2020 NFL Draft Round 1 Discussion

[Mr Southpaw]

Qb is the most important position …….. We now have two, two really good QB.

 

Jordan Love has a long, long ways to go to be considered a competent starting NFL quarterback, much less a really good one.

 

You may have an opinion, I don't think it is accurate

[DuWayne Steurer]

Dude pooping in the background at Vrabel's house:

 

https://twitter.com/BrianMFloyd/status/1253532042190413827

 

The concerning thing about that pic is, whether or not the deucer is in the background, or in a mirror, they don't appear to close the door when they dump in the Vrabel household. And TBH, knowing that is gonna keep me awake for a while tonight.

[pacopete4]

History repeats itself. It will be interesting to see how Rodgers reacts knowing what he went through backing up Favre. You also have to bet Favre might’ve had a good chuckle tonight.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I can't see how this is really surprising to anyone that pays close attention to the team. Gute has said over and over that they always scout everyone they think they might draft. If they had a board and the big targets they wanted were gone and this guy was #5 and their BPA then it takes a lot of discipline to make the pick. It's just not a big deal to me. He might be traded, he might be out of football by 2023, he might be our next starter.

 

At a minimum this team badly needed a backup QB. Rodgers is old and no iron man. I'm fine with it.

 

I don't hate Jordan Love. I don't like that he's not an overly accurate passer. I like the big arm. I don't like trading out of the 4th round to get him, when there's a lot of holes to fill. I also understand that a 4th round guy is not likely to be a difference maker, but then again, it might be.

 

In a vacuum, I don't hate the move, I just find it more of a headscratcher, and I certainly don't love it. This is definitely going to be one of those "we won't know for a while" type picks.

[adambr2]

Qb is the most important position …….. We now have two, two really good QB.

 

Jordan Love has a long, long ways to go to be considered a competent starting NFL quarterback, much less a really good one.

 

You may have an opinion, I don't think it is accurate

 

An opinion? It's a fact that he hasn't even played an NFL down. He could end up being great, but let's maybe wait and see before anointing him as greatness.

[PeaveyFury]

So, where do we go from here? Obviously, the Love pick means they have to find value in the 2nd and 3rd. The good news is that this draft is build for WR depth and there should be some quality guys still there tomorrow night. The downside to what they did with Love, it's that it feels like there was a lot of value to be had by sliding back a bit- Jones and Cleveland still at tackle, Mims, Shenault, Pittman, etc. at WR, Kmet at TE, etc. Not sure what of that talent is there at 62, and the 4th was probably their best ammo to move up from there.

[HiAndTight]

I can't see how this is really surprising to anyone that pays close attention to the team. Gute has said over and over that they always scout everyone they think they might draft. If they had a board and the big targets they wanted were gone and this guy was #5 and their BPA then it takes a lot of discipline to make the pick. It's just not a big deal to me. He might be traded, he might be out of football by 2023, he might be our next starter.

 

At a minimum this team badly needed a backup QB. Rodgers is old and no iron man. I'm fine with it.

 

 

My only issue is that they traded up. I mean, I sorta have a disappointed feeling like I did when we took Rodgers because you don't get that instant gratification and that player that's likely to make an impact in year one. I thought if he fell to them they almost had to take him though. The guy is extremely talented and I saw a lot of people who had him as a potential top 10 pick going to the Chargers until recently.

 

It makes a lot of sense and he's got such insane upside...but just like when we had Favre, it was hard to get too excited about Aaron Rodgers at the time we made the pick, it's hard to get excited about a QB when we were in the NFCCG and have holes at WR'er and MLB'er.

 

Now if he reaches his potential, this is going to be looked back as a "no-brainer" just like the Rodgers pick was in the years since we drafted him.

[CheezWizHed]

[sarcasm]Favre's analysis of the pick is in: HAHAHAHAHA[/sarcasm]

[HarveysWBs]

I think nearly any time you take a 1st round talent in the first round, the appropriate fan response is probably to wait and see. I think Jordan Love is definitely a 1st round talent, so I’m waiting and seeing. It’s not like Rodgers was exactly setting the world on fire last year.

 

And here’s the river card: if there’s no NFL season in 2020, all of a sudden, the biggest critique of this pick (“a contending team needs talent now to get over the hump”) loses over half its potency. Look at the state of the world right now. I’m not at all confident we do sports of just about any kind this year—maybe not even golf. In light of that possibility, I can dig this.

[PeaveyFury]

And here’s the river card: if there’s no NFL season in 2020, all of a sudden, the biggest critique of this pick (“a contending team needs talent now to get over the hump”) loses over half its potency. Look at the state of the world right now. I’m not at all confident we do sports of just about any kind this year—maybe not even golf. In light of that possibility, I can dig this.

 

Welp, hadn't considered that until now. And that's a very valid point.

[pacopete4]

I’m indifferent on it. How can you not be? If Rodgers was younger I’d be mad they didn’t try to fill the gaps around him maybe but since he is older, a bit more injury prone, and really hasn’t lit it up much as of late, I totally bet trying to find the future. Will this pick be it? TBD.

[wallus]

Many of you are overrating Rodgers in his current form. I am okay with picking a QB because Rodgers has regressed mightily.

[reillymcshane]

I think you can still get some very good players in the 2nd and 3rd round.

 

RB or WR or OL are pretty stacked with some quality guys.

 

OT: Cleveland, Jones,

RB: Swift, Taylor, Dobbins

WR/TE: Higgins, Mims, Pittman, Kmet, Shenault, Claypool

 

Defensive side has Baun and McKinney and a bunch of DL and DBs I don't know that much about.

 

Lots of good players.

[adambr2]

Many of you are overrating Rodgers in his current form. I am okay with picking a QB because Rodgers has regressed mightily.

 

I don't disagree that Rodgers has regressed, but I don't see what difference that makes in relation to this pick. Rodgers isn't getting benched for Love, ever. He'll retire or be traded before that happens.

[HiAndTight]

Many of you are overrating Rodgers in his current form. I am okay with picking a QB because Rodgers has regressed mightily.

 

 

His play the last couple years has regressed the last couple years but I don't know if that's him or if that was the knee injury and then the lack of talent on the outside+ a new scheme.

 

The Packers sure don't mind taking big shots in the 1st round though. That much is pretty clear at this point.

[brewcrewdue80]

You can't make this a positive move. Its brutal and Gute should be fired before the end of the year. Trubisky made more sense than this for the cost.

QB not a Need. 1st round pick? Did the guy fall down where this is value? Nope. You stuck with your 1st pick and made this controversial pick? Nope. We traded up for a Backup QB to your highest paid player on your team. How's your 2020 team looking after the 1st round? Worse much much worse.

 

Wow you are one of the 32 GMs and you know where Love was good value? It’s called the Patriots were looking to trade up. You are not allowed to cheer for Jordan Love going forward.

 

I dont care what NE was doing. If they wantef Love good for them. They no longer have Brady who started for them last season. GB still has Rodgers, pay him the highest on the team. Love doesnt make GB a 10+win team the next 3years. You took your 1st pick and ignored your team for at least 3 seasons. Its hot garbage. SF who beat your team to go to the Super Bowl last season picked a DE who'll start from day 1. Then adds a WR likely to start day 1 from the slot. You had no answer for Bosa last season. They made it tougher. You had no answer for George Kittle last year. They paired him up with a weapon to mismatch your defense even more. If you have no intention to put a SB team out there after being 1game away, you have no right to trade up and select a project with your 1st pick.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Gute is playing chess while others play checkers...Rodgers now gets dealt to qb-needy New England for a haul, then the next season gets cancelled due to Covid and he has a boatload of cap space and draft picks to play with for the 2021 season

 

I hope Love becomes a great qb for the Pack..but I could honestly have a hard time caring less about it at this point. If he was best player available on their board, now is actually a great time to go get yourself a quarterback that needs time to develop. I thought the same thing when they drafted Rodgers, but admittedly it's a bit different situation with the team being solidly in playoff contention and not rebuiliding.

 

It's one of two moves every GM makes at some point to put a stamp on the franchise they run. The other is getting their guy in at coach. Hopefully Gute is as successful at coach and qb selection as Thompson and Wolf were.

[Jaylyn]

This had me rolling!!!!!!!!!!!

[adambr2]

Love started against three Power 5 teams last season -- Wake Forest, LSU and Michigan State.

 

He has a 48 QB rating in those games with 3 TDs and 8 INTs.

[HiAndTight]

That team had a pretty solid corps of offensive skill position players to build around, and didn't have a ton of holes to fill, and Favre was already flirting with the will he/won't he retirement. Rodgers says he plans to play 3-4 more years. This team has Adams and... not much. I'm not against Jordan Love. The positioning and timing of it seems off. Considering the other needs. Maybe Gute will knock every other pick out of the park. We'll see.

 

The two teams are pretty similar. If anything, this years version is closer and more talented than the 2004 team. Tony Fischer a backup RB was 3rd in receptions that year. Ahman Green was toward the end. They did have Driver and Walker...though of course the next year they lost Walker early and went 4-12.

 

2005 5'8 Antonio Chatman was the #2 WR'er, a career return man.

 

Again, that's not to say that I disagree with the pick of Love. I honestly think it's a little foolish to get too worked up until we get 2 or 3 years down the road and have a better idea of what type of player the guy actually turns out to be.

[HiAndTight]

Love started against three Power 5 teams last season -- Wake Forest, LSU and Michigan State.

 

He has a 48 QB rating in those games with 3 TDs and 8 INTs.

 

 

Didn't he lost like..10 of the top 11 returning offensive players, like his top 6 receivers, the entire OL and get a new system? I don't know what it was exactly, but it was a pretty ridiculous amount of turnover.

 

He was pretty dynamic the year before.

[pacopete4]

Love started against three Power 5 teams last season -- Wake Forest, LSU and Michigan State.

 

He has a 48 QB rating in those games with 3 TDs and 8 INTs.

 

 

Didn't he lost like..10 of the top 11 returning offensive players, like his top 6 receivers, the entire OL and get a new system? I don't know what it was exactly, but it was a pretty ridiculous amount of turnover.

 

He was pretty dynamic the year before.

 

Yes, but this doesn’t paint the picture that many want to.

[HiAndTight]

I dont care what NE was doing. If they wantef Love good for them. They no longer have Brady who started for them last season. GB still has Rodgers, pay him the highest on the team. Love doesnt make GB a 10+win team the next 3years. You took your 1st pick and ignored your team for at least 3 seasons. Its hot garbage. SF who beat your team to go to the Super Bowl last season picked a DE who'll start from day 1. Then adds a WR likely to start day 1 from the slot. You had no answer for Bosa last season. They made it tougher. You had no answer for George Kittle last year. They paired him up with a weapon to mismatch your defense even more. If you have no intention to put a SB team out there after being 1game away, you have no right to trade up and select a project with your 1st pick.

 

 

How did you feel about the selection of Aaron Rodgers?

[adambr2]

No one is "trying" to paint a picture, Brew. Everyone here wants this guy to be successful. Just stating the statistical facts. Yes, his supporting cast was down from 2018 and he tried to do too much.

[Yount19]

Love started against three Power 5 teams last season -- Wake Forest, LSU and Michigan State.

 

He has a 48 QB rating in those games with 3 TDs and 8 INTs.

 

 

Didn't he lost like..10 of the top 11 returning offensive players, like his top 6 receivers, the entire OL and get a new system? I don't know what it was exactly, but it was a pretty ridiculous amount of turnover.

 

He was pretty dynamic the year before.

 

9 new players on offensive with a new coaching staff and system.. I do like Love better than Herbert.. in 3 years, AR12 will be 39?

 

So how many of us got a Rodgers jersey that first year the Packers drafted him? probably close to zero.. Will anyone get a Love jersey? LOL