COVID-19 impact on MLB season

[MrTPlush]

In the event of no season the likes of Mookie Betts and Co. will be free agents. Anyone with a full year last will accrue a year this year. It’s a tough loss for any team, but definitely is a gut punch to small markets with many young players where they will lose a year of them when they are so valuable.

[MrTPlush]

In the event of no season the likes of Mookie Betts and Co. will be free agents. Anyone with a full year last will accrue a year this year. It’s a tough loss for any team, but definitely is a gut punch to small markets with many young players where they will lose a year of them when they are so valuable.

[rickh150]

In the event of no season the likes of Mookie Betts and Co. will be free agents. Anyone with a full year last will accrue a year this year. It’s a tough loss for any team, but definitely is a gut punch to small markets with many young players where they will lose a year of them when they are so valuable.

 

Really? If no games are played, players still are getting all $ on contracts? Players are still accruing service time?

[rickh150]

In the event of no season the likes of Mookie Betts and Co. will be free agents. Anyone with a full year last will accrue a year this year. It’s a tough loss for any team, but definitely is a gut punch to small markets with many young players where they will lose a year of them when they are so valuable.

 

Really? If no games are played, players still are getting all $ on contracts? Players are still accruing service time?

[MrTPlush]

In the event of no season the likes of Mookie Betts and Co. will be free agents. Anyone with a full year last will accrue a year this year. It’s a tough loss for any team, but definitely is a gut punch to small markets with many young players where they will lose a year of them when they are so valuable.

 

Really? If no games are played, players still are getting all $ on contracts? Players are still accruing service time?

 

They are getting a portion assured. If games are played it is prorated. They will indeed accrue service time regardless. Players will also not be penalized by paltry counting stats of a shortened season. So that means a guy like Hader will still get a huge arby bump even if he only throws 20 innings.

 

Draft could be as low as 5 rounds this year, 2021 as low as 20 rounds.

 

There is a toooooooon that isn’t clear by what has been released. It isn’t clear how service time works if a shortened season happens and a player isn’t on the roster the entire time. Vesting options are still a mystery as are yearly bonuses based on counting stats.

 

There is a lot of conflicting information, but my understanding is in a lost season we may not lose a year of someone like Keston Hiura. We will, however, lose one of the last remaining cheap years of Yelich on the flip side. It’s messy to put it simply.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/nationals/mlb-reportedly-reaches-deal-players-issues-stemming-coronavirus-pandemic

[MrTPlush]

In the event of no season the likes of Mookie Betts and Co. will be free agents. Anyone with a full year last will accrue a year this year. It’s a tough loss for any team, but definitely is a gut punch to small markets with many young players where they will lose a year of them when they are so valuable.

 

Really? If no games are played, players still are getting all $ on contracts? Players are still accruing service time?

 

They are getting a portion assured. If games are played it is prorated. They will indeed accrue service time regardless. Players will also not be penalized by paltry counting stats of a shortened season. So that means a guy like Hader will still get a huge arby bump even if he only throws 20 innings.

 

Draft could be as low as 5 rounds this year, 2021 as low as 20 rounds.

 

There is a toooooooon that isn’t clear by what has been released. It isn’t clear how service time works if a shortened season happens and a player isn’t on the roster the entire time. Vesting options are still a mystery as are yearly bonuses based on counting stats.

 

There is a lot of conflicting information, but my understanding is in a lost season we may not lose a year of someone like Keston Hiura. We will, however, lose one of the last remaining cheap years of Yelich on the flip side. It’s messy to put it simply.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/nationals/mlb-reportedly-reaches-deal-players-issues-stemming-coronavirus-pandemic

[brewcrewdue80]

The above posts, I just seen the MLBTR article on it. Pro-rated is our best hopes at the moment. If we get no season, everyone has their 2019 service time results for 2020. Double whammy on Hader's 1day Super 2 status. Trying to see this in the Brewers perspective, no matter what its all bad for their important players via pre Arb. I guess you would look at the pre Arb service time important players as Woodruff, Lauer, Burnes, Houser, Urias, and Hiura. No season would add a full yr to Woodruff, Lauer. 120days for Urias, 114days for Hiura. Close to full season for Houser. Seems played since game 24 last season Ill just say 157days. Burnes service time last year seems only short 37days of a full year so 135days. Its all nasically adding a year, small rewind.

If the season has any games played, if on the active roster or IL for the games played, its a full 172days added to their service time. Now where it gets interesting is if the player serves time not on active roster. The example was a 100day season and the player was only active for 50. That would mean half of a season being added to service time.

Burnes you could feasibly rewind his clock gaining a year control, but make him a Super 2. Urias maybe sits down long enough and Super 2 worries are completely removed. If you sent Lauer down long enough he could avoid Super 2 future.(40-50% of days) which seems extreme and unlikely. So all in all the Brewers likely lose a full year and gain nothing out of the shortened or lost season.

It will actually be quite a loss on shuttling pitchers if they have no service time on a shortened season. Say a Drew Rasmussen was only up for last 10days of 100day season he'd actually be credited with 17 or 18.

[brewcrewdue80]

The above posts, I just seen the MLBTR article on it. Pro-rated is our best hopes at the moment. If we get no season, everyone has their 2019 service time results for 2020. Double whammy on Hader's 1day Super 2 status. Trying to see this in the Brewers perspective, no matter what its all bad for their important players via pre Arb. I guess you would look at the pre Arb service time important players as Woodruff, Lauer, Burnes, Houser, Urias, and Hiura. No season would add a full yr to Woodruff, Lauer. 120days for Urias, 114days for Hiura. Close to full season for Houser. Seems played since game 24 last season Ill just say 157days. Burnes service time last year seems only short 37days of a full year so 135days. Its all nasically adding a year, small rewind.

If the season has any games played, if on the active roster or IL for the games played, its a full 172days added to their service time. Now where it gets interesting is if the player serves time not on active roster. The example was a 100day season and the player was only active for 50. That would mean half of a season being added to service time.

Burnes you could feasibly rewind his clock gaining a year control, but make him a Super 2. Urias maybe sits down long enough and Super 2 worries are completely removed. If you sent Lauer down long enough he could avoid Super 2 future.(40-50% of days) which seems extreme and unlikely. So all in all the Brewers likely lose a full year and gain nothing out of the shortened or lost season.

It will actually be quite a loss on shuttling pitchers if they have no service time on a shortened season. Say a Drew Rasmussen was only up for last 10days of 100day season he'd actually be credited with 17 or 18.

[brewcrewdue80]

If they really want to cram games in, I'd love to see 7-inning games. They're too long as it is and it's the best excuse to possible to see how it goes.

 

Yes! Turn all day games into double headers. Start every currently scheduled day game 1 hour earlier, shorten it to 7 innings, then immediately play another 7 inning game right after it.

 

Love it. I think they will need rules to keep extra innings short. Start extra innings with the bases loaded or something exciting like that.

 

I suggested a 7 inning Double Header day some time back. In it I suggested ties happening for the standings and just being a 14inning day with 2games. Get this done for division opponents to get as close to a predetermined amount of in division games played.(usually 19 full season) So maybe 10 or 11 on shortened season. Most day games are getaway games, so ideally you're not having teams traveling potentially extremely late to next series due to extra innings.

 

Make it fun and have tied games just have a HR derby faceoff between a teams designated HR hitter for it. Yelich Milw vs Bryant Chi as an example. 10outs highest wins the game. Like a shootout for Hockey orSoccer.

[brewcrewdue80]

If they really want to cram games in, I'd love to see 7-inning games. They're too long as it is and it's the best excuse to possible to see how it goes.

 

Yes! Turn all day games into double headers. Start every currently scheduled day game 1 hour earlier, shorten it to 7 innings, then immediately play another 7 inning game right after it.

 

Love it. I think they will need rules to keep extra innings short. Start extra innings with the bases loaded or something exciting like that.

 

I suggested a 7 inning Double Header day some time back. In it I suggested ties happening for the standings and just being a 14inning day with 2games. Get this done for division opponents to get as close to a predetermined amount of in division games played.(usually 19 full season) So maybe 10 or 11 on shortened season. Most day games are getaway games, so ideally you're not having teams traveling potentially extremely late to next series due to extra innings.

 

Make it fun and have tied games just have a HR derby faceoff between a teams designated HR hitter for it. Yelich Milw vs Bryant Chi as an example. 10outs highest wins the game. Like a shootout for Hockey orSoccer.

[rickh150]

So....it could be possible baseball is cancelled in 2020, followed in some form by a players' strike in 2021 since it is year 5 of the 5 year collective bargaining agreement.

 

In the meantime, even if there are baseball games being played, it likely will happen with no fans in the stands. And even when crowds are allowed at some capacity, there are enough worries about Social get togethers, especially in Milwaukee, to limit the kind of attendance numbers that we are used to seeing. Some simply are not coming to games this year or even next. It isn't worth the risk or anxiety that is associated with it.

 

Overall, it isn't a great picture for baseball.

[rickh150]

So....it could be possible baseball is cancelled in 2020, followed in some form by a players' strike in 2021 since it is year 5 of the 5 year collective bargaining agreement.

 

In the meantime, even if there are baseball games being played, it likely will happen with no fans in the stands. And even when crowds are allowed at some capacity, there are enough worries about Social get togethers, especially in Milwaukee, to limit the kind of attendance numbers that we are used to seeing. Some simply are not coming to games this year or even next. It isn't worth the risk or anxiety that is associated with it.

 

Overall, it isn't a great picture for baseball.

[PeaveyFury]

In the meantime, even if there are baseball games being played, it likely will happen with no fans in the stands.

 

I think calling this "likely" is fairly premature at this point. "Possible," sure, but "likely" isn't a given.

[PeaveyFury]

In the meantime, even if there are baseball games being played, it likely will happen with no fans in the stands.

 

I think calling this "likely" is fairly premature at this point. "Possible," sure, but "likely" isn't a given.

[rickh150]

In the meantime, even if there are baseball games being played, it likely will happen with no fans in the stands.

 

I think calling this "likely" is fairly premature at this point. "Possible," sure, but "likely" isn't a given.

 

Likely isn't a given (100%), by definition, right? The odds to me favor no fans in the stands, at least to begin the season initially. IMO, it is more likely or probable to happen because of all that's happened. It's more than just a possibility.

 

IMO, MLB will not go from 0 to 100mph, none to normal, immediately. There are too many concerns about having so many people together, and this concern will continue for months, of course. It is more probable that not, imo.

 

Also, it is probable there are no fans in seats in NYC all year.

It is getting closer to probable that we see no games in NYC this year, imo.

[rickh150]

In the meantime, even if there are baseball games being played, it likely will happen with no fans in the stands.

 

I think calling this "likely" is fairly premature at this point. "Possible," sure, but "likely" isn't a given.

 

Likely isn't a given (100%), by definition, right? The odds to me favor no fans in the stands, at least to begin the season initially. IMO, it is more likely or probable to happen because of all that's happened. It's more than just a possibility.

 

IMO, MLB will not go from 0 to 100mph, none to normal, immediately. There are too many concerns about having so many people together, and this concern will continue for months, of course. It is more probable that not, imo.

 

Also, it is probable there are no fans in seats in NYC all year.

It is getting closer to probable that we see no games in NYC this year, imo.

[PeaveyFury]

While likely isn't 100%, it certainly is more certain that possibly or probably. I don't think likely or probably are accurate at this point. They won't go 0 to 100, as they'll have some sort of 'spring training-lite' to get arms back up to full speed.

 

I personally think that though it's possible, I don't think it's likely.

[PeaveyFury]

While likely isn't 100%, it certainly is more certain that possibly or probably. I don't think likely or probably are accurate at this point. They won't go 0 to 100, as they'll have some sort of 'spring training-lite' to get arms back up to full speed.

 

I personally think that though it's possible, I don't think it's likely.

[rickh150]

MLB will want to get TV revenue from games sooner than when they will feel comfortable with fans in stands. I think it is logical to play games with these restrictions at first.

 

Also, if one player tests positive in season, which could easily happen, does play immediately stop again? Troubling..

[rickh150]

MLB will want to get TV revenue from games sooner than when they will feel comfortable with fans in stands. I think it is logical to play games with these restrictions at first.

 

Also, if one player tests positive in season, which could easily happen, does play immediately stop again? Troubling..

[owbc]

MLB will want to get TV revenue from games sooner than when they will feel comfortable with fans in stands. I think it is logical to play games with these restrictions at first.

 

Also, if one player tests positive in season, which could easily happen, does play immediately stop again? Troubling..

 

There has to be a rigorous testing regimen for it to work. All players regularly tested, a positive test is an automatic 15-day DL stint and quarantine.

 

Of course even getting that far requires that sports players are not taking tests that could be better used elsewhere...

[owbc]

MLB will want to get TV revenue from games sooner than when they will feel comfortable with fans in stands. I think it is logical to play games with these restrictions at first.

 

Also, if one player tests positive in season, which could easily happen, does play immediately stop again? Troubling..

 

There has to be a rigorous testing regimen for it to work. All players regularly tested, a positive test is an automatic 15-day DL stint and quarantine.

 

Of course even getting that far requires that sports players are not taking tests that could be better used elsewhere...

[LouisEly]

There has to be a rigorous testing regimen for it to work. All players regularly tested, a positive test is an automatic 15-day DL stint and quarantine.

How often are baseball players really that close to each other? Other than the umpire hanging over the catcher's shoulder (good excuse to try automated balls/strikes for a shortened season) and the occasional holding the runner on at 1B, baseball players really aren't getting close to each other much less contacting each other. Maybe shorten the batter's box to create a little more room between the batter and catcher.

 

Automate balls/strikes, space out in the dugout and bullpen, maybe ban holding runners at 1B and instead have a limit of how far a runner can lead off. Fairly low risk for transmission.

[LouisEly]

There has to be a rigorous testing regimen for it to work. All players regularly tested, a positive test is an automatic 15-day DL stint and quarantine.

How often are baseball players really that close to each other? Other than the umpire hanging over the catcher's shoulder (good excuse to try automated balls/strikes for a shortened season) and the occasional holding the runner on at 1B, baseball players really aren't getting close to each other much less contacting each other. Maybe shorten the batter's box to create a little more room between the batter and catcher.

 

Automate balls/strikes, space out in the dugout and bullpen, maybe ban holding runners at 1B and instead have a limit of how far a runner can lead off. Fairly low risk for transmission.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

They sit shoulder to shoulder in the dugout and spit every 3 seconds. Then there is the clubhouse, the hotels, etc. There are a lot of opportunities for transmission that don't involve the actual game.