Trevor Story

[ewitkows]

If the Rockies go into full rebuild mode and trade Arenado then you have to think Story would also be available. His home road split are pretty big but he'd be light years better than anyone we'd run out there at either SS or 3B. Would Burnes + be enough to get the party started?

[bill hAll Star]

If the Rockies go into full rebuild mode and trade Arenado then you have to think Story would also be available. His home road split are pretty big but he'd be light years better than anyone we'd run out there at either SS or 3B. Would Burnes + be enough to get the party started?

 

I don't think so.

 

Coors numbers be damned, even if he posts his .760 road OPS full-time with excellent defense at shortstop, it'll require more than that.

 

He's basically prime Troy Tulowitzki with 2 years of control left. That's relatively valuable.

[long ball]

Trevor Story is phenomenal and I'm not sure the Brewers match up well to trade for a player that good given the current state of the farm system.

 

Rockies would probably have to be enamored with Burnes and/or Peralta to match up on a trade for Story.

[wildcat2237]

I would think the Brewers would need to include both Turang and Ethan Small to even get talks going.

 

However, I am not sure a deal headlined by those two would get it done.

[jerichoholicninja]

Hampson is probably the guy to be looking at. He's blocked by Story. Was a top prospect and hasn't quite lived up to it in a small sample. Lots more control and would probably cost less.

[JohnBriggs12]

I think it would take Urias, Peralta, Feliciano, and Small and that's only if the Rockies are truly looking to move him. Another somewhat viable proposal would be Hiura, Burnes, Turang and Small.

[ewitkows]

If his Coors numbers were his away numbers then he'd be worth that.

[homer]

If his Coors numbers were his away numbers then he'd be worth that.

 

Trevor Story away from Coors is Nick Ahmed with a little better defense.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Trevor would be an interesting get. High launch angle, strikeouts. League average in walks. Almost a full 10% better than league avg on hard hit percentage. 30-30 player with batting 290ish last 3 years.

 

Yes, a lot is aided by Coors Field. But he also plays elite defense.

Will be a free agent after his 18.5 mil salary this year.

 

Vs Brewers he has 20 games. 9 homers and a 1.015 ops.

 

Would he be able to have similar stats playing many games at AmFam? He’d be a fun one to tap some potential there.

[TURBO]

Trade Burnes, who do we replace him with?

 

People who want to trade Burnes and or Woodruff, what would your plans be for the rotation?

 

We finally have some homegrown cheap talent and people want to trade them off?

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Trade Burnes, who do we replace him with?

 

People who want to trade Burnes and or Woodruff, what would your plans be for the rotation?

 

We finally have some homegrown cheap talent and people want to trade them off?

 

Burnes should be a hard pass. Elite pitching potential with many years of control. It’s a non conversation in my opinion for one year of story.

[Simba2020]

We are not trading for Trevor Story. The cost in player capital would be significant plus he's a free agent after the year. It would cost more money than we could afford to keep him around so he would basically turn into a rental. Unless you are ok with completely blowing up the farm system, I just don't see a way this would work. Also not sure we can afford to take on Story's salary unless you trade away some salary.

[sveumrules]

I think it would take Urias, Peralta, Feliciano, and Small and that's only if the Rockies are truly looking to move him. Another somewhat viable proposal would be Hiura, Burnes, Turang and Small.

 

These proposals are way too much. Hiura, Burnes, Turang & Small is like a Jose Ramirez package.

 

Story is projected at 4 WAR & is on a one year 18.5 million contract before hitting free agency. That is around 15-20 million in surplus value. Maybe like Turang as a headliner then some filler.

[nate82]

I think it would take Urias, Peralta, Feliciano, and Small and that's only if the Rockies are truly looking to move him. Another somewhat viable proposal would be Hiura, Burnes, Turang and Small.

 

These proposals are way too much. Hiura, Burnes, Turang & Small is like a Jose Ramirez package.

 

Story is projected at 4 WAR & is on a one year 18.5 million contract before hitting free agency. That is around 15-20 million in surplus value. Maybe like Turang as a headliner then some filler.

 

That is what I was thinking, something like Turang, Arcia, Small, and a lottery ticket like Ward for Story. I think that would be more than fair for Story.

 

I wouldn't do the trade as I don't think Story is worth that and I believe his value overly inflated a bit.

[wibadgers23]

Yeah I’d rather use that sort of trade capital to acquire Jose Ramirez and plus we’d never trade for that salary anyway.

[MadThinker88]

Yeah I’d rather use that sort of trade capital to acquire Jose Ramirez and plus we’d never trade for that salary anyway.

 

First, it sounds like Story is no longer on the market..

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/02/gm-jeff-bridich-trevor-story-expected-to-begin-season-with-rockies.html

 

Second, while Turang is very good prospect in his own right, his value in trade for JRam at this point is minimal due to the steps CLE has taken since late August 2020. In that time, CLE has acquired via different trades Gabriel Arias (SS, from SDP), Andres Gimenez & Amed Rosario (SS/ INF from NYMets) to go along with its own top SS prospects Tyler Freeman (on 3 top 100 lists, some ahead & some behind Turang) & Brayan Rocchio (1 top 100 list with Keith Law).

 

With 5 SS guys already to sort thru (along with other top prospects for other infield spots), adding a 6th SS option when CLE has other needs could be labeled as mis-guided.

[markedman5]

Stearns has said on multiple occasions he wants” young controllable talent”

 

That isn’t Story.

[monty57]

If the Rockies go into full rebuild mode and trade Arenado then you have to think Story would also be available. His home road split are pretty big but he'd be light years better than anyone we'd run out there at either SS or 3B. Would Burnes + be enough to get the party started?

 

I think that four years of Burnes is worth a heck of a lot more than one year of Trevor Story just by himself. Plus, trading for an expensive player in his final year means you're "going for it" in that year. You don't "go for it" by trading away your ace. A good argument could be made that the Brewers would be better in 2021 without making this trade, and they would absolutely be better in 2022-2024.

 

I don't know that I'd want to trade a bunch of prospects for Story for one year/$18.5M, as we already have Urias and Arcia who are better off at SS than 3B, and Story would probably insist on playing SS in his walk year. That would mean that we'd have spent all the money we have and Urias/Arcia would be our third basemen with Vogelbach at first. I'd rather find a third baseman and have Urias/Arcia at SS.

 

Just to play the game, let's assume that Story would play third base. I'd try to build a trade around Urias. He still has value and the Rockies could get someone who is "MLB ready," while including him in the trade should allow us to hold on to Turang and Mitchell. This would put Story at 3B, Arcia at SS, Hiura at 2B and Vogelbach at 1B. Next offseason we will be wondering how we're going to find a third baseman, and we'd have to hope that Turang will be ready by the time Arcia is gone after 2023, but it would make us better in 2021 when the Central is down.

[adambr2]

Stearns has said on multiple occasions he wants” young controllable talent”

 

That isn’t Story.

 

He has also on multiple occasions actually acquired non-controllable talent, including Moose, Pomeranz, Schoop, Grandal, etc.

 

Every GM in baseball wants "young, controllable talent." Why wouldn't you? They're the most valuable commodity in the game. That certainly doesn't mean he isn't open to other team-building avenues, and his past actions certainly reflect that.

 

Story is actually a really good trade target if you're looking to go big on 2021. The lack of control is a bummer but it also makes his cost reasonable. Somebody like Burnes is way too much but something like Turang+Arcia probably makes sense.

[Austin Tatious]

Yeah I was about to say that Burnes is a non-starter here. He’s a top of the rotation type of talent and not the kind of guy you move in this deal. His peripherals demonstrate a sky high upside. He’d be moved more for multiple high ceiling prospects but I’d expect him to just stay. If any team knows how hard it is to find a starter like Burnes, it’s your Milwaukee Brewers.

 

It literally doesn’t matter what he did in 2019. It’s just noise from his development. This is about what he has the ability to become based on the here and now and the good likelihood of it happening barring injury in view of his high level stuff. Go where the hockey puck is going to be not where it was.

[Warning Track Power]

Story is actually a really good trade target if you're looking to go big on 2021. The lack of control is a bummer but it also makes his cost reasonable. Somebody like Burnes is way too much but something like Turang+Arcia probably makes sense.

If Arcia and Turang gets it done, you make this trade immediately and start negotiations on a long term deal with Story as soon as the trade is official. Unfortunately, I think Arcia has little trade value and it would take one of Urias, Small or Ashby + Turang + lottery ticket to get the trade done.

 

In the above scenario, I am actually hoping to hang on to Urias, and deal Small or Ashby as Story at SS allows you to have a non-traditional corner 3B (no power) with Urias. Additionally, if you deal Urias, the Brewers are stuck with the same issue at 3B and 1B.

[Austin Tatious]

Good points. I just don’t see Story as having the profile of what we’d pursue. But maybe I am wrong. I didn’t see us making the deal for Grandal either.

[PeaveyFury]

 

He has also on multiple occasions actually acquired non-controllable talent, including Moose, Pomeranz, Schoop, Grandal, etc.

 

 

It IS worth noting, though, that other than Grandal, those guys have been in-season acquisitions.

[Warning Track Power]

Would Hiura for Story make sense now?

 

I think it would but I would make it contingent on the possibility of the Brewers being given a window to negotiate an extension with Story.

[wallus]

Would Hiura for Story make sense now?

 

I think it would but I would make it contingent on the possibility of the Brewers being given a window to negotiate an extension with Story.

 

Only way I would do that trade is if you extended Story immediately.