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Unbelievable that anyone could possibly complain about having a guy with Morrison's track record as pure minor league depth. If Smoak and/or Braun gets injured at some point during the season, who do you want filling his spot on the roster and getting starts at 1B, David Freitas??
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Lomo doesn't have a track record of being the best clubhouse guy. It's like the brewers are forgetting what made them special. Thames for Lomo is a step back in terms of personality. Maybe he never makes it to Miller Park. Hope this is the case.
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Kudos to Uwbadgers442 who told us the Brewers wanted to sign Smoak and Morrison way back on November 28th.

 

Here are the posts: Link #1 and Link #2.

 

I doubted the report at the time, and it turns out I was very much wrong.

 

Thank you for this. I love going back and reading people openly ridicule something someone says only to see it happen 6 weeks later.

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Nope. More truth is going to come out and many, many more teams will be indicted. So there is going to be many who look foolish after the fact.

 

So why do you not like LoMo for calling out other teams?

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I don’t like him for not keeping quiet until all of the truth comes out.

 

What? How does this track at all? In the other thread you’re ripping Fiers for not speaking out sooner, when it was happening, but now you’d rather have LoMo keep his mouth shut until “all of the truth comes out” somehow?

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I don’t like him for not keeping quiet until all of the truth comes out.

 

What? How does this track at all? In the other thread you’re ripping Fiers for not speaking out sooner, when it was happening, but now you’d rather have LoMo keep his mouth shut until “all of the truth comes out” somehow?

 

Fiers is a tool who, if he truly felt bad, should have spoken up immediately after the 2017 season, not waiting 2 years to say anything. And furthermore, if he feels that awful and that this was that egregious, he’d give back his WS ring and WS share.......but we’ll wait for that, won’t we. Clear things up? Honestly, every team has done this to some extent. The league wanted to make the Astros the whipping boy, because Fiers spoke up.

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"Every team has done this to some extent" is bogus IMO. That's like comparing the boy stealing the candy bar from the convenience store to the man holding the bank teller at gunpoint. Yeah, every team has used pine tar and stolen a sign when a guy was tipping pitches. Not every team had a sophisticated system of cameras and decoding specifically designed for the purpose of stealing signs. (Stealing signs by traditional means isn't against the rules, BTW. Stealing signs using digital means is.)
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"Every team has done this to some extent" is bogus IMO. That's like comparing the boy stealing the candy bar from the convenience store to the man holding the bank teller at gunpoint. Yeah, every team has used pine tar and stolen a sign when a guy was tipping pitches. Not every team had a sophisticated system of cameras and decoding specifically designed for the purpose of stealing signs. (Stealing signs by traditional means isn't against the rules, BTW. Stealing signs using digital means is.)

 

Just wait. Every team had something digital to some extent. It’s not just solely limited to the Astros, Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers, Indians and so on.

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Fiers probably struggled for a long time with this. Yes, he should have come forward sooner, but we don't know the reasons/fears which led to him not doing so as soon as he was off that team. It would be disingenuous of us to assume that we do unless we've personally been through something similar and, even then, we can't know for sure - so why assume (because that's precisely what it is) the worst about him?

 

He had nothing to gain from telling the truth other than peace of mind, and much to lose - the respect of some teammates who might feel "what goes on in the locker room, stays in the locker room". Even a person of good conscience can be caught in an ethical dilemma - to tell the truth or to keep quiet in order to protect those who stand beside you daily, out of fear or a misguided sense of duty/loyalty. What about the soldier who witnesses some despicable act committed by a member of their platoon in a time of war? Should they be despised for not coming forward immediately, risking the wrath of others in their platoon whom they depend upon daily? Or perhaps a police officer who witnesses a crime committed by another officer? Or should they instead be praised for finally overcoming their fears, real or imagined, and coming forward to expose this act? Yeah, those were much more extreme examples, but the principle is the same. To despise Fiers in this is to condemn every single person who reports wrongdoing, if they don't do so immediately - and such condemnation only serves to further protect those doing wrong, by making it even harder on those people if they think about coming forward later.

 

"Every team has done this to some extent" is bogus IMO.

 

I'm tempted to agree. There is zero evidence to support this. But we hear this a lot in today's society. As children, we're taught (hopefully) that "well, everyone else is doing it" is not a valid excuse. And, let's be honest, when we used that excuse as children it was rarely (if ever) actually true - we'd seen one or two others do it and get away with it, so we think that we can too then, when caught, we try to justify (or, at least, minimize) it with an excuse like that.

 

Let's just wait and see what comes out of this in terms of other teams, and not make unsupported assumptions or pillory those who expose these deeds - in any walk of life...

 

Edit: Wait, wasn't this a thread about Logan Morrison? I apologize for being a part of the derailment by responding to it and won't comment again.

"Don't force him to choose between Chris Smalling and Phil Jones. It's like asking someone to choose between which STD to contract!"
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Fiers probably struggled for a long time with this. Yes, he should have come forward sooner, but we don't know the reasons/fears which led to him not doing so as soon as he was off that team. It would be disingenuous of us to assume that we do unless we've personally been through something similar and, even then, we can't know for sure - so why assume (because that's precisely what it is) the worst about him?

 

He had nothing to gain from telling the truth other than peace of mind, and much to lose - the respect of some teammates who might feel "what goes on in the locker room, stays in the locker room". Even a person of good conscience can be caught in an ethical dilemma - to tell the truth or to keep quiet in order to protect those who stand beside you daily, out of fear or a misguided sense of duty/loyalty. What about the soldier who witnesses some despicable act committed by a member of their platoon in a time of war? Should they be despised for not coming forward immediately, risking the wrath of others in their platoon whom they depend upon daily? Or perhaps a police officer who witnesses a crime committed by another officer? Or should they instead be praised for finally overcoming their fears, real or imagined, and coming forward to expose this act? Yeah, those were much more extreme examples, but the principle is the same. To despise Fiers in this is to condemn every single person who reports wrongdoing, if they don't do so immediately - and such condemnation only serves to further protect those doing wrong, by making it even harder on those people if they think about coming forward later.

 

"Every team has done this to some extent" is bogus IMO.

 

I'm tempted to agree. There is zero evidence to support this. But we hear this a lot in today's society. As children, we're taught (hopefully) that "well, everyone else is doing it" is not a valid excuse. And, let's be honest, when we used that excuse as children it was rarely (if ever) actually true - we'd seen one or two others do it and get away with it, so we think that we can too then, when caught, we try to justify (or, at least, minimize) it with an excuse like that.

 

Let's just wait and see what comes out of this in terms of other teams, and not make unsupported assumptions or pillory those who expose these deeds - in any walk of life...

 

Edit: Wait, wasn't this a thread about Logan Morrison? I apologize for being a part of the derailment by responding to it and won't comment again.

 

Fiers was warning his teammates when he was with the Tigers the following season. This wasn't coming out of the blue or anything. In a sense, it's like some of the stuff we've seen in headlines.

 

"Hey, you need to be on your guard around X because of Y."

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