COVID-19 Thread

[stoutdude04]

I'll be shocked if places dont start opening up once this latest lockdown is scheduled to end.

 

Nonsensical and irresponsible? Not in my opinion.

 

 

When we enacted them? I agree. Two months later and a bevy of data suggesting this is nowhere near what we were told it was going to be? Yes. The only deaths occurring in MN are in nursing homes. Not tens and hundreds of thousands of young and middle aged people. The coming crisis of healthcare and employment is about to make this virus look laughable if we don’t stop the bleed.

 

It's also entirely possible that the safer at home extension helped keep numbers down. I hope you are correct and the numbers dont skyrocket, but I am not confident in that.

 

I for one am happy we were proactive and not reactive. I cannot imagine the difficulty in the decision to keep people at home/open things up.

[Oxy]

This one is one of my favorites!

 

[Oxy]

This is also interesting yet not among my favorites:

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=p+hacking&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS769US799&oq=p+hacking&aqs=chrome.0.0l8.1805j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[nate82]

[sarcasm]Apparently we just need to be smoking weed and getting high. Hah take that you hateful anti potheads![/sarcasm]

 

https://calgaryherald.com/cannabis/cannabis-shows-promise-blocking-coronavirus-infection-alberta-researcher/

 

All kidding aside if this works it would be awesome.

[Fear The Chorizo]

[sarcasm]Apparently we just need to be smoking weed and getting high. Hah take that you hateful anti potheads![/sarcasm]

 

https://calgaryherald.com/cannabis/cannabis-shows-promise-blocking-coronavirus-infection-alberta-researcher/

 

All kidding aside if this works it would be awesome.

 

This would also explain the lack of confirmed cases from fast food drive thru lines

[LouisEly]

CNBC just had the Mayor of Scottsdale, AZ, on and they asked him about how and why they are reopening up despite an increase in cases since May 1st. He said the measuring stick they are using is infections requiring hospitalizations, and he said those are down 96% over the last 20-30 days. He said that they had 6,000 hospital beds available and never used more than 500 at a time. They also tracked ICU beds and said they are trending "way down" and never came to a critical point even with the peak levels they experienced.

 

I really wish that every state and city would use, and share publicly, that data.

[superfly]

I really wish that every state and city would use, and share publicly, that data.

 

That would be very insightful to every side of the issue. Actual and easily accessible data would hamper narratives and accountability for governmental decisions, we can’t allow that.

[igor67]

https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/situation.html

 

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/data.htm

 

I'm not saying I google 'state' department of health coronavirus but maybe that was all it took

[RobertR]

We're not there yet, but there's at least some good news in the data and revised orders. Especially for small retailers.

 

Drive-ins being allowed to operate is pretty minor considering there are only 9 in the state, and only the ones in Jefferson and Chilton relatively close to Milwaukee, but hopefully it's a prelude to more.

[pacopete4]

[sarcasm]I'm excited to grab my guns and protest on the steps of Miller Park for them not allowing me my constitutional right of watching Brewers baseball come July.[/sarcasm]

[reillymcshane]

The reopening of the small retail stores is good. Obviously, every store is different, but some small places don't have more than a few people at a time in them for the most part. But it's a good start.

 

There's the free testing spots going up in Madison and Milwaukee. And testing ability is gradually improving. And the Feds are reportedly going to supply the states will more swabs - critical to doing testing. All good - but lots to find out.

 

My guess is that we will see a surge in cases in June as people start to interact more - and move around the states and country more. But the ability to test quickly will be helpful to contain some of these outbreaks. I think we are in for a long slog - with a lot of cases continuing for many months. But I really hope it's shorter than that. People can't be in their homes forever, but we have to be smart now that stuff is starting to open up.

 

The good part is that people are better educated, more prepared, and - hopefully - smarter. Same thing with businesses.

 

We've got a lot of trial and error coming up - and there will likely be some bad moments. But that's going to happen no matter what. Just gotta try do our best.

[FVBrewerFan]

A little too early to tell, but as most states have been gradually opening up, the numbers haven't spiked. In fact, many continue to improve. The GA governor for example, got a lot of heat for opening up and their hospitalizations have plummeted since opening.

 

WI needs to start phase 1 immediately. We're more than half way there already. If Milw County is excluded for now, fine. Heck, most counties in WI could easily go right to phase 2.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The reopening of the small retail stores is good. Obviously, every store is different, but some small places don't have more than a few people at a time in them for the most part. But it's a good start.

 

There's the free testing spots going up in Madison and Milwaukee. And testing ability is gradually improving. And the Feds are reportedly going to supply the states will more swabs - critical to doing testing. All good - but lots to find out.

 

My guess is that we will see a surge in cases in June as people start to interact more - and move around the states and country more. But the ability to test quickly will be helpful to contain some of these outbreaks. I think we are in for a long slog - with a lot of cases continuing for many months. But I really hope it's shorter than that. People can't be in their homes forever, but we have to be smart now that stuff is starting to open up.

 

The good part is that people are better educated, more prepared, and - hopefully - smarter. Same thing with businesses.

 

We've got a lot of trial and error coming up - and there will likely be some bad moments. But that's going to happen no matter what. Just gotta try do our best.

 

Agreed...although I would have agreed had this started happening a month ago, too. There will no doubt be spikes from time to time, but much better to start going through that in summer when the typical flu season isnt also bearing down on these same vulnerable groups of people.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

A little too early to tell, but as most states have been gradually opening up, the numbers haven't spiked. In fact, many continue to improve. The GA governor for example, got a lot of heat for opening up and their hospitalizations have plummeted since opening.

 

WI needs to start phase 1 immediately. We're more than half way there already. If Milw County is excluded for now, fine. Heck, most counties in WI could easily go right to phase 2.

 

I would guess that those fine folks who live in Milwaukee County would disagree. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put one county in the state (the most populous one at that) under house arrest.

[FVBrewerFan]

A little too early to tell, but as most states have been gradually opening up, the numbers haven't spiked. In fact, many continue to improve. The GA governor for example, got a lot of heat for opening up and their hospitalizations have plummeted since opening.

 

WI needs to start phase 1 immediately. We're more than half way there already. If Milw County is excluded for now, fine. Heck, most counties in WI could easily go right to phase 2.

 

I would guess that those fine folks who live in Milwaukee County would disagree. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put one county in the state (the most populous one at that) under house arrest.

 

Not really, FL is doing that and I would guess when NY starts opening they'll handle NYC differently than upstate. Mayor Barrett has eve said they will stay locked down even if WI goes to phase 1 soon. That doesn't mean people from Milwaukee won't travel outside the county, if that's what you're saying.

[homer]

Yeah I don't see everyone that has a cabin up north just sitting tight all summer.

[FVBrewerFan]

Yeah I don't see everyone that has a cabin up north just sitting tight all summer.

 

I think everyone (including government officials) knows that. But holding back Milw County from phase 1 would still be effective. You still have the restaurants closed down, etc. and most residents don't have a cabin up north. Some will travel into surrounding counties too, but at least the exposure would still be reduced if Milw County is kept "locked down."

[LouisEly]

A little too early to tell, but as most states have been gradually opening up, the numbers haven't spiked. In fact, many continue to improve. The GA governor for example, got a lot of heat for opening up and their hospitalizations have plummeted since opening.

 

WI needs to start phase 1 immediately. We're more than half way there already. If Milw County is excluded for now, fine. Heck, most counties in WI could easily go right to phase 2.

 

I would guess that those fine folks who live in Milwaukee County would disagree. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put one county in the state (the most populous one at that) under house arrest.

They're doing that in many places. NY Governor this morning said they will likely be opening up upstate well before NYC. Illinois has divided the state up into four regions for reopening (I would have divided it up even more).

[LouisEly]

UW-Madison students and faculty created a COVID-19 app specifically for Wisconsin:

 

https://news.wisc.edu/uw-madison-faculty-students-create-covid-19-app-for-wisconsinites/

 

I don't know if the discussion rooms are a good idea, but they do have a fact-checker that identifies misinformation circulating on social media specifically in Wisconsin, with vetted facts to address it. I don't see it on Google Pay yet, but the desktop app is available via a link in the article.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

A little too early to tell, but as most states have been gradually opening up, the numbers haven't spiked. In fact, many continue to improve. The GA governor for example, got a lot of heat for opening up and their hospitalizations have plummeted since opening.

 

WI needs to start phase 1 immediately. We're more than half way there already. If Milw County is excluded for now, fine. Heck, most counties in WI could easily go right to phase 2.

 

I would guess that those fine folks who live in Milwaukee County would disagree. It would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put one county in the state (the most populous one at that) under house arrest.

They're doing that in many places. NY Governor this morning said they will likely be opening up upstate well before NYC. Illinois has divided the state up into four regions for reopening (I would have divided it up even more).

 

I live in northern Wisconsin on the border of two counties that have had 11 confirmed cases combined, all of which are now recovered. I am all for a regional approach to opening things up. However, a regional approach, and segregating one county amongst the whole state, are much different situations.

[FVBrewerFan]

However, a regional approach, and segregating one county amongst the whole state, are much different situations.

 

Why? That's exactly what FL is doing, what NY will do, etc. If WI is going to be segregated, leaving Milw County on an island is the most logical way of doing it. That's regional enough, the surrounding counties are doing just fine.

[homer]

5 of 6 WI gating criteria have passed. The other one is close to it's target.

 

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

However, a regional approach, and segregating one county amongst the whole state, are much different situations.

 

Why? That's exactly what FL is doing, what NY will do, etc. If WI is going to be segregated, leaving Milw County on an island is the most logical way of doing it. That's regional enough, the surrounding counties are doing just fine.

 

Uhh ... no. No state is locking down one county in the state while allowing the rest to reopen.

[MrTPlush]

So what? One county...or ten. If you are a problem stay shut down.

 

It shouldn’t just be Milwaukee County though. Racine is bad, Kenosha is bad, and a good part of SE WI is a problem.

[sveumrules]

As long as Waukesha opens up so my Aunt Karen can finally get her haircut!!