NFC Divisonal Playoffs: Seahawks @ Packers Sunday, Jan 12th, 5:40PM

[homer]

Favre retired, team moved on, then Favre changed his mind. Team should have traded him right there but they hemmed and hawed about what to do and tried to convince the guy not to come back. That was on GB not Favre. I'm not blaming a guy for deciding he still wants to play. What I blame Favre for is finagling his way to an NFC North team just to stick it to Thompson. So both sides were at fault.

[AKCheesehead]

Favre retired, team moved on, then Favre changed his mind. Team should have traded him right there but they hemmed and hawed about what to do and tried to convince the guy not to come back. That was on GB not Favre. I'm not blaming a guy for deciding he still wants to play. What I blame Favre for is finagling his way to an NFC North team just to stick it to Thompson. So both sides were at fault.

 

I sorta don’t even blame him that either because it took a

Hell of a lot of guts. Favre was as bad ass as they get.

[AKCheesehead]

Favre retired, team moved on, then Favre changed his mind. Team should have traded him right there but they hemmed and hawed about what to do and tried to convince the guy not to come back. That was on GB not Favre. I'm not blaming a guy for deciding he still wants to play. What I blame Favre for is finagling his way to an NFC North team just to stick it to Thompson. So both sides were at fault.

 

I sorta don’t even blame him that either because it took a

Hell of a lot of guts. Favre was as bad ass as they get.

[adambr2]

The leadership at Lambeau lacked quite a bit during that time and it allowed the situation to even have legs. It never had to play out the way that it did. It started with terrible communication on all fronts.

 

There is no way it could have not had legs. There was no way it was going to be pretty. Based on Favre's choice, here were the Packers' options:

 

1) Welcome Favre back with open arms. Consequence: Almost assuredly have to trade away a future HOF QB early in his career for another year or two of an aging legend.

 

2) Have a QB camp competition. Consequence: Enormous locker room distraction all year no matter who wins. Likely forced to trade the loser anyway.

 

3) Grant Favre his outright release. Consequence: he goes straight to Minnesota. Also, we get nothing for Favre (we used the pick we acquired for him to trade up and draft Clay Matthews who was an essential part of our Super Bowl team in 2010-11).

 

4) Trade Favre. The consequence was a split fan base, which would have likely happened under any of these scenarios anyway.

 

Could the Packers have said things, done things differently? Maybe a little bit? But the larger drama, the split of the fanbase, it just wasn't avoidable doing something like this. Ultimately the decision was correct and the fallout was inevitable.

[adambr2]

The leadership at Lambeau lacked quite a bit during that time and it allowed the situation to even have legs. It never had to play out the way that it did. It started with terrible communication on all fronts.

 

There is no way it could have not had legs. There was no way it was going to be pretty. Based on Favre's choice, here were the Packers' options:

 

1) Welcome Favre back with open arms. Consequence: Almost assuredly have to trade away a future HOF QB early in his career for another year or two of an aging legend.

 

2) Have a QB camp competition. Consequence: Enormous locker room distraction all year no matter who wins. Likely forced to trade the loser anyway.

 

3) Grant Favre his outright release. Consequence: he goes straight to Minnesota. Also, we get nothing for Favre (we used the pick we acquired for him to trade up and draft Clay Matthews who was an essential part of our Super Bowl team in 2010-11).

 

4) Trade Favre. The consequence was a split fan base, which would have likely happened under any of these scenarios anyway.

 

Could the Packers have said things, done things differently? Maybe a little bit? But the larger drama, the split of the fanbase, it just wasn't avoidable doing something like this. Ultimately the decision was correct and the fallout was inevitable.

[OldHeidelberg]

I feel like with what we have learned in bits and pieces over the years since then that the real driver of the whole thing was the presence of Rodgers. The Packers were far closer to going with him than any of us would have believed at the time and Favre knew it and also didn't get along with Rodgers, he wasn't staying around to get benched at the first sign of trouble. It wasn't just that Rodgers had passed him, I am sure Rodgers was at the play me or trade me point as well. All that and egos created a mess no one could get out of, especially with Favre wanting to go to the Vikes.

[OldHeidelberg]

I feel like with what we have learned in bits and pieces over the years since then that the real driver of the whole thing was the presence of Rodgers. The Packers were far closer to going with him than any of us would have believed at the time and Favre knew it and also didn't get along with Rodgers, he wasn't staying around to get benched at the first sign of trouble. It wasn't just that Rodgers had passed him, I am sure Rodgers was at the play me or trade me point as well. All that and egos created a mess no one could get out of, especially with Favre wanting to go to the Vikes.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

My only issue with the Packers at the time was being cupcakes about where he could play. If you don't want him cut him loose. Don't try to keep him out of the division like some NCAA team. You knew damn well he'd end up in the division after that.

 

I also think Favre knew 100% he'd play again at that teary news conference. And I blame the Packers and Mike Sherman for putting Favre in a position in which he was the puppet master of the franchise. They let him blossom into the little diva he became.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

My only issue with the Packers at the time was being cupcakes about where he could play. If you don't want him cut him loose. Don't try to keep him out of the division like some NCAA team. You knew damn well he'd end up in the division after that.

 

I also think Favre knew 100% he'd play again at that teary news conference. And I blame the Packers and Mike Sherman for putting Favre in a position in which he was the puppet master of the franchise. They let him blossom into the little diva he became.

[brewcrewdue80]

Speaking of Carroll, I had a thought while reading this blurb from ESPN’s preview of tomorrow’s game:

 

Officiating nugget: Referee Clete Blakeman's regular-season crew threw the second-fewest flags per game (13.8, one flag more than the Vinovich crew). His regular-season crew threw the NFL's fewest number of flags for defensive holding, illegal contact and pass interference (29).

 

Pete Carroll in midweek practice to his secondary: “We’re gonna knife #17 in the kidneys until we get a flag, then we’re going to do it some more.”

 

So, what you're saying is we're going to see at least 7 flags thrown on these infractions tomorrow.

[nodakfan17]

The analysts on CBS Sports picked Seattle by a 4:1 margin. Pete Prisco was the only one to pick Green Bay and he’s always high on the Packers. I’m picking Seattle too, but I think that’s just my brain’s way of managing my expectations. In reality, I think it’s a toss up.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The analysts on CBS Sports picked Seattle by a 4:1 margin. Pete Prisco was the only one to pick Green Bay and he’s always high on the Packers. I’m picking Seattle too, but I think that’s just my brain’s way of managing my expectations. In reality, I think it’s a toss up.

 

Well, you've been picking against the Packers all season. I'd think I'd be scared if you predicted a Packers win.

[nodakfan17]

The analysts on CBS Sports picked Seattle by a 4:1 margin. Pete Prisco was the only one to pick Green Bay and he’s always high on the Packers. I’m picking Seattle too, but I think that’s just my brain’s way of managing my expectations. In reality, I think it’s a toss up.

 

Well, you've been picking against the Packers all season. I'd think I'd be scared if you predicted a Packers win.

Ha. Yeah, A decade’s worth of letdowns has conditioned me to assume something bad will happen to the Packers. I think my brain has developed this as a response to protect me from further disappointment (thanks, brain!).

[PinaMadness]

So this happened 12 years ago today.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrj-XafZZB8

[OldHeidelberg]

The analysts on CBS Sports picked Seattle by a 4:1 margin. Pete Prisco was the only one to pick Green Bay and he’s always high on the Packers. I’m picking Seattle too, but I think that’s just my brain’s way of managing my expectations. In reality, I think it’s a toss up.

 

I think now that it's close to happening everyone is starting to expect that a 3rd Niner/Seahawks matchup is destiny after the 2 regular season down to the wire games. But remember how destiny worked out for us in the r-e-l-a-x season and the season the Vikes lost on the last play to get us in. I think we win today.

[stalton]

The Pike Place Market in Seattle has a bet with the Milwaukee Publoc Market and the loser has to give over regional food. I dont know who gets to get the food exactly but I hope I can get some smoked salmon and coffee!

[OldSchoolSnapper]

This game is giving me the opposite feeling of a normal big Packers game, where my heart usually tells me they'll win but my head looks at stats and figures they'll lose. Everything I look at tells me the Packers should win, but I can't shake this feeling that after the way SF-SEA played each other this year, we're destined for a 3rd matchup between those two. Everything about the matchup I like for the Packers, but I can't get over this gut feeling Wilson will be magical and push them through.

[brewcrewdue80]

Going to make a bold statement Cotton

Packers win 31-16. Opening drive TD. Defense gets to Wilson for 4sacks. Jaire Alexander 2Ints.

[OldHeidelberg]

Bulaga added to injury report with illness. They haven't ruled him out.

[nodakfan17]

Bulaga added to injury report with illness. They haven't ruled him out.

Uhhh ... They avoid injuries all season only to be done in by the flu

[PinaMadness]

Bulaga added to injury report with illness. They haven't ruled him out.

Uhhh ... They avoid injuries all season only to be done in by the flu

If only there was some way to protect yourself from contracting the flu. Like a shot or something.

[homer]

Bulaga added to injury report with illness. They haven't ruled him out.

Uhhh ... They avoid injuries all season only to be done in by the flu

If only there was some way to protect yourself from contracting the flu.

 

If you're referring to the shot it doesn't protect against every strain of the disease.

[HarveysWBs]

And considering the recent coining of the phrase “wash your hands, wash your butt,” it doesn’t sound like influenza at all. It may be intestinal, and not subject to vaccination. Fluids and rest.

 

The problem is Alex Light was also added to the list with illness, meaning Packers are looking perilously thin at tackle. This is a big deal.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Yeah it definitely won't prevent you from getting the flu. It's just an incredibly easy way to drastically reduce your odds. Unless they get the vaccine completely wrong like they did last year or the year before.

 

Packers can't really use an OL excuse though, because the SEA group is a skeleton crew.

[HarveysWBs]

Yeah it definitely won't prevent you from getting the flu. It's just an incredibly easy way to drastically reduce your odds. Unless they get the vaccine completely wrong like they did last year or the year before.

 

Packers can't really use an OL excuse though, because the SEA group is a skeleton crew.

 

I don’t want to see Clowney at even 60% health vs. a third-string tackle. I’m fairly alarmed here.