2020 Miscellaneous NFL News

[jerichoholicninja]

Wasn't Brees suppose to sign with Miami but something changed his mind at the last minute?

[nodakfan17]

Wasn't Brees suppose to sign with Miami but something changed his mind at the last minute?

The two sides were reportedly very close to an agreement, but Miami backed out due to concerns about Brees’ shoulder. Instead, they traded a 2nd round draft pick for Daunte Culpepper who started 4 games for the Dolphins then got hurt.

[jerichoholicninja]

Wasn't Brees suppose to sign with Miami but something changed his mind at the last minute?

The two sides were reportedly very close to an agreement, but Miami backed out due to concerns about Brees’ shoulder. Instead, they traded a 2nd round draft pick for Daunte Culpepper who started 4 games for the Dolphins then got hurt.

 

The shoulder, yup, that's what it was. I don't even know what Miami looked like at the time for talent or coaches but it probably doesn't turn out as well for him as it did in New Orleans. The stars all seemed to align for him once he got there.

[Outlander]

A lot of what ifs with Brees. Recall the Packers were even interested in him if Favre decided to retire after 2005 as the Packers were not confident in Rodgers.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Brees also started losing interest in Miami because they wouldn't stop talking about the shoulder and asking for assurances it was ok. I want to say Nick Sabans was coaching there at the time but I'm not sure.

[HiAndTight]

Brees also started losing interest in Miami because they wouldn't stop talking about the shoulder and asking for assurances it was ok. I want to say Nick Sabans was coaching there at the time but I'm not sure.

 

It was definitely Saban(which I only remember because I just watched a profile on him the week before the CFB Title game). He wanted Brees and when he failed his physical, he said it helped him realize how little control he had in the NFL compared to in College. He couldn't overrule the medical staff as Wolf did with the Favre trade.

[nodakfan17]

Brees also started losing interest in Miami because they wouldn't stop talking about the shoulder and asking for assurances it was ok. I want to say Nick Sabans was coaching there at the time but I'm not sure.

 

It was definitely Saban(which I only remember because I just watched a profile on him the week before the CFB Title game). He wanted Brees and when he failed his physical, he said it helped him realize how little control he had in the NFL compared to in College. He couldn't overrule the medical staff as Wolf did with the Favre trade.

Saban also could have taken Rodgers #2 overall in the 2005 draft, but took Ronnie Brown, and started Gus Frerotte at QB instead.

[Underachiever]

Brees also started losing interest in Miami because they wouldn't stop talking about the shoulder and asking for assurances it was ok. I want to say Nick Sabans was coaching there at the time but I'm not sure.

 

It was definitely Saban(which I only remember because I just watched a profile on him the week before the CFB Title game). He wanted Brees and when he failed his physical, he said it helped him realize how little control he had in the NFL compared to in College. He couldn't overrule the medical staff as Wolf did with the Favre trade.

That seems weird to me. A guy fails his physical and that makes Saban realize how little control he had? He could have signed a free agent, made a trade, something! In college, a guy goes down, you don't have any of those options until next signing day. Or now, the transfer portal. But that wasn't an option in 2005. I guess it has worked out for Saban, so I'll stop worrying about him now.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Saban was a coach though, is the point. In college that's like being president of the program. He can be vetoed asking for a trade or FA in the pros.

 

To be honest, most teams would have done what Miami did passing on Brees. All the doctors were saying it was not likely he would ever regain form. Saban could have pushed for Rodgers, but the legend has it that he strongly preferred Smith, and couldn't get past that he was "settling" on Rodgers. Gruden also told Rodgers the Bucs would draft him at 5. For whatever reason, the Packers got lucky. They knew ahead of time if he fell, they'd take him.

 

I always thought it was one of those freak things...enough teams passed on him that the next team started thinking "they know something about this guy we don't."

[MrTPlush]

Brees also started losing interest in Miami because they wouldn't stop talking about the shoulder and asking for assurances it was ok. I want to say Nick Sabans was coaching there at the time but I'm not sure.

 

It was definitely Saban(which I only remember because I just watched a profile on him the week before the CFB Title game). He wanted Brees and when he failed his physical, he said it helped him realize how little control he had in the NFL compared to in College. He couldn't overrule the medical staff as Wolf did with the Favre trade.

Saban also could have taken Rodgers #2 overall in the 2005 draft, but took Ronnie Brown, and started Gus Frerotte at QB instead.

 

Yup, Saban was all in on Alex Smith, but didn’t like Rodgers enough to pick him #2. Saban really whiffed on getting a QB in the NFL

[Outlander]

https://www.nfl.com/news/the-inside-story-behind-aaron-rodgers-freefall-at-the-2005-nfl-draft

 

Good article by Gil Brandt regarding some of the details of the 2005 draft. Interesting that Brandt knew Rodgers would likely fall to 24 and even told Rodgers that the Packers would pick him but Rodgers still elected to show up. Imagine he still felt that the 49ers would go with him.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

There were teams in front of the Packers that admitted doing very little study on Rodgers because they thought he'd never be there when they picked. Thompson was lauded for his due diligence and the amount of time he spent on Rodgers and others who seemingly had no chance of making it to 24. That's before even mentioning the fortitude it took to select a QB in the first with the most popular athlete in the state still around and pining for weapons to make one more run at a championship.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

It was Tom Rossley that put Rodgers on the Packers' radar. He was HC at Southern Methodist previously, and his QB coach there was, at the time of the draft, the QB coach at Cal. He told Rossley that he had to come see Rodgers, that the NFL was getting this wrong, and that Rodgers was going to be the next big star. Rossley didn't want to go because he figured there was no way at #24, but he did anyway. He watched him work out and told Thompson he was something special.

[wildcat83]

So the Lions new coach has an interesting personality. Jeesh, he spent half of his first press conference talking about biting a chunk out of knee caps! Seems like this will go well...

[homer]

yeah I like that having that guy in the division

[PinaMadness]

So Suh is coming back to Detroit?

[CheezWizHed]

He reminds me (looks and talk) of a young Ditka.

[PinaMadness]

Looks like Stafford is not interested in busting kneecaps.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-stafford-era-in-detroit-likely-over-as-star-qb-requests-trade

 

Good luck to him. He deserves better than the Lions.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Looks like Stafford is not interested in busting kneecaps.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-stafford-era-in-detroit-likely-over-as-star-qb-requests-trade

 

Good luck to him. He deserves better than the Lions.

 

Hope they trade him somewhere in the AFC. The thought of him on an NFC contender like the Saints, Rams, 49ers, Bucs (if Brady retires), or Washington is scary.

[nodakfan17]

I don’t like that players can just decide to be done with a team. Both Stafford and Watson have legitimate grievances, but this is turning into the NBA. Sign a big contract at the first opportunity to get the guaranteed money, then force a trade later when you’re no longer satisfied with your situation.

[pacopete4]

They mutually agreed to part ways. Why wouldn’t he want to go? The Lions are the worst run franchise in the NFL along with the Jets.

[wildcat83]

I don’t like that players can just decide to be done with a team. Both Stafford and Watson have legitimate grievances, but this is turning into the NBA. Sign a big contract at the first opportunity to get the guaranteed money, then force a trade later when you’re no longer satisfied with your situation.

 

Stafford didn’t force anything, all the reports said they mutually agreed. He’s given his entire career to that city and was surrounded with garbage for almost all of it. Give him a chance to play on a contender and give the team a chance to rebuild faster without his contract. It’s a no brainer for both sides.

 

Colts make a lot of sense...

[nodakfan17]

I don’t like that players can just decide to be done with a team. Both Stafford and Watson have legitimate grievances, but this is turning into the NBA. Sign a big contract at the first opportunity to get the guaranteed money, then force a trade later when you’re no longer satisfied with your situation.

 

Stafford didn’t force anything, all the reports said they mutually agreed. He’s given his entire career to that city and was surrounded with garbage for almost all of it. Give him a chance to play on a contender and give the team a chance to rebuild faster without his contract. It’s a no brainer for both sides.

 

Colts make a lot of sense...

True, the situations are a little different. Watson is demanding a trade, while Stafford merely requested one. Though, to be fair, it sounds like he initiated it. Breakups are rarely ‘mutual.’

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/matthew-stafford-era-in-detroit-likely-over-as-star-qb-requests-trade

[nate82]

I don’t like that players can just decide to be done with a team. Both Stafford and Watson have legitimate grievances, but this is turning into the NBA. Sign a big contract at the first opportunity to get the guaranteed money, then force a trade later when you’re no longer satisfied with your situation.

 

In Stafford's case the Lions are also thinking in the same way that Stafford is. It looks like Stafford went to the Lions and requested to be traded and they said wait until they had the management in place. I don't see Stafford forcing a trade here and it looks more like both are in agreement that they want to work out a trade. Stafford could have said screw you to the Lions and made a bunch of noise in the media stating he wants to be traded but he kept quiet and waited for the new management to come in. It looks like Detroit had very little interest in keeping Stafford and they believe the best move is to move him and it is not because he requested to be traded.

[HiAndTight]

I don’t like that players can just decide to be done with a team. Both Stafford and Watson have legitimate grievances, but this is turning into the NBA. Sign a big contract at the first opportunity to get the guaranteed money, then force a trade later when you’re no longer satisfied with your situation.

 

 

Again...this isn't turning into the NBA at all. This is how it's ALWAYS been done. Guys have always done this. Remember John Elway?

 

Also, Stafford isn't really forcing his way out;

 

After meetings in recent weeks in which Stafford expressed a desire for a fresh start, the Lions understood his position and plan to begin discussing trade options in the coming weeks for their star quarterback, per sources.

 

And I'm not sure this isn't being put out this way so Stafford has more value. There have been reports all year long that they were planning on moving on from Stafford.

 

Let the guy go. Get him the hell out of the Detroit knee biters.