2020 Miscellaneous NFL News

[CheezWizHed]

Watching games like this where I don't want either team to win is so annoying....

 

Cheer for dumb turnovers, bad coaching calls, and a tie.

[CheezWizHed]

Wow. Foles clearly throws the ball and it gets batted backwards and incomplete. Meanwhile, Foles gets a full hand to the head by the pass rusher. Both refs behind the play throw no flags and let the play continue for fumble recovery until a ref on the side comes running in and calls it incomplete. What in the world were the back two watching? Streaming Netflix back there?

[adambr2]

I feel like the Bears' brass all got together in the offseason with the ultimate impossible goal of finding a QB worse for their team than Mitchell Trubisky and by golly, they pulled it off.

[adambr2]

Although to be fair, the Bears offensive line can't block anything. That team is a sinking ship.

[PinaMadness]

Do you have insomnia? Watch a Bears game. You'll be cured.

[HiAndTight]

I feel like the Bears' brass all got together in the offseason with the ultimate impossible goal of finding a QB worse for their team than Mitchell Trubisky and by golly, they pulled it off.

 

 

Hey...Mitchell Trubisky is undefeated this year as the starting QB for the Bears.

 

Just sayin'

[HiAndTight]

I just wanted to say people should have a greater appreciation for what Alex Smith has done. He had 17 surgeries. He could have died. He never should have made it back, but he did.

 

 

You're absolutely right.

 

I can't watch him play...just watching the highlight of his first game back, Aaron Donald on his back and Smith taking a couple of steps with him...HOW!?!

 

He had one leg destroyed...almost literally. Then he takes the muscle from his GOOD leg...grafts that onto the bad leg. Now after 17 surgeries and a little toothpick left for a leg...and a severely weakened left leg...and he had a contract that he'd just signed and really couldn't have been cut before this off-season and he still fights like hell to come back.

 

Last two weeks he has 725 passing yards and has brought his team back from double-digit deficits to nearly win them games.

 

He's definitely the type of guy you have to root for.

[HiAndTight]

Drew Brees has multiple rib fractures in both sides and a collapsed lung. Let the Jameis INTs commence!

This is bad news for Packers fans. As crazy as it sounds, we need them to keep winning to keep Tampa at bay. Of course we need to keep winning too.

 

 

The Saints schedule is easier than Tampa's. They both have two games vs the Falcons, I think the Vikings, and the Lions.

 

But NO has played one fewer game. So while they get the Chiefs, the Buccs get the Chiefs and the Rams.

 

Given the tie-breaker...it's a long shot.

[Underachiever]

Watched the highlights of the Cardinal game to see the Hail Mary...

 

Boy Kyler Murray would run for 200yards vs GB the way defense plays. Want nothing of that team in the playoffs, unless Murray were injured.

Had a Kaepernick flashback over this comment. Somewhere, Erik Walden just looked around, bewildered.

[PinaMadness]

So did anyone listen to Chicago sports radio this morning?

[CheezWizHed]

Watched the highlights of the Cardinal game to see the Hail Mary...

 

Boy Kyler Murray would run for 200yards vs GB the way defense plays. Want nothing of that team in the playoffs, unless Murray were injured.

Had a Kaepernick flashback over this comment. Somewhere, Erik Walden just looked around, bewildered.

 

*Wince* I went to that game.

[HiAndTight]

So did anyone listen to Chicago sports radio this morning?

 

 

LOL...yes, I did. I actually had to drive down to Illinois and was mostly listening to the Milwaukee stations, but flipped over to 1000(whoever they are)...and the calls were hilarious.

 

The "fixes" were all just...priceless. Most centered around a franchise QB for next to nothing. Darnold was headed there(that actually makes sense). Luck in another...he'd come back and instead of playing for the team that owns his rights and has a great OL, he'd somehow end up in Chicago. Haskins was another. Not sure what he'd do.

 

I definitely hope they don't end up with Darnold. Pretty sure they'd ruin him, but he's talented enough I don't want to give Nagy that chance.

[nodakfan17]

It’s always struck me as odd that Trubisky went #2 overall despite only going 8-5 in his only year as a starter in college. The small sample size would have scared me as a GM. At least Kyler Murray played behind another Heisman trophy winner and was crazy athletic (as evidenced by going #9 overall in the MLB draft). I don’t recall ever hearing Trubisky’s name until he started popping up in mock drafts (and even then, he was in the range of picks 5-15, never #2). That’s not a knock on Mitch. Just a criticism of Chicago’s front office.

[homer]

This is hilarious. Everyone vote for YANNICK NGAKOUE to the Pro Bowl!

 

There is an operation underway to vote YANNICK NGAKOUE to the Pro Bowl so that the Jags get a higher conditional draft pick from the Vikings in the 2021 draft.

 

If Ngakoue goes to the Pro Bowl the Conditional 5th Round Pick the Vikings gave to Jacksonville becomes a 4th Round Pick.

Despite Ngakoue having packed his bags for Baltimore - the Vikings would still have to honour the agreement.

 

 

And here is the link to vote:

https://www.nfl.com/pro-bowl/ballot/defense/olb/

[nodakfan17]

The Yannick Ngakoue Pro Bowl campaign makes me happy.

 

I didn’t know there were many die hard Jags fans out there, but they could really use a win like this before their team moves to London.

[wildcat83]

This should be one of the more entertaining matchups of the NFL season, but I just can’t get excited for a Thursday night game.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

This should be one of the more entertaining matchups of the NFL season, but I just can’t get excited for a Thursday night game.

 

Well I wouldn't say Russ cooked tonight. More like nuked some leftovers.

[HiAndTight]

It’s always struck me as odd that Trubisky went #2 overall despite only going 8-5 in his only year as a starter in college. The small sample size would have scared me as a GM. At least Kyler Murray played behind another Heisman trophy winner and was crazy athletic (as evidenced by going #9 overall in the MLB draft). I don’t recall ever hearing Trubisky’s name until he started popping up in mock drafts (and even then, he was in the range of picks 5-15, never #2). That’s not a knock on Mitch. Just a criticism of Chicago’s front office.

 

Mitch Trubisky is a pretty good example of both how quickly a QB is expected to develop now.

15 years ago a QB who started basically 3 years and was 26-18 with 54/32 TD/INT ratio and a rating of 86...he'd be considered a franchise QB.

Peyton Manning through roughly the same period had a .500 record and threw more picks than TD's. But now they're expected to hit the ground running.

 

But I remember that draft a little differently. Trubisky was regarded as the safest pick and I thought he was regarded by everyone as a top 3-5 pick by most people.

 

Both he and Mahomes were guys I'd heard very little about. It was a pretty big surprise that the Chiefs moved all the way up to get him and I remember how some NFL teams didn't have a 1st round grade on Watson...in part due to turnovers in College and questions about his arm strength.

 

For my part, I'm done quessing how good QB's will be in the NFL. I thought Mahomes would be a worse version of Favre based on what little I'd seen from him at Tech and that Watson would be a solid QB because he was smart and a good leader, but not a stud. And I was thrilled to see Trubisky go to Chicago as I thought he'd be a huge bust(Which he hasn't been...he's just unfairly compared to the two QB's picked after him).

[nodakfan17]

I remember the Packers brought a UDFA quarterback from UNC to training camp in 2016 (Marquise Williams, had too look it up). His NFL tenure was brief and unremarkable. Then in 2017, I saw Trubisky’s name in mock drafts and thought it was odd that this UNC quarterback couldn’t beat out a camp arm in college, but was regarded as a high first round pick. I know there is much, much more that goes into evaluating a quarterback, but that’s my honest recollection of the situation.

[PeaveyFury]

Mitch Trubisky is a pretty good example of both how quickly a QB is expected to develop now.

15 years ago a QB who started basically 3 years and was 26-18 with 54/32 TD/INT ratio and a rating of 86...he'd be considered a franchise QB.

Peyton Manning through roughly the same period had a .500 record and threw more picks than TD's. But now they're expected to hit the ground running.

 

This is a very good point. So few of these guys actually pull it off, and guys like Wilson and Mahomes ruin it for the rest when they do. QB is so much more important of a position now than it even was 20 years ago, and those guys get overdrafted in the first round too often, end up on crappy teams that have major problems, and are cast aside when they don't work out.

 

The ones that really do succeed are ones that have a bit of time to sit, learn, and develop. Who knows what Rodgers is if he doesn't get that time from 05-07...

[adambr2]

Mitch Trubisky is a pretty good example of both how quickly a QB is expected to develop now.

15 years ago a QB who started basically 3 years and was 26-18 with 54/32 TD/INT ratio and a rating of 86...he'd be considered a franchise QB.

Peyton Manning through roughly the same period had a .500 record and threw more picks than TD's. But now they're expected to hit the ground running.

 

This is a very good point. So few of these guys actually pull it off, and guys like Wilson and Mahomes ruin it for the rest when they do. QB is so much more important of a position now than it even was 20 years ago, and those guys get overdrafted in the first round too often, end up on crappy teams that have major problems, and are cast aside when they don't work out.

 

The ones that really do succeed are ones that have a bit of time to sit, learn, and develop. Who knows what Rodgers is if he doesn't get that time from 05-07...

 

Well, Mahomes only had a year. Murray , Lamar, Wilson, Dak, I don't know if these guys had any time at all and they turned out quite well. I think Rodgers is more of the exception than the rule. I can't think of a single franchise QB since Rodgers who got 3 development years prior to starting. Certainly he benefitted from those 3 years.

 

However, these days, that benefit is offset by the lost years of cost control. I think that's why QBs are pushed hard early now. The minute they're drafted, you're on the clock, and you have 4 or 5 years until they become an enormous part of your payroll rather than being there on a rookie contract. The faster they become productive, the more you benefit from their rookie deal.

 

I think the Chiefs and Seahawks Super Bowl winning teams obviously benefitted from having their franchise QBs on rookie deals (at the time), giving them more to invest in the rest of the roster.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Taysom Hill is apparently getting the start for the Saints Sunday against the Falcons. That's fun.

[adambr2]

Taysom Hill is apparently getting the start for the Saints Sunday against the Falcons. That's fun.

 

I picked him up and plugged him right in at TE.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Taysom Hill is apparently getting the start for the Saints Sunday against the Falcons. That's fun.

 

I picked him up and plugged him right in at TE.

 

Josh Allen is my QB in a Yahoo league I'm in, so I had grabbed Winston earlier as my bye-week fill-in, as the wire QB pool was pretty scant (guys like Newton, Rivers, Cousins and Bridgewater were the highest rated, yuck). Just dropped Winston and grabbed Hill to insert in the QB spot. I'm 4-6 in that league, so what the heck. Time to live dangerously.

[nate82]

Wilson and Mahomes had and have good offensive lines. I believe that is being overlooked here. I don't believe Trubisky has ever had a good OL maybe his first year but each year after that it has been bad and this year is just awful.

 

Go back to Couch and one other that I am forgetting that set the record for being sacked or hit. QB's are only as good as their offensive lines if the OL is bad your QB is going to be bad. The same goes for the RB, WR and TE positions especially RB. I believe OL is far more important than the QB everything in football starts with the OL.