three team trade of the 49ers, Lions and Patriots probably happens as it makes a lot of sense for all three teams involved. The Patriots sending a 4th round pick for Jimmy G and the 49ers sending the 1st and 2nd round pick to the Lions for Stafford. This would make the 49ers a really good team but I think it makes the Patriots just a little bit better than they were this season maybe they go 10-6 but I don't see much of an improvement beyond that.

 

I think the Bears are going to get Wentz in a trade with Foles going back to the Eagles to be the backup QB there. I am not sure if that works cap wise for either teams but I have a feeling it will be a Foles plus a 4th round pick to the Eagles for Wentz.

 

Watson I believe goes to the Rams for 2 1st's and Goff. Again I don't think this works cap wise but it is what my gut is telling me that is going to happen. With Goff going to the Texans I believe they keep Watt or at least they won't trade him unless they get a 1st or 2nd round pick for him which I don't believe will happen.

[madbad2000]

No way the Bears go into 2021 with Foles as the starter. Bottom out, worst case scenario is bring back Trubisky and Foles as #2. Pace is going to take a shot at every big name QB available and I'm not sure there are many teams willing to overpay like Chicago will. Other teams may have more immediate capital/higher 2021 draft picks, but with Pace/Nagy on their last chance and not afraid to go big they can't be counted out at all. When you start tossing around 4 first round picks or 3 and a good player, they will be in those talks without a doubt.

[homer]

Report that Detroit is dealing Stafford to the Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders, and a 3rd rounder

[adambr2]

Report that Detroit is dealing Stafford to the Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders, and a 3rd rounder

 

I'd be thrilled if I were a Lions fan. That's a haul. And you get a youngish QB with some upside.

[nate82]

Should be official now!

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/detroit-lions-trade-matthew-stafford-to-los-angeles-rams-for-two-first-round-picks-jared-goff/

[HiAndTight]

Report that Detroit is dealing Stafford to the Rams for Goff, 2 first rounders, and a 3rd rounder

 

 

Just saw that...that's insane.

 

How does this trade work? He has a 65 MILLION dollar cap hit. I wonder if the NFL is going to allow this trade to go through.

 

Also, pretty good idea of what Watson will fetch. If Stafford, an older QB who's been banged up gets you two 1sts, a 3rd AND a really solid young starter in return, the Texans have to be looking at a bare minimum of 3 1sts and likely a couple more mid-round picks.

[pacopete4]

Time to trade Rodgers. Jeezuz.

[HiAndTight]

Time to trade Rodgers. Jeezuz.

 

 

The Rams will go from Goff...1st pick in 2016 to 2023(at least) without a 1st round pick.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Quite a haul but he's 33. Rodgers is 38.

[HiAndTight]

Quite a haul but he's 33. Rodgers is 38.

 

 

I get your point, but Rodgers just turned 37. I think a team like SF would trip over their own shoes racing to at LEAST match what the Rams gave up and likely more.

[PinaMadness]

I like the thought of facing Goff twice a year.

[adambr2]

Rodgers is far better than Stafford, obviously. I don't think their ages are that important, if Rodgers were 43 then yeah. But I think both are likely to play about 5 more years and Rodgers will offer a lot more value during that timeframe.

 

Something fair with the 49ers might be two 1s + a 3rd plus Jimmy G. If the Eagles were going for it, you'd probably be looking at two 1s + a 3rd plus Wentz. Both offers are better than the Stafford return simply by virtue of the draft position. I don't think the Eagles would do it, but the 49ers would.

[HiAndTight]

Rodgers is far better than Stafford, obviously. I don't think their ages are that important, if Rodgers were 43 then yeah. But I think both are likely to play about 5 more years and Rodgers will offer a lot more value during that timeframe.

 

Something fair with the 49ers might be two 1s + a 3rd plus Jimmy G. If the Eagles were going for it, you'd probably be looking at two 1s + a 3rd plus Wentz. Both offers are better than the Stafford return simply by virtue of the draft position. I don't think the Eagles would do it, but the 49ers would.

 

 

Meh, I want no part of Wentz. Especially in lieu of an additional 1st. IF we were to blow the whole thing up, I'd rather take the picks and see what Love can do. At which point, even if he played like a top 5 QB, we'd still compare him to Rodgers and wish we have #12 back!

 

 

I'd also add that the Eagles likely couldn't make that trade because Wentz has a 59 million dollar cap hit, but somehow the Rams just made that work with Goff, so who knows.

[adambr2]

Rodgers is far better than Stafford, obviously. I don't think their ages are that important, if Rodgers were 43 then yeah. But I think both are likely to play about 5 more years and Rodgers will offer a lot more value during that timeframe.

 

Something fair with the 49ers might be two 1s + a 3rd plus Jimmy G. If the Eagles were going for it, you'd probably be looking at two 1s + a 3rd plus Wentz. Both offers are better than the Stafford return simply by virtue of the draft position. I don't think the Eagles would do it, but the 49ers would.

 

 

Meh, I want no part of Wentz. Especially in lieu of an additional 1st. IF we were to blow the whole thing up, I'd rather take the picks and see what Love can do. At which point, even if he played like a top 5 QB, we'd still compare him to Rodgers and wish we have #12 back!

 

 

I'd also add that the Eagles likely couldn't make that trade because Wentz has a 59 million dollar cap hit, but somehow the Rams just made that work with Goff, so who knows.

 

I think in these types of deals it almost always has to be both high priced QBs exchanging sides to make the cap work on both ends. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have Hurts.