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I actually don't mind this at all. I like the look and glad they stuck with the color scheme. Numbers on the helmet is a nice touch. Taking the time to vet a strong name and logo while working through trademark issues is actually pretty smart.

 

 

I don't mind the name either. It's what many people have been calling them in protest anyway.

 

Don't get me wrong, it's not the most clever nickname I've ever heard, but it serves it's purpose for now.

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They should have gone with Washington Football Team to be Named Later.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Meh...he's an animal, but you add Adams and you lose Clowney. Not seeing a big difference. Clowney was ruining game plays last year when healthy even though he did put up big sack numbers.

 

Now if they bring him back and add Adams...that's starting to get back to being a dominant defense.

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Obviously an opinion here, but the NFL would lose the least of the major leagues by going no-fans. The in-person NFL experience is terrible. Without commercials and potty/snack breaks filling the 10,000 replay and TV timeouts, it's like endless teeth-pulling waiting for stuff to happen. I stopped going because it started to feel so labored.

 

It lacks the excitement of the NBA and the casual, relaxing summer fun of MLB and combines the worst aspects of both.

 

It's felt like a made-for-TV league for a long time.

 

 

I love going to Lambeau...but I hate the drive up, the traffic and all the rest, so in that sense, I usually sell most of my tickets and only go to one game a year. I don't really find the Timeouts and all that to be the problem...it's the fans at Lambeau. You get up and stand during a 3rd down on D and you have people tapping you on the shoulder. It gets so annoying. It's an older fan base, so...I get it and maybe it's just the section I have, but it feels like you're supposed to act like you're at the Master, not an NFL game.

 

Baseball games I love going to on like Wednesday afternoons when you had 18K people there and I can kick back.

 

I would say it depends on the magnitude of the 3rd down. No one wants to stand for every play, people are eating/drinking and in the bleachers things are pretty tight. I do get annoyed when someone stands up in front of me every other play, must be getting old.

 

But I am with OldSchoolSnapper on the experience at an NFL game, it's just a pain in the ass these days to go and the games are so much better on TV now than 30-40 years ago. I think the long security lines sort of were the last straw for me but I did make 2 of my games last year(gold) and had a good time, once you get to your seat it's great.

 

What does everyone think about maybe getting Everson Griffen? Seems like a mistfit for our D but I am always hoping we move away from the 3-4 anyway.

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Obviously an opinion here, but the NFL would lose the least of the major leagues by going no-fans. The in-person NFL experience is terrible. Without commercials and potty/snack breaks filling the 10,000 replay and TV timeouts, it's like endless teeth-pulling waiting for stuff to happen. I stopped going because it started to feel so labored.

 

It lacks the excitement of the NBA and the casual, relaxing summer fun of MLB and combines the worst aspects of both.

 

It's felt like a made-for-TV league for a long time.

 

 

I love going to Lambeau...but I hate the drive up, the traffic and all the rest, so in that sense, I usually sell most of my tickets and only go to one game a year. I don't really find the Timeouts and all that to be the problem...it's the fans at Lambeau. You get up and stand during a 3rd down on D and you have people tapping you on the shoulder. It gets so annoying. It's an older fan base, so...I get it and maybe it's just the section I have, but it feels like you're supposed to act like you're at the Master, not an NFL game.

 

Baseball games I love going to on like Wednesday afternoons when you had 18K people there and I can kick back.

 

I would say it depends on the magnitude of the 3rd down. No one wants to stand for every play, people are eating/drinking and in the bleachers things are pretty tight. I do get annoyed when someone stands up in front of me every other play, must be getting old.

 

But I am with OldSchoolSnapper on the experience at an NFL game, it's just a pain in the ass these days to go and the games are so much better on TV now than 30-40 years ago. I think the long security lines sort of were the last straw for me but I did make 2 of my games last year(gold) and had a good time, once you get to your seat it's great.

 

What does everyone think about maybe getting Everson Griffen? Seems like a mistfit for our D but I am always hoping we move away from the 3-4 anyway.

 

 

I like the 3-4, but if you're signing Griffen it's for pass rush situations anyway and then you're out of your base D. I don't think they'd be signing him to have him start(though Pettine has kinda used a hybrid system).

 

It's a nice signing...for maybe 5 million. With the Cap questions next year, not sure he's going to help this team where they really need the help(run defense) anyway.

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I saw the Packers lost their big FA WR (lol). I am very skeptical the NFL has a season. Maybe one where the start date is pushed back. This just sounds like a logistics nightmare and if a big star pulls out it could just keep rolling. Of course the TV money involved with football gives it a chance. But I just can't see it.
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I saw the Packers lost their big FA WR (lol). I am very skeptical the NFL has a season. Maybe one where the start date is pushed back. This just sounds like a logistics nightmare and if a big star pulls out it could just keep rolling. Of course the TV money involved with football gives it a chance. But I just can't see it.

 

The way that college teams have been impacted by the virus should be a harbinger of what's ahead for the NFL. There's no way to play the game or scrimmage without having lots of close contact, hard breathing, saliva, etc. Add in large rosters and travel and it's very likely that teams and game officials will contract the virus.

 

Whether that stops the NFL from pushing forward or not is questionable. Players want to get paid and the league has proven again and again that player health and safety is less important than making money.

 

Even a player hospitalization or death seems unlikely to stop the league from moving forward. The viewing public has ignored so many scandals, crimes, disabling injuries and premature deaths that the NFL is impervious to things that would halt other aspects of life. People want football, period, pandemic or not.

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College is even worse. Contrary to what many people think of the NCAA the fact is that most athletes do go to class. They are around a ton of people. There is some ability to mitigate this virtually but that's just one piece of it. The pros are too, but it's somewhat easier to control.

 

It's just a ton of people, a ton of interaction, and the on-field contact is actually less of an issue than the rest of it in my opinion. If MLB limps to a finish, the NFL will probably run with that.

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I would say it depends on the magnitude of the 3rd down. No one wants to stand for every play, people are eating/drinking and in the bleachers things are pretty tight. I do get annoyed when someone stands up in front of me every other play, must be getting old.

 

But I am with OldSchoolSnapper on the experience at an NFL game, it's just a pain in the ass these days to go and the games are so much better on TV now than 30-40 years ago. I think the long security lines sort of were the last straw for me but I did make 2 of my games last year(gold) and had a good time, once you get to your seat it's great.

 

What does everyone think about maybe getting Everson Griffen? Seems like a mistfit for our D but I am always hoping we move away from the 3-4 anyway.

 

 

I'd say when you start saying things like that...you realize the biggest difference between the crowds in Seattle and Green Bay is in the ages!

 

What type of 3rd down? You're AT the game! If it's 3rd down on the 3rd series of the game, does it matter? That's pretty much the whole point of HFA!

 

Anyway...most people I know think it's better to watch the games at home. I went to games all the time growing up, in my 20's. Now...just doesn't seem nearly as fun and like you both said, just a pain.

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College is even worse. Contrary to what many people think of the NCAA the fact is that most athletes do go to class. They are around a ton of people. There is some ability to mitigate this virtually but that's just one piece of it. The pros are too, but it's somewhat easier to control.

 

It's just a ton of people, a ton of interaction, and the on-field contact is actually less of an issue than the rest of it in my opinion. If MLB limps to a finish, the NFL will probably run with that.

 

I'm sure most college football players would opt for an online experience with their tutors and not attend classes in person.

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College is even worse. Contrary to what many people think of the NCAA the fact is that most athletes do go to class. They are around a ton of people. There is some ability to mitigate this virtually but that's just one piece of it. The pros are too, but it's somewhat easier to control.

 

It's just a ton of people, a ton of interaction, and the on-field contact is actually less of an issue than the rest of it in my opinion. If MLB limps to a finish, the NFL will probably run with that.

 

I'm sure most college football players would opt for an online experience with their tutors and not attend classes in person.

 

I hope this doesn't become a trend post-covid. I just can't imagine taking classes online you get nearly as much out of class. I bet you'd see a pretty drastic decline in test results.

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I hope this doesn't become a trend post-covid. I just can't imagine taking classes online you get nearly as much out of class. I bet you'd see a pretty drastic decline in test results.

 

Everyone learns differently and I doubt test results will decline all that much. They will probably rise because how are you going to keep someone from looking something up during an online test?

 

Some classes you may get more out of being there than online but some like a history class or even a non lab based science class I doubt there would be much of a difference. There are some classes where you get a benefit of it being online and others where you need the interaction.

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After having completed my 1st bachelors in person, 1st masters online, MBA through a hybrid in person/online and 2nd bachelors online..it really depends on course, how student learns and time commitment available. My history degrees, online was perfectly fine and preferred. Some of my business classes were much better in person whether through discussion/interaction or the feedback of immediate questions and answers/examples. Since these athletes get the advantage of tutoring assistance, I would assume they are going to be fine.

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Online class has been a trend for like 12 years now. Whitewater has a huge program. It's just one problem the NCAA is going to have though. Getting a bunch of kids to isolate is not going to be easy whether the classes are online or not. The 18-22 demo is not great at this sort of thing.
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After having completed my 1st bachelors in person, 1st masters online, MBA through a hybrid in person/online and 2nd bachelors online..it really depends on course, how student learns and time commitment available. My history degrees, online was perfectly fine and preferred. Some of my business classes were much better in person whether through discussion/interaction or the feedback of immediate questions and answers/examples. Since these athletes get the advantage of tutoring assistance, I would assume they are going to be fine.

 

 

I think there are a lot of people who get easily distracted and will have other tabs open during class. Plus, the class discussion and the lectures just aren't the same when you're not there in person....in my opinion.

 

I suppose the point about the test grades improving due to them being online is probably true.

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Just finishing my masters degree from Penn State in 2 weeks... all online. You do online tests differently. Essay tests don't really matter if they are open book. Timed tests make it hard to look up much and finish on time. Or if you need to, you can proxy a test (i.e. have someone watch).

 

Tools and online expectations are really becoming the norm in the work world. Zoom can do break-out rooms for small discussions, online ways to "raise your hand", it really wouldn't be much different. If you want to be distracted in a class, it really doesn't matter if you online or offline.

 

Yes, offline might take more discipline, but that might not be a bad thing.

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Vince Biegel out for the year after tearing an achillies in practice on Tuesday.

 

Injuries really have effected his career. I'm confident his time in Green Bay would have played out differently if he hadn't been injured in minicamp. He finally has a nice year including 10 starts for Miami last year, and it's immediately back on the shelf. Really sad.

 

Now, coming off the shelf from a major injury next year at already 28 years old by then, you have to wonder what's left for him.

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