Packer Offseason Thread: Latest- Packers Sign Kenny Clark- 4 years/$70 Million

[PeaveyFury]

Understood, but the point is that Funchess has actually produced in his NFL career, while Allison has basically never done so.

[CheezWizHed]

PF, do you expect Funch to catch 60+ balls like he did once? Or 30-40 like he did his other 3 healthy seasons?

[CheezWizHed]

PF, do you expect Funch to catch 60+ balls like he did once? Or 30-40 like he did his other 3 healthy seasons?

[PeaveyFury]

PF, do you expect Funch to catch 60+ balls like he did once? Or 30-40 like he did his other 3 healthy seasons?

 

If he's the 3 WR, I think 30-40 is perfectly reasonable. Allison caught 34 last year as the 2/3. The issue is, Allison's 34 was a career high, and even then he didn't even come close to the yardage that Funchess reached in those 3 other seasons you note, as he had 100 less yards than Funchess's lowest season, with 11 more receptions.

 

Allison is a poor receiver. Funchess is better than poor. How much better is yet to be determined, but he will outproduce what Allison has done in Green Bay, of that I have no doubt.

[PeaveyFury]

PF, do you expect Funch to catch 60+ balls like he did once? Or 30-40 like he did his other 3 healthy seasons?

 

If he's the 3 WR, I think 30-40 is perfectly reasonable. Allison caught 34 last year as the 2/3. The issue is, Allison's 34 was a career high, and even then he didn't even come close to the yardage that Funchess reached in those 3 other seasons you note, as he had 100 less yards than Funchess's lowest season, with 11 more receptions.

 

Allison is a poor receiver. Funchess is better than poor. How much better is yet to be determined, but he will outproduce what Allison has done in Green Bay, of that I have no doubt.

[CheezWizHed]

If Allison had stayed healthy in 2018, he would've had much more. He had 20 in 5 games.

 

But we agree that Funch has the higher ceiling (physically he does compare with Lazard much better, but Lazard has better hands). He also has better potential to be in Rodger's dog-house on drops. Depending on the draft, I expect him to be #3 or 4 next year, catch ~35 passes... essentially Allison's role. He is the better WR, but not a drastic improvement. Hence my comparison.

[CheezWizHed]

If Allison had stayed healthy in 2018, he would've had much more. He had 20 in 5 games.

 

But we agree that Funch has the higher ceiling (physically he does compare with Lazard much better, but Lazard has better hands). He also has better potential to be in Rodger's dog-house on drops. Depending on the draft, I expect him to be #3 or 4 next year, catch ~35 passes... essentially Allison's role. He is the better WR, but not a drastic improvement. Hence my comparison.

[pacopete4]

I expect Funchess to take on some of the production of Graham and some of the (lack of) production of Alison. I would think 40-50 balls isn't out of the question to him. I think he could have 5+ TD's as well. I don't think he's a great receiver but I think in an offense with Rodgers, he could be productive.

[pacopete4]

I expect Funchess to take on some of the production of Graham and some of the (lack of) production of Alison. I would think 40-50 balls isn't out of the question to him. I think he could have 5+ TD's as well. I don't think he's a great receiver but I think in an offense with Rodgers, he could be productive.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

He's fine because they have nothing. Someone who had 800 yards in the NFL would have been a godsend last season. If he's 3/4, he's fine.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

He's fine because they have nothing. Someone who had 800 yards in the NFL would have been a godsend last season. If he's 3/4, he's fine.

[jjfanec]

Is Funchess much different than a James Jones type guy? Bigger target. Good on the sidelines which Rodgers loves. Both had issues with drops. Jones also had a few years in the 50's for his catch percentage - playing with much more accurate qbs. Would adding a James Jones type wr to this team be a help? I would say definitely

[jjfanec]

Is Funchess much different than a James Jones type guy? Bigger target. Good on the sidelines which Rodgers loves. Both had issues with drops. Jones also had a few years in the 50's for his catch percentage - playing with much more accurate qbs. Would adding a James Jones type wr to this team be a help? I would say definitely

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Jones had a dropsies problem, but he also simultaneously had incredible hands, if that makes sense. I don't know if DF is the same.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Jones had a dropsies problem, but he also simultaneously had incredible hands, if that makes sense. I don't know if DF is the same.

[GAME05]

Funches' catch rate goes way up when he's on traditional slot routes instead of being asked to line up out wide. And he didn't drop a single pass last year when he was starting from the Slot, compared to a good number of them when he's lined up wide. Indianapolis figured that out with him but then he got hurt. Really it looks more like he should be an awesome slot receiver, but that he's simply never going to be that Davante Adams #1 receiver teams wanted him to be after he was drafted.

[GAME05]

Funches' catch rate goes way up when he's on traditional slot routes instead of being asked to line up out wide. And he didn't drop a single pass last year when he was starting from the Slot, compared to a good number of them when he's lined up wide. Indianapolis figured that out with him but then he got hurt. Really it looks more like he should be an awesome slot receiver, but that he's simply never going to be that Davante Adams #1 receiver teams wanted him to be after he was drafted.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Tyler Ervin back on a 1-year deal, per multiple reports.

 

Nice move IMO. He injected some much-needed life into the return game at the end of last season, and I like his speed, wiggle and pass-catching ability as a 3rd down back and perhaps in the slot.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Tyler Ervin back on a 1-year deal, per multiple reports.

 

Nice move IMO. He injected some much-needed life into the return game at the end of last season, and I like his speed, wiggle and pass-catching ability as a 3rd down back and perhaps in the slot.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Is Funchess much different than a James Jones type guy? Bigger target. Good on the sidelines which Rodgers loves. Both had issues with drops. Jones also had a few years in the 50's for his catch percentage - playing with much more accurate qbs. Would adding a James Jones type wr to this team be a help? I would say definitely

 

James Jones played at 6'1", 208 pounds. Funchess is 6'4", 225 pounds. Jones played tough, was strong and got the most out of his size, but they are definitely two very different types of receivers. Funchess was supposed to be more of a Plaxico Burress/Brandon Marshall-type.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Is Funchess much different than a James Jones type guy? Bigger target. Good on the sidelines which Rodgers loves. Both had issues with drops. Jones also had a few years in the 50's for his catch percentage - playing with much more accurate qbs. Would adding a James Jones type wr to this team be a help? I would say definitely

 

James Jones played at 6'1", 208 pounds. Funchess is 6'4", 225 pounds. Jones played tough, was strong and got the most out of his size, but they are definitely two very different types of receivers. Funchess was supposed to be more of a Plaxico Burress/Brandon Marshall-type.

[CheezWizHed]

Funches' catch rate goes way up when he's on traditional slot routes instead of being asked to line up out wide. And he didn't drop a single pass last year when he was starting from the Slot, compared to a good number of them when he's lined up wide. Indianapolis figured that out with him but then he got hurt. Really it looks more like he should be an awesome slot receiver, but that he's simply never going to be that Davante Adams #1 receiver teams wanted him to be after he was drafted.

 

Last year means nothing. He had 3 catches. But I'm curious where you got this info? How does your theory compare in 2018?

 

As to JJ, "good hands, with drop problems" - His early career was plagued by concentration issues, but he greatly improved that later on when he had his best seasons. His worst seasons where the ones that found him with reduced playing time often because of it.

 

As for signing Funch, I'm good with it. He fits the mold of one of my previous posts where we bring in a FA vet as part of the solution, then draft to cover - a 2-fold way to fix a problem. At worst, we have a player similar to Allison (who has been useful, just not last year), but with more upside to his game.

[CheezWizHed]

Funches' catch rate goes way up when he's on traditional slot routes instead of being asked to line up out wide. And he didn't drop a single pass last year when he was starting from the Slot, compared to a good number of them when he's lined up wide. Indianapolis figured that out with him but then he got hurt. Really it looks more like he should be an awesome slot receiver, but that he's simply never going to be that Davante Adams #1 receiver teams wanted him to be after he was drafted.

 

Last year means nothing. He had 3 catches. But I'm curious where you got this info? How does your theory compare in 2018?

 

As to JJ, "good hands, with drop problems" - His early career was plagued by concentration issues, but he greatly improved that later on when he had his best seasons. His worst seasons where the ones that found him with reduced playing time often because of it.

 

As for signing Funch, I'm good with it. He fits the mold of one of my previous posts where we bring in a FA vet as part of the solution, then draft to cover - a 2-fold way to fix a problem. At worst, we have a player similar to Allison (who has been useful, just not last year), but with more upside to his game.

[nodakfan17]

The fact that we haven’t seen any details of the Funchess signing is probably good news. Agents tend to leak the numbers when they are flattering.

[nodakfan17]

The fact that we haven’t seen any details of the Funchess signing is probably good news. Agents tend to leak the numbers when they are flattering.